I have faith......

[heyholet'sgo]

In CMC...... where is Pat Kraft ? Lots of big talk earlier , before he was saved by Neeli ??? Where is that talk now ? Again , we probably shouldn't IMHO want everything yellow brick road . Cut some slack. I for one admire the conservative approach CMC is taking . Seems calculated.... what do I know ? Just have a gut feeling that the process is good: the ups and downs are the fluff . I learned this all being with my wife

 

[CVLion]

I’m feeling cautiously hopeful

 

[Marshall2323]

Does faith alone ensure salvation?

 

[bdgan]

I for one admire the conservative approach CMC is taking . Seems calculated....

I don't think getting shut out on the top 5 prospects from PA, MD, & NJ was calculated. Otherwise why did we even offer those kids?

 

[LaJollaCreek]

I don't think getting shut out on the top 5 prospects from PA, MD, & NJ was calculated. Otherwise why did we even offer those kids?

Which one of those kids did PSU match or have the top $$$ bid on and lost out on? Clearly it must be several. How is it there are people that have followed this sport for decades and still are clueless as to what is going on currently? I get people maybe not liking the results there, but cause and effect when $$$'s are on the line is a real thing. It's no longer recruiting, it's free agency from HS until they graduate college/get drafted......that is the game now. These kids basically have 10+ job offers so they can take the most lucrative package out there. Now just like any other occupation sometime geography, family, or factors come into play, but $$$'s often win out. A few won't get wrapped up in that maybe and give the hometown discount once in a while to a school, but this notion it's not about incentive package first and foremost is outright crazy.

Bigger pockets will have higher ranked recruiting HS classes and in the portal. Other teams need to work around that.....and PSU isn't outbidding a certain number of schools or overpaying just to check a box. Will that strategy work out...don't know, but that is what is occurring until $$$'s step up to what other schools are paying. This woe is me or I don't know why BS persona's people put on here with "recruiting" is a bit of a joke. Franklin wasn't getting top 5 classes and was closer to 12-13 with one BT title in 12 years. Not awful and not a shot at JF, but PSU's position in recruiting really hasn't changed drastically....because it's free agency to the highest bidder.

 

[Chumboshifko1]

$ and s have ruined CFB.

 

[bdgan]

Which one of those kids did PSU match or have the top $$$ bid on and lost out on?

None of us know the answer to that but it seems to me that lack of NIL money would cost us SOME of the top kids, not ALL of the top kids. Nebraska has a higher rated class than PSU but reports don't show that they have more NIL $$$ than PSU.

 

[LaJollaCreek]

None of us know the answer to that but it seems to me that lack of NIL money would cost us SOME of the top kids, not ALL of the top kids. Nebraska has a higher rated class than PSU but reports don't show that they have more NIL $$$ than PSU.

Well we do know what happened on the heads up WR recently. Not to mention what those paid on this site to report have been saying. There will always be one offs of some kids playing for their home team but money matters most now with the high end recruits. The game is changed. It’s not very confusing when you look at the top 10 on signing day.

 

[haveyoumethoward]

Does faith alone ensure salvation?

For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God;
Not of works, lest any man should boast.
KJV Ephesians 2:8-9

For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith; as it is written,
The just shall live by faith.
KJV Romans 1:17

 

[PSUFTG]

None of us know the answer to that but it seems to me that lack of NIL money would cost us SOME of the top kids, not ALL of the top kids. Nebraska has a higher rated class than PSU but reports don't show that they have more NIL $$$ than PSU.

No doubt. The "every other program is throwing bags of cash at kids", and PSU cannot/does not (Because? Why? LOL), is just so intellectually and logically stupid. It really doesn't merit any oxygen.
But it makes for a darn nice all-purpose excuse, allowing one to maintain and justify their specific fanaticism.

 

[LaJollaCreek]

No doubt. The "every other program is throwing bags of cash at kids", and PSU cannot/does not (Because? Why? LOL), is just so intellectually and logically stupid. It really doesn't merit any oxygen.
But it makes for a darn nice all-purpose excuse, allowing one to maintain and justify their specific fanaticism.

So which of the top 10 teams is PSU out paying currently or will they out pay come December? Bring some receipts for once. Is TT spending less than PSU now or are they just better at recruiting all of a sudden? Clearly you think PSU is outbidding or on par with anyone out there, so show us the receipts.

You have to be some sort of special idiot to think money doesn't matter in the NIL era.....I mean record level idiot. Him bringing up Nebraska BARELY ahead with 5-6 months left until signing day isn't some sure fire data point either....maybe they do finish higher, but I wouldn't place a bet there either. Maybe MC is purposely missing out on kids because he has this massive budget but is so confident in his ability to coach that he laughs at the market. That is probably it, he could have outbid UGa for Spell and never impacted the rest of his budget.

