Asking for what no other coach ever got! Except about 100 who took extensions and raises instead of coming to Dear Old State. Hahahahah
FC: New James Franklin article in The Athletic.
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That was my biggest issue as well. With so many years in coaching he never seemed to develop into a football guy, just a manager.
So far I’m enjoying Campbell’s thoughtful answers to football-specific questions. It’s a far cry from Franklin’s usual “we’ll have to go look at the tape”.
Well "we just know." Because we all could have been D1 coaches making 8+ million per year.....we just chose not to!
But if you say stuff often enough, the moron majority here will restate it and believe it to be true. Like "we gave Franklin everything he needed to win." LOL so where is it now? Because Kraft said MC would have "more" resources.
As for going to Neeli for a raise, that never happened. Anyone with an IQ above 80 knows that coaches have agents.
It might have been advisable to watch Campbell coach a cake schedule for a year, before trashing Franklin. Anyone wish to guess how long it is until the new staff coaches a "bad game?"
How many titles did he win in the weak Big 12 anyway?
He does have 26 ex players on NFL rosters. Franklin has 58. oops
That's a big part of success in coaching.
There are more than a few sub 80 IQs in every fan baseWell "we just know." Because we all could have been D1 coaches making 8+ million per year.....we just chose not to!
But if you say stuff often enough, the moron majority here will restate it and believe it to be true. Like "we gave Franklin everything he needed to win." LOL so where is it now? Because Kraft said MC would have "more" resources.
As for going to Neeli for a raise, that never happened. Anyone with an IQ above 80 knows that coaches have agents.
It might have been advisable to watch Campbell coach a cake schedule for a year, before trashing Franklin. Anyone wish to guess how long it is until the new staff coaches a "bad game?"
So it just seems like they all congregate here?
His revolving door of coordinators says it all.
Emblematic of Franklin's emotional immaturity, he can't stop talking about his Ex. It's feline how he acts. I think back to the blow ups at fan's(4th and 5 and as recently as last year during spring game), the constant need to trumpet his accomplishments. Now acting like a woman in an abusive relationship...."I should have left him sooner." It's such a joke, he had 12 years, received more pay than he earned. This victim mentality that permeates in everything he says post termination only proves how important it was to move on and why he never could have success against the best. I have tried really hard to acknowledge what James did well as our coach and just cited I thought it was time for both parties to move on, but the persistent whining, discussing what he had "earned," talking about all of his accomplishments here, and running to the media constantly for cover is just ridiculous. If I was a VT fan, I'd be furious about Franklin constantly talking about his old boyfriend while dating me.
Hmm....does anyone here watch college football? Back in 2021 BOB was Saban's 8th offensive coordinator. That's just offense. So changing coordinators does not say it all. But hey, I'll bet it plays well with the peanut gallery. Franklin's mother wears combat boots. How's that?
Are you absolving Franklin for the team's utter lack of preparation against a UCLA team that until they played PSU hadn't led for a single second in 2025? Do you give him a pass for other flat efforts like the 9-OT Illinois game and the NW game right after the UCLA debacle?
And what does it say about your immaturity that you are talking about him talking about "us." You can't make up this level of stupidity.
Franklin was a phenomenal recruiter and yet with all those nfl players he won only one b1g title in 12 years. That's one more than Campbell and he hasn't coached a PSU game yet.
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Please make this thread go away. JF is irrelevant to us as far I am concerned. Move on.
I thought Franklin was very successful here and it seems as though he thinks the same. The way he built us for the long term given the situation he inherited, probably could not have been accomplished by many other coaches.
It was the big game losses that just continued to pile up. I don't wish him ill will and I may even end up rooting for Tech. I don't think Franklin will root for us, though. It was just time to try something new - for both sides. We may end up failing with Campbell, but we had to try something different. It was getting insane to keep bashing our heads against that ceiling.
Btw, he keeps saying things like "i turned down so many jobs" "i stayed even though i didn't have to" blah blah blah. He was never offered LSU or USC. Both those schools hired more accomplished and regarded coaches. Maybe he flirted with Tennessee (mediocre program) and FSU (ACC yuck). And now he sounds so bitter at Tech because he's out of the SEC/BIG. Does anyone think he'd stay THERE if any other bigger name came calling? It has rebound relationship written all over it.
Everybody just needs to push forward, this season could not come soon enough.
It was the big game losses that just continued to pile up. I don't wish him ill will and I may even end up rooting for Tech. I don't think Franklin will root for us, though. It was just time to try something new - for both sides. We may end up failing with Campbell, but we had to try something different. It was getting insane to keep bashing our heads against that ceiling.
