2027 Recruiting Thread

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You raise great points, and I mostly agree with them. Campbell will do great here. I do think they are still learning wr recruiting at this level. It is crazy territory. They had matched Auburn’s nil offer for Hall, had a silent verbal from the visit, and (supposedly true story) Auburn threw in a $100k truck at the end to land (flip) the commitment. Even though Campbell had nothing to do with it, we won’t be getting discounts on upper level wr prospects until PSU flips the disastrous script on wr development. We have not had success since Dotson and Washington. It is absolutely vital for our reputation and recruiting that Sowell has a great season and gets drafted. Maybe then a Hall or Taylor will not back out of a (silent) commitment here for just a few more dollars when we have a value proposition that we will get you drafted.
Previous WR performance has nothing to do with it. That was a previous coaching staff and different players. I don’t think anyone believes that correlation carries over now. If anything, this staff has to prove they can coach up players because their own WR coach, who was responsible for putting a few guys in the NFL, quit very early in his PSU tenure. Largely, though, it seems to come down to NIL funds. Otherwise, Taylor wouldn’t have even given Rhule and Nebraska the time of day because Nebraska has no history of WR development.
 
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Previous WR performance has nothing to do with it. That was a previous coaching staff and different players. I don’t think anyone believes that correlation carries over now. If anything, this staff has to prove they can coach up players because their own WR coach, who was responsible for putting a few guys in the NFL, quit very early in his PSU tenure. Largely, though, it seems to come down to NIL funds. Otherwise, Taylor wouldn’t have even given Rhule and Nebraska the time of day because Nebraska has no history of WR development.
While money is a big part of it, especially at wr, qb and edge, recent success in sending players to the League can help mitigate smaller differences in compensation with programs like Neb that has no success in wr development. Taylor is roughly getting from Neb what we pay Koby Howard and Sowell, which is equivalent to what you pay solid starting but not (yet) elite WR talent in the portal.
All of these things are difficult calculations and bets when you run on a budget. Do you bet on a very expensive hs recruit like Taylor on a 2 year contract that you can develop him to be elite by year 2 at the risk he either busts or leaves if successful? Or do you spend that same money on a proven but perhaps not spectacular starting wr in the portal? Or do you forgo recruiting any highly rated WRs and if you had $1.5-$2m set aside for hs wr talent, do you use it to land a proven elite wr in the portal and get developmental guys in recruiting? Who knows what the right answer is, but I would still spend on at least 1 highly rated wr in recruiting.
We are quiet right now and it’s typically a very quiet time of the cycle, but we are starting to trade follows with new guys on social media such as Chris Harris Jr and Carlos Ferguson and others. It may mean nothing or it may mean they are flip candidates. Still, I wouldn’t anticipate anything happening very soon as Campbell’s crew is non-reactive by nature.
 
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Marshall2323

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Previous WR performance has nothing to do with it. That was a previous coaching staff and different players. I don’t think anyone believes that correlation carries over now. If anything, this staff has to prove they can coach up players because their own WR coach, who was responsible for putting a few guys in the NFL, quit very early in his PSU tenure. Largely, though, it seems to come down to NIL funds. Otherwise, Taylor wouldn’t have even given Rhule and Nebraska the time n the future. Inof day because Nebraska has no history of WR development.
Franklin has more than 2x The number of former players on NFL rosters than Campbell. Recruits have agents with data. The real issue is money now. Not in the future. Take the biggest offer today and then again tomorrow.
 
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KingLando

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Franklin has more than 2x The number of former players on NFL rosters than Campbell. Recruits have agents with data. The real issue is money now. Not in the future. Take the biggest offer today and then again tomorrow.
Maybe that's because of where they were coaching. Hmmmn
Even Franklin acknowledged he was given the money. Next you'll claim he didn't have money for the coaches he wanted.
 
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LB99

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While money is a big part of it, especially at wr, qb and edge, recent success in sending players to the League can help mitigate smaller differences in compensation with programs like Neb that has no success in wr development. Taylor is roughly getting from Neb what we pay Koby Howard and Sowell, which is equivalent to what you pay solid starting but not (yet) elite WR talent in the portal.
All of these things are difficult calculations and bets when you run on a budget. Do you bet on a very expensive hs recruit like Taylor on a 2 year contract that you can develop him to be elite by year 2 at the risk he either busts or leaves if successful? Or do you spend that same money on a proven but perhaps not spectacular starting wr in the portal? Or do you forgo recruiting any highly rated WRs and if you had $1.5-$2m set aside for hs wr talent, do you use it to land a proven elite wr in the portal and get developmental guys in recruiting? Who knows what the right answer is, but I would still spend on at least 1 highly rated wr in recruiting.
We are quiet right now and it’s typically a very quiet time of the cycle, but we are starting to trade follows with new guys on social media such as Chris Harris Jr and Carlos Ferguson and others. It may mean nothing or it may mean they are flip candidates. Still, I wouldn’t anticipate anything happening very soon as Campbell’s crew is non-reactive by nature.
Proven “elite” WRs in the portal are most likely demanding far more money than HS WRs. If PSU can’t afford high level HS WRs, then they will struggle to get proven WRs in the portal.
 