Come December there aren't going to be teams in the top 10 that didn't shell out more money. Sorry this truth bothers old men looking to cry about recruits going elsewhere or a HC making too much money in their opinions.

 

[NittanyLionRoar]

None of us know the answer to that but it seems to me that lack of NIL money would cost us SOME of the top kids, not ALL of the top kids. Nebraska has a higher rated class than PSU but reports don't show that they have more NIL $$$ than PSU.

I don’t think we have a lack of NIL, in that we’re probably hovering around #15. Yeah that’s a lack of funds compared to the Uber NIL rich schools, but it’s good enough to compete. We’re starting to see how disciplined or undisciplined some coaches are financially.

Here’s the problem for schools like Nebraska, VT, Auburn, and Colorado who probably have similar NIL as us—they pour their budget into a couple kids, but then can’t afford to fill out the rest of the team. You saw Franklin do this at PSU with Allar, Olesh, Singleton, and Liam Clifford (for some reason), who got gobs of money while we had no one at WR, LB, and DT. He’s doing it again at VT where he’s paying starter money for 4 QBs, three of which will be riding the bench, and yet hasn’t really addressed the weaknesses at most positions. Does he have bodies at those positions? Sure. Are they good? No.

 

[Marshall2323]

For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God;
Not of works, lest any man should boast.
KJV Ephesians 2:8-9

For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith; as it is written,
The just shall live by faith.
KJV Romans 1:17

And yet in the game of football, faith will not get you to the promised land. Good works are essential.

 

[Marshall2323]

I don’t think we have a lack of NIL, in that we’re probably hovering around #15. Yeah that’s a lack of funds compared to the Uber NIL rich schools, but it’s good enough to compete. We’re starting to see how disciplined or undisciplined some coaches are financially.

Here’s the problem for schools like Nebraska, VT, Auburn, and Colorado who probably have similar NIL as us—they pour their budget into a couple kids, but then can’t afford to fill out the rest of the team. You saw Franklin do this at PSU with Allar, Olesh, Singleton, and Liam Clifford (for some reason), who got gobs of money while we had no one at WR, LB, and DT. He’s doing it again at VT where he’s paying starter money for 4 QBs, three of which will be riding the bench, and yet hasn’t really addressed the weaknesses at most positions. Does he have bodies at those positions? Sure. Are they good? No.

I'd stop worrying about Franklin. Succeed or fail, it's not moving the needle at PSU. But there is that one slight detail....he's currently out recruiting PSU. Losing chips to Nebraska, Rutgers or Auburn isn't about how they will or won't impact those schools. The bottom line is those coveted players are lost to PSU.
So, are we satisfied with PSU's "excellence at the highest level" and access to "elite level resources" resulting in a #15 finish on average? Or are we still pretending we'll "coach em up?"

 

[LaJollaCreek]

I don’t think we have a lack of NIL, in that we’re probably hovering around #15. Yeah that’s a lack of funds compared to the Uber NIL rich schools, but it’s good enough to compete. We’re starting to see how disciplined or undisciplined some coaches are financially.

Here’s the problem for schools like Nebraska, VT, Auburn, and Colorado who probably have similar NIL as us—they pour their budget into a couple kids, but then can’t afford to fill out the rest of the team. You saw Franklin do this at PSU with Allar, Olesh, Singleton, and Liam Clifford (for some reason), who got gobs of money while we had no one at WR, LB, and DT. He’s doing it again at VT where he’s paying starter money for 4 QBs, three of which will be riding the bench, and yet hasn’t really addressed the weaknesses at most positions. Does he have bodies at those positions? Sure. Are they good? No.

Certain schools could always afford recruiting mistakes in the past with over signing and forcing them out the door. Now they just tell them to portal and move on to the next guy as $$$'s isn't as big of an issue there. Out of the 120+ D1 schools out there PSU is not the little sister of the poor by any stretch, but they also aren't in that top 10 $$$ conversation. Why some people want to pretend they are top 10 $$$ school or ignore the fact other schools are paying more than others is wild to me. It's pretty much trying to be actively ignorant to how the "recruiting" game currently operates. It's no longer recruiting really....it's free agency and if you have two offers...with one more than $50K plus more....MOST not ALL, most people may take the better financial package. Some people do not center their lives around $$$'s and some want to be that hometown hero, but exceptions are that....exceptions. Most of the time $$$'s will win out with the most elite "recruits".

 

[Bvillebaron]

So which of the top 10 teams is PSU out paying currently or will they out pay come December? Bring some receipts for once. Is TT spending less than PSU now or are they just better at recruiting all of a sudden? Clearly you think PSU is outbidding or on par with anyone out there, so show us the receipts.