Btw, he keeps saying things like "i turned down so many jobs" "i stayed even though i didn't have to" blah blah blah. He was never offered LSU or USC. Both those schools hired more accomplished and regarded coaches. Maybe he flirted with Tennessee (mediocre program) and FSU (ACC yuck). And now he sounds so bitter at Tech because he's out of the SEC/BIG. Does anyone think he'd stay THERE if any other bigger name came calling? It has rebound relationship written all over it.
Everybody just needs to push forward, this season could not come soon enough.
Multiple threads on this board have become an argument clinic and there has been a lot of trolling. Especially by the JamesBots. Instead of using the ignore button, I just scroll past the posts by those I consider useless argument posters, and I’m sure most who visit here know who they are. This is the worst I have seen since I joined the board in 1995.
Agreed, I am apathetic, and it saddens me. I held season tickets for 41 years, traveling to away games at Notre Dame, Ohio State, Kentucky, and virtually all the Eastern schools like Navy, Syracuse, etc. For all the obvious reasons, I no longer care, but I envy those that still do. That aside, my life has taken an unexpected turn and I will be posting about that in the next couple of days.
LOL How many times did we all hear that over the years?
It was hilarious to hear, going all the way back to the Barbour days - when you know that, in truth, it is total BS. From the second it comes out of their mouths.
But so many folks just eat that kind of propaganda up.
There was good and bad w HCJF - no doubt. Could be discussed for days.
But perhaps the worst thing he did, for all involved (including himself), was allowing the world's largest cheerleader to bounce around on the sidelines, pretending to be a coach (rather than doing the things he should have been doing, but perhaps was not capable of doing)
I am not sure how it would have gone over if he (and other coaches) had told him to stay in his lane. Maybe it would have gotten "bad". But it is not a healthy relationship for anyone involved (not just football) - not the way it was handled then, and not the way it continues to be handled throughout the athletics program.
The past few VA Tech hires don't exactly make them an expert eitherIt's apparent that Va Tech didn't share your expert insight into coaching. Why didn't they consult the BWICAC?
College football coaching hire rankings: James Franklin, Lane Kiffin lead
oops...where is Matt Campbell? Just keep scrolling down. LOL
The fact you still believe firing him was wrong is....a lot of things
When he was fired, someone on this forum summarized it perfectly: "When you lose hope, it's time to move on". There was no one left who thought he could win a championship here.
Think the ones still holding out for championships wanted him gone, but the ones who didn’t/don’t think PSU is capable didn’t care and preferred the devil they know (10 win seasons, good recruiting, good bowls, playoff appearance here and there, but nothing more).
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Well I took the IQ test on YouTube and if i got 3 out of 20 questIons correct I have an IQ over 150! I managed to get 5! Yippee!!!
I truly do not want to talk about CJF....but this characterization he was a great or phenomenal recruiter is certainly generous. Great or phenomenal would be averaging top 5 recruiting classes regularly.....CJF averaged 14th! Stop discussing Franklin and begin to discover the strengths of Campbell....
Here are my lowered expectations for 2026 PSU Football.
1) If an overly eager DE repeatedly jumps offsides, they get called to the sidelines, get bitched out by the HC and sit for a few plays until they learn there are consequences for effing up.
2) The interior DL people stop any and all inside runs. They don't necessarily need to get to the QB.
3) The OL (under the new guy) needs to show they can block straight on but also move laterally, much like the dominating OL's under Craig Cirbus in 1994.
4) PSU plays a little mean / edgy both on offense and defense. No fluffy cute plays
Is that too much to ask?
1) If an overly eager DE repeatedly jumps offsides, they get called to the sidelines, get bitched out by the HC and sit for a few plays until they learn there are consequences for effing up.
2) The interior DL people stop any and all inside runs. They don't necessarily need to get to the QB.
3) The OL (under the new guy) needs to show they can block straight on but also move laterally, much like the dominating OL's under Craig Cirbus in 1994.
4) PSU plays a little mean / edgy both on offense and defense. No fluffy cute plays
Is that too much to ask?
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Regardless of how Campbell does, Kraft should be next. Not a fan at all.
Here are my lowered expectations for 2026 PSU Football.
1) If an overly eager DE repeatedly jumps offsides, they get called to the sidelines, get bitched out by the HC and sit for a few plays until they learn there are consequences for effing up.
2) The interior DL people stop any and all inside runs. They don't necessarily need to get to the QB.
3) The OL (under the new guy) needs to show they can block straight on but also move laterally, much like the dominating OL's under Craig Cirbus in 1994.
4) PSU plays a little mean / edgy both on offense and defense. No fluffy cute plays
Is that too much to ask?
Campbell coached at ISU for 10 years. A school with fewer resources (than PSU) but in a conference considerable weaker than the Big Ten. How many titles did he win?
Campbell coming out of the woodwork is the only thing that saved Kraft's job (for now). That and the desire not to change horses in the middle of the stream (stadium project). He hasn't escaped this mess unscathed.