On today’s episode of “Can You Fix Her?”

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with a name like Tannah, i bet she ain’t too worried about how old she’ll look or how saggin that hooha is later in life. Welcome to the stage Tannah! We call her miss Roast Beef here at Danny’s!
I read that as "Denny's" 3 straight times before I finally saw Danny's instead. Denney's wasn't computing because I was wondering about Grand Slam, Super Slam, etc
 

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My wife is on a committee at church regarding the children’s and preschool ministry. One of the ladies argued that men should not be allowed to work in those areas in order to protect children from predators. My wife replied, “Have you seen the news lately? I am more worried about some of these women taking advantage of kids.”
 

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It really bothers me when people excuse women raping underage boys because "the boy wanted it". Any male teacher that has consensual sex with a 14 or 15 year old girl would have people wanting to castrate him before execution. A woman does it and it's no big deal. It's the same thing. The male student is being seduced and taken advantage of just like a female student would be. And the "dude can brag to his friends now" thought process is so juvenile and simpleminded. Maybe not all boys, but some, could have mental repercussions from the experience, just like a girl might. Statutory rape is statutory rape, no matter who does it. The female abuser should be treated just like the male abuser. Ok, I'm off my soapbox now.
 

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It really bothers me when people excuse women raping underage boys because "the boy wanted it". Any male teacher that has consensual sex with a 14 or 15 year old girl would have people wanting to castrate him before execution. A woman does it and it's no big deal. It's the same thing. The male student is being seduced and taken advantage of just like a female student would be. And the "dude can brag to his friends now" thought process is so juvenile and simpleminded. Maybe not all boys, but some, could have mental repercussions from the experience, just like a girl might. Statutory rape is statutory rape, no matter who does it. The female abuser should be treated just like the male abuser. Ok, I'm off my soapbox now.
I'm curious of the numbers of a boys vs girls in statutory rape cases. How many males have mental repercussions? Woman should go to jail regardless.
 
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I'm curious of the numbers of a boys vs girls in statutory rape cases. How many males have mental repercussions? Woman should go to jail regardless.
A quick Google search states that 95% of statutory rape cases are female victims, but male victims are frequently underrepresented due to lower reporting rates. I don't think it's a secret that the vast majority of sexual predators are male. However, some are female, and they should be treated the same. There is this seemingly celebratory attitude when a female teacher commits statutory rape with an underage male student, like the student should be happy he was raped. That's the part that bothers me.
 

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A quick Google search states that 95% of statutory rape cases are female victims, but male victims are frequently underrepresented due to lower reporting rates. I don't think it's a secret that the vast majority of sexual predators are male. However, some are female, and they should be treated the same. There is this seemingly celebratory attitude when a female teacher commits statutory rape with an underage male student, like the student should be happy he was raped. That's the part that bothers me.
Yeah, that celebratory attitude has been a predominant theme in SPS threads about statutory rape over the last decade or so.

Typing that sentence made me realize that there have been lot more threads on here about statutory rape than I would think I would see.
 

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My 15 year old self would have had no issues whatsoever w/ a 25 year old lass wanting to teach me the ways of the world. I however can't imagine being the 25'ish year old husband of a woman that you've had 3 kids with so far and knowing that she was turning to a 15 year old instead of 25 year old me for comfort.................
 

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Yeah, that celebratory attitude has been a predominant theme in SPS threads about statutory rape over the last decade or so.

Typing that sentence made me realize that there have been lot more threads on here about statutory rape than I would think I would see.
I hope you realize that 98% of us when we were 15 would have jumped all over a 25 year old attractive woman who was willing to let us dip our pen in the company ink.
 

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It really bothers me when people excuse women raping underage boys because "the boy wanted it". Any male teacher that has consensual sex with a 14 or 15 year old girl would have people wanting to castrate him before execution. A woman does it and it's no big deal. It's the same thing. The male student is being seduced and taken advantage of just like a female student would be. And the "dude can brag to his friends now" thought process is so juvenile and simpleminded. Maybe not all boys, but some, could have mental repercussions from the experience, just like a girl might. Statutory rape is statutory rape, no matter who does it. The female abuser should be treated just like the male abuser. Ok, I'm off my soapbox now.
It's a joke. But boys tend to prefer having sexual experiences than girls at a younger age and the vast majority of teenage boys who have sex with a woman older than they are don't have negative emotional consequences in life. I'm not suggesting that laws change because of this but boys and girls, women and men are different. And we are noticing that a lot more horny, somewhat older women, especially teachers, are getting caught having sex with teen boys. Would a 15-year-old girl seducing a 15-year-old boy be more acceptable?
 

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I hope you realize that 98% of us when we were 15 would have jumped all over a 25 year old attractive woman who was willing to let us dip our pen in the company ink.
Ok sure.
There are a ton of things we would have done at 15 if we could have. That is why there is an age of consent- it helps keep dummies from doing dummy things until they are older and possibly mentally developed enough to understand why it is dumb to do those dummy things.

A lot of 15 year old girls would jump all over a 25 year old attractive man...but that doesnt mean such a thing should be allowed or celebrated.