You have to be some sort of special idiot to think money doesn't matter in the NIL era.....I mean record level idiot. Him bringing up Nebraska BARELY ahead with 5-6 months left until signing day isn't some sure fire data point either....maybe they do finish higher, but I wouldn't place a bet there either. Maybe MC is purposely missing out on kids because he has this massive budget but is so confident in his ability to coach that he laughs at the market. That is probably it, he could have outbid UGa for Spell and never impacted the rest of his budget.

Come December there aren't going to be teams in the top 10 that didn't shell out more money. Sorry this truth bothers old men looking to cry about recruits going elsewhere or a HC making too much money in their opinions.

All I heard when Campbell was hired is that Penn State would provide him with lots of NIL money to spend. And here you are claiming, without YOU bringing any receipts, that Penn State is losing all these recruits solely because they are being out spent. What happened to all that NIL money? Did Campbell use all of it to bring in Becht and the other 24 ISU players?

 

[DaytonRickster]

Does faith alone ensure salvation?

If you are asking a spiritual question, then the answer is yes, by faith alone in Jesus Christ's vicarious death, burial, and resurrection. (Romans 5: 8; Romans 10: 9,10; John 14: 1-6; Acts 4: 12; II Corinthians 5: 21; Ephesians 2: 8-10)
If you are asking a football question, then there are no assurances.

 

[DaytonRickster]

For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God;
Not of works, lest any man should boast.
KJV Ephesians 2:8-9

For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith; as it is written,
The just shall live by faith.
KJV Romans 1:17

Amen brother, amen!

 

[bdgan]

No doubt. The "every other program is throwing bags of cash at kids", and PSU cannot/does not (Because? Why? LOL), is just so intellectually and logically stupid. It really doesn't merit any oxygen.
But it makes for a darn nice all-purpose excuse, allowing one to maintain and justify their specific fanaticism.

I think lack of NIL $$$ is a problem for PSU but I think there's more to it than that. I was always concerned that Campbell lacked recruiting contacts/relationships in the northeast. It will take time to build those relationships. I think that lack of a 2026 high school class is a factor. That put Campbell behind the eight ball before he even arrived. Top players want to play with other top players and PSU doesn't have many coming back next year. I'm sure WR Khalil Taylor liked the idea of catching passes for the #1 rated QB in the country Trae Taylor. His alternative at this point was to catch passes from the 44th rated QB last year Manske or 26th rated Will Wood.

PSU is going to struggle with NIL but I can't help but to think they bit off more than they could chew with the stadium renovations. I suspect a lot of people who are helping fund the stadium upgrade are the same people we would hit up for NIL contributions. The problem is you can only get so much from some people.

 

[NittanyLionRoar]

All I heard when Campbell was hired is that Penn State would provide him with lots of NIL money to spend. And here you are claiming, without YOU bringing any receipts, that Penn State is losing all these recruits solely because they are being out spent. What happened to all that NIL money? Did Campbell use all of it to bring in Becht and the other 24 ISU players?

Yes, I bet we spent a lot of NIL on retention and transfers. We’re going to have one of the most veteran teams in the country this fall and now with the new 5-for-5 rule, many of those starters are going to be coming back for an extra year and we gotta pay them if we want them.

It looks to me like the coaching staff was planning for a big class, but with the new rule slowed the tap so they can retain a bunch of super-seniors for 2027, which I think is a great idea. But we can already see that the taps are on full force for the 2028 class once those 5th year players all graduate.

 

[Wilbury]

I don't know how much time should be spent worrying about recruiting anymore. I get that it's still important, but certainly not to the extent that it used to be.

 

[Nits1989]

All I heard when Campbell was hired is that Penn State would provide him with lots of NIL money to spend. And here you are claiming, without YOU bringing any receipts, that Penn State is losing all these recruits solely because they are being out spent. What happened to all that NIL money? Did Campbell use all of it to bring in Becht and the other 24 ISU players?

What exactly did Kraft say?

 

[Nits1989]

I think lack of NIL $$$ is a problem for PSU but I think there's more to it than that. I was always concerned that Campbell lacked recruiting contacts/relationships in the northeast. It will take time to build those relationships. I think that lack of a 2026 high school class is a factor. That put Campbell behind the eight ball before he even arrived. Top players want to play with other top players and PSU doesn't have many coming back next year. I'm sure WR Khalil Taylor liked the idea of catching passes for the #1 rated QB in the country Trae Taylor. His alternative at this point was to catch passes from the 44th rated QB last year Manske or 26th rated Will Wood.

PSU is going to struggle with NIL but I can't help but to think they bit off more than they could chew with the stadium renovations. I suspect a lot of people who are helping fund the stadium upgrade are the same people we would hit up for NIL contributions. The problem is you can only get so much from some people.

The QB is a consideration but its not the sole consideration.

 

[bdgan]

Yes, I bet we spent a lot of NIL on retention and transfers.

Does that matter? Most of the highest rated Iowa State kids are going to be seniors and the money going to them will be done before this class enrolls.