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Proven “elite” WRs in the portal are most likely demanding far more money than HS WRs. If PSU can’t afford high level HS WRs, then they will struggle to get proven WRs in the portal.
WR are also attaching themselves to 5 star QBs and programs that have returning QBs who can sling it. In 2027 PSU can't offer either one.
 

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I don't hang with fanboys. Do you have a secret handshake?
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Apparently, PSU itself is pissed at HVU. Leave it to us to be late out of the gate setting up NIL and then having a collective that may be incompetent. Maybe this will lead to something newer and much better.
What does that mean “leave it to us.” Penn State is one of the greatest football programs in history.

Now one can debate if what we have now is “college football”…so this is new and uncharted waters.

But to be critical of PSU for football is disingenuous - to see the least.
 

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What does that mean “leave it to us.” Penn State is one of the greatest football programs in history.

Now one can debate if what we have now is “college football”…so this is new and uncharted waters.

But to be critical of PSU for football is disingenuous - to see the least.
History is like 40 years ago.
 
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Come on man. What is your Schtick my friend? Your posts are very childish.
What's childish is pretending a WR with 35 catches is going to terrorize our opponents. Improving on the results of the past several years will require an upgrade in talent. Why is it so difficult to be realistic?
Pretending that the current trends are going to achieve "excellence at the highest level" isn't being a PSU fan IMO.
It's simply being naive. I'll grant you that this team as constructed can win 10 games with this schedule. But it's a double edged sword. They could go 10-2 and be left out of the playoffs as a result. Michigan , USC and Washington could all be 3 loss teams. As such if one of them is your best win, well you get the picture.
My issue is 2027 and beyond.
 

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What's childish is pretending a WR with 35 catches is going to terrorize our opponents. Improving on the results of the past several years will require an upgrade in talent. Why is it so difficult to be realistic?
Pretending that the current trends are going to achieve "excellence at the highest level" isn't being a PSU fan IMO.
It's simply being naive. I'll grant you that this team as constructed can win 10 games with this schedule. But it's a double edged sword. They could go 10-2 and be left out of the playoffs as a result. Michigan , USC and Washington could all be 3 loss teams. As such if one of them is your best win, well you get the picture.
My issue is 2027 and beyond.
Your issue is Franklin is gone and you're going to complain nonstop about it like many did when Paterno was fired (though that was way more valid)
Franklin is gone--embrace change--if Campbell doesn't win he'll be gone next--as is life as a coach
 

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What does that mean “leave it to us.” Penn State is one of the greatest football programs in history.

Now one can debate if what we have now is “college football”…so this is new and uncharted waters.

But to be critical of PSU for football is disingenuous - to see the least.
Football fundraising is not organized, and it’s completely accurate to note the truth. We are one of the largest alumni bases in the country with more CEOs in corporate America than any other school. To be in the bottom half of the top 25 football payrolls is a failure of PSU fundraising efforts. We have taken far longer to get organized in NIL than other large schools, and we were very late to start versus our top competitors.
FYI - learned from an actual donor on another board that it’s really not effective going through HVU at this point. If you want to support the football program, supposedly it’s actually much more effective go this route and choose football - https://gopsusports.com/sport-excellence-funds .
 
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Football fundraising is not organized, and it’s completely accurate to note the truth. We are one of the largest alumni bases in the country with more CEOs in corporate America than any other school. To be in the bottom half of the top 25 football payrolls is a failure of PSU fundraising efforts. We have taken far longer to get organized in NIL than other large schools, and we were very late to start versus our top competitors.
FYI - learned from an actual donor on another board that it’s really not effective going through HVU at this point. If you want to support the football program, supposedly it’s actually much more effective go this route and choose football - https://gopsusports.com/sport-excellence-funds .
I would not take that citation about the number of CEOs as gospel. And just because someone is the CEO of a company doesn't automatically position them to do a NIL deal.
 

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Football fundraising is not organized, and it’s completely accurate to note the truth. We are one of the largest alumni bases in the country with more CEOs in corporate America than any other school. To be in the bottom half of the top 25 football payrolls is a failure of PSU fundraising efforts. We have taken far longer to get organized in NIL than other large schools, and we were very late to start versus our top competitors.
FYI - learned from an actual donor on another board that it’s really not effective going through HVU at this point. If you want to support the football program, supposedly it’s actually much more effective go this route and choose football - https://gopsusports.com/sport-excellence-funds .


Total number of CEOs is irrelevant. It is the big money CEOs that are needed and psu does not have the tech CEOs or the oil money.

The whole nil plan is a contradiction of psu. Joebots spent decades pushing success with honor and now they wonder why psu does not have more bagmen.
 

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I would not take that citation about the number of CEOs as gospel. And just because someone is the CEO of a company doesn't automatically position them to do a NIL deal.
True, but it speaks to the ability to fundraise at a greater rate than others if we have more successful alumni.