It is mind boggling that there are people who celebrate, excuse, or minimize statutory rape. Like really now- how are we not all in agreement that it is simply wrong?



If someone celebrates/excuses/minimizes statutory rape by pointing out that 'its a boy so no harm done' or 'I would have done the same!', but is also wrapped up in the manufactured social outrage over fears of 'indoctrinating the children'...well I wish them luck in trying to square that circle.
That logical disconnect is on another level. I am guessing they dont even recognize the obviously conflicting positions.
Protecting our children by selectively celebrating or excusing some be taken advantage of is wild.
 

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And we are noticing that a lot more horny, somewhat older women, especially teachers, are getting caught having sex with teen boys.
Would a 15-year-old girl seducing a 15-year-old boy be more acceptable?
Would a 15yo girl seducing a 15yo boy be more acceptable than a 25yo woman(possibly a teacher, so a trusted adult at that) seducing a 15yo boy?


 

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I hope you realize that 98% of us when we were 15 would have jumped all over a 25 year old attractive woman who was willing to let us dip our pen in the company ink.
98% might be a bit high. But certainly a lot would. And, no one wants to say it, but some of the girls who are statutory raped by 25-year old men are willing participants and don't mind it at all too. Still, there has to be a line where it's rape. Apparently that's 16-years old, or if it's a teacher-student relationship. I personally think it should be 18, or within 2 years in age.
 
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Ok sure.
There are a ton of things we would have done at 15 if we could have. That is why there is an age of consent- it helps keep dummies from doing dummy things until they are older and possibly mentally developed enough to understand why it is dumb to do those dummy things.

A lot of 15 year old girls would jump all over a 25 year old attractive man...but that doesnt mean such a thing should be allowed or celebrated.

It is mind boggling that there are people who celebrate, excuse, or minimize statutory rape. Like really now- how are we not all in agreement that it is simply wrong?



If someone celebrates/excuses/minimizes statutory rape by pointing out that 'its a boy so no harm done' or 'I would have done the same!', but is also wrapped up in the manufactured social outrage over fears of 'indoctrinating the children'...well I wish them luck in trying to square that circle.
That logical disconnect is on another level. I am guessing they dont even recognize the obviously conflicting positions.
Protecting our children by selectively celebrating or excusing some be taken advantage of is wild.
There's no age limit on dummies doing dummy things. People still vote democrat, for example.*
 

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Would a 15yo girl seducing a 15yo boy be more acceptable than a 25yo woman(possibly a teacher, so a trusted adult at that) seducing a 15yo boy?


I am. Not everything is about power differentials. What's more likely to cause emotional issues later in life?
 

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My wife is on a committee at church regarding the children’s and preschool ministry. One of the ladies argued that men should not be allowed to work in those areas in order to protect children from predators. My wife replied, “Have you seen the news lately? I am more worried about some of these women taking advantage of kids.”
While true I can almost guarantee you the young man will be ok. He'll be thinking back about this fondly for years to come. For a young lady......completely different thoughts and outcomes normally at that age.
 
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I hope you realize that 98% of us when we were 15 would have jumped all over a 25 year old attractive woman who was willing to let us dip our pen in the company ink.
The subject of a South Park classic (that I tried to link but screwed up...)
 
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The subject of a South Park classic (that it tried to link but screwed up...)
Ha, that was a fantastic episode.
The satirization of how some of the media and some in the public reacted to child rape by people like Mary Kay Letourneau, was damn solid.

Cartman was Dog the Bounty Hunter too.
 

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While true I can almost guarantee you the young man will be ok. He'll be thinking back about this fondly for years to come. For a young lady......completely different thoughts and outcomes normally at that age.
This is really not accurate. Boys will not generally be as messed up as girls, but sex releases a lot of powerful brain chemistry. The reason a lot of men think they wouldn't have been messed up by sex at 15 is that they weren't having a lot of sex at 15. A good example of this is Mary Kay Letourneau's victim married her when he was 22 and she was 45. She was perfectly ok looking for a 45 year old, but a normal 22 year old is not signing up to marry a 45 year that looks like her at that age. Especially with the additional challenges of being a convicted felon and registered sex offender. His brain was still messed up at 22.
 
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98% might be a bit high. But certainly a lot would. And, no one wants to say it, but some of the girls who are statutory raped by 25-year old men are willing participants and don't mind it at all too. Still, there has to be a line where it's rape. Apparently that's 16-years old, or if it's a teacher-student relationship. I personally think it should be 18, or within 2 years in age.
It is 18 in Mississippi for any position of authority or trust or however they phrase it. Not exactly sure what it is, but teacher, doctor, minister, etc. I think are all included.

And there are definitely plenty of high school girls that will aggressively go after a young male teacher. The vast majority of them won't, but if 1 in 50 will, that means even at pretty small schools, there is at least 1, and at decent sized schools, you're talking about 2 or 3. I did not go to a big school and there were a good number of girls that would flirt with coaches. One of them would would be really aggressive, and I think it was more about validation than wanting anything to actually happen, but I would not have entirely faulted one of the coaches for being dumb enough to make a move on her given the signals she was putting out.
 
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