 

[LaJollaCreek]

All I heard when Campbell was hired is that Penn State would provide him with lots of NIL money to spend. And here you are claiming, without YOU bringing any receipts, that Penn State is losing all these recruits solely because they are being out spent. What happened to all that NIL money? Did Campbell use all of it to bring in Becht and the other 24 ISU players?

I'm not claiming it, but the people who write for this site don't really sugar coat things if you read the actual articles.

Are you stating PSU is a top 10 NIL school, is that your take? Where do you get that idea? So you think they have a ton of NIL money that they didn't before and now are just sitting on it as to miss out on recruits......maybe that is some great mental gymnastics now. So which is it....money matters or it doesn't???? Did you read the article on what occurred with Gibson? In terms of spending in the portal this spring, did PSU really have a choice with the decommits from last year and portals as well. Again...I honestly don't think many on this particular site follow the sport, but are here to listen to Bob talk about lattes or rehash their Jerry fetish.

 

[PSUFTG]

I think lack of NIL $$$ is a problem for PSU but I think there's more to it than that. I was always concerned that Campbell lacked recruiting contacts/relationships in the northeast. It will take time to build those relationships. I think that lack of a 2026 high school class is a factor. That put Campbell behind the eight ball before he even arrived. Top players want to play with other top players and PSU doesn't have many coming back next year. I'm sure WR Khalil Taylor liked the idea of catching passes for the #1 rated QB in the country Trae Taylor. His alternative at this point was to catch passes from the 44th rated QB last year Manske or 26th rated Will Wood.

PSU is going to struggle with NIL but I can't help but to think they bit off more than they could chew with the stadium renovations. I suspect a lot of people who are helping fund the stadium upgrade are the same people we would hit up for NIL contributions. The problem is you can only get so much from some people.

If PSU is "struggling with NIL" money - now - then there is a far deeper problem than anyone could imagine.

They have a current roster of bargain basement personnel (relative to the "big boys" - hell, the "open market" value of OSU's top 5 guys is probably more than the entire PSU roster), and a brand new shiny coach that is in his honeymoon period. Not to mention the piles and piles of cash money Kraft lined up with his "transformative" business deals and acumen. Hell, they had so much money flowing in that they could brush off giving Former HCJF a $10,000,000 parting gift to coach somewhere else.

And they can't compete with anyone wrt bringing in new talent? Due to not having enough money?
That is so far from "adding up" or making sense that it boggles the mind (any mind but a fan(atics) mind).
Or, just maybe, it is all horse manure contortions and alibies?

 

[LaJollaCreek]

If PSU is "struggling with NIL" money - now - then there is a far deeper problem than anyone could imagine.

They have a current roster of bargain basement personnel (relative to the "big boys"), and a brand new shiny coach that is in his honeymoon period. Not to mention the piles and piles of cash money Kraft lined up with his "transformative" business deals and acumen.

And they can't compete with anyone wrt bringing in new talent? Due to not having enough money?
That is so far from "adding up" or making sense that it boggles the mind.

Pretty simple question....Does PSU have a top 10 NIL budget currently? Again if your answer is Yes bring some receipts as it's certainly not available on the public domain. Maybe there is an obscure site that makes this claim. Maybe you did one of your fascinating YouTube videos with this claim, but surely you must have some data to back up this top 10 NIL claim.

If your answer is No and PSU is in that 10-20 range which they historically stayed at for the most part.....not sure what you're crying is about. Basically they are whey the have been and there is 5 months left to go until signing day. Maybe they claw up to 12 or so or drop even further, but you can keep pretending this class is ranked way lower than it historically has finished. Hell I saw many on this site argue for a pedophile for years with some still doing it.....so it's not really a shock that some want to pretend PSU is a NIL top 10 spender just missing out on recruits due to a new coach. If you don't like a reality, you just create your own I guess. It would be one thing if you showed me all the recruits PSU outbid people for and just lost or the countless articles stating PSU is a top ten NIL spending school, but I'm not seeing them.

 

[bdgan]

If PSU is "struggling with NIL" money - now - then there is a far deeper problem than anyone could imagine.

They have a current roster of bargain basement personnel (relative to the "big boys" - hell, the "open market" value of OSU's top 5 guys is probably more than the entire PSU roster), and a brand new shiny coach that is in his honeymoon period. Not to mention the piles and piles of cash money Kraft lined up with his "transformative" business deals and acumen. Hell, they had so much money flowing in that they could brush off giving Former HCJF a $10,000,000 parting gift to coach somewhere else.

And they can't compete with anyone wrt bringing in new talent? Due to not having enough money?
That is so far from "adding up" or making sense that it boggles the mind (any mind but a fan(atics) mind).
Or, just maybe, it is all horse manure contortions and alibies?

The $10 million severance for Franklin comes from a different pocket than the NIL money for players.