I served longer than McCain dummy. You don't seem to mind talking **** to me as I educate you about stuff you aren't going learn about watching Alex Jones and Joy Reid.
This is nothing but a HATE forum.
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I served longer than McCain dummy. You don't seem to mind talking **** to me as I educate you about stuff you aren't going learn about watching Alex Jones and Joy Reid.
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I hate Cristians? How did you deduce that? I am a follower of Jesus Christ, my and your savior. And through His grace, has saved us from eternal damnation.
You are an atheist. But keep lying and attacking Veterans. Hopefully it will motivate people to go and vote against your DSA comrades in the General Election.
I am not attacking your service. I am pointing out the disgraceful and disgusting man who is. The one you worship and adore. Your False God. I don’t get it. It’s not logical to me. Logic tells me that you would despise the man who thinks so little of those that served that you would speak out against him. Did the Democrats treat veterans and active duty service men and women so poorly. Please educate me. I’m willing to listen.
I don't want to accuse you of blasphemy because I don't know your relationship with Christ. However I can't understand anyone who calls themselves a follower of Christ yet would support a candidate who believes abortion should be legal anytime, anywhere for any reason with no restrictions and funded by we taxpayers?
Harris is banking on one key issue
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Speaking to Winfrey on Thursday, Harris argued that even abortion restrictions that allow exceptions for the life of the mother are not nearly sufficient because they force doctors to determine if a woman is “on death’s door” before treating her.
Again, the Candidate you say you voted for as a "lesser of two Evils" supported killing unborn children at any time before they're born for any reason even removing exceptions for Life of the Mother! I simply cannot understand how you reconcile your conscience with the Lord and giver of Life with a candidate who embraces a culture of death for the unborn innocent.
It's not my fault you fell for propaganda. Everything I warned was coming from the left has happened. Those that paid attention learned. Maybe you should have paid attention better when someone who has ran the same missions in foreign lands tells you he
the same tactics happening here. Even logical old school Democrats have started admitting it. The only people not admitting it are rooting for the radicals. You better start rooting for Trump or making friends with people that posses certain skills you obviously don't have.Abortion is such a complicated issue that to simply define it in religious terms is too narrow. Do I support abortion? No. Do I support a women’s right to assert her Free Will, that God gave all of us, yes I do. Is abortion a sin? Yes it is. Will God forgive you of that and other sins? If you honestly and truthfully repent, yes He will.I don't want to accuse you of blasphemy because I don't know your relationship with Christ. However I can't understand anyone who calls themselves a follower of Christ yet would support a candidate who believes abortion should be legal anytime, anywhere for any reason with no restrictions and funded by we taxpayers?
Harris is banking on one key issue
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Speaking to Winfrey on Thursday, Harris argued that even abortion restrictions that allow exceptions for the life of the mother are not nearly sufficient because they force doctors to determine if a woman is “on death’s door” before treating her.
Again, the Candidate you say you voted for as a "lesser of two Evils" supported killing unborn children at any time before they're born for any reason even removing exceptions for Life of the Mother! I simply cannot understand how you reconcile your conscience with the Lord and giver of Life with a candidate who embraces a culture of death for the unborn innocent.
Yes! Biden/Harris left them to die in a killing field in Afghanistan!
Biden brags about disastrous Afghanistan pullout that left 13 US service members dead during end-of-term speech
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President Biden touted his infamous decision to end the American military presence in Afghanistan during an end-of-term foreign policy speech Monday, saying he “saw no reason to keep thousands of servicemen” there — despite top generals warning him against the move. But that view was heartily opposed by Biden’s top military advisers — including then-Chief of the Joint Staff Mark Milley — who predicted the rapid downfall of the Afghan government unless the US kept at least 2,500 troops in country. Those warnings proved true on Aug. 15, 2021, when the Taliban — which the US-led invasion had ousted from power two decades before — took Kabul even before the last US troops left the country.
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Biden also failed to mention the Aug. 26, 2021, ISIS-K suicide attack on Hamid Karzai International Airport’s Abbey Gate, which killed 13 service members and hundreds of Afghans attempting to flee the fundamentalist Taliban. The president briefly mentioned “those brave service members whose lives were lost during the withdrawal” — but did not go into further detail.
The hubris here about our brave servicemen & women is only exceeded by the stifling hypocrisy.
I need a drink!
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Gunny, thank you for being genuine and honest with me. I wish you no ill will. People are a product of their circumstances. I understand your circumstances more fully now. And if you believe that this president will help you more than others, I pray you are correct. I really do. I get it now and I wish you nothing but physical and spiritual healing now and always. God Bless You.It's not my fault you fell for propaganda. Everything I warned was coming from the left has happened. Those that paid attention learned. Maybe you should have paid attention better when someone who has ran the same missions in foreign lands tells you he
All of that is true, but you say you voted for Harris as a "lesser of two Evils"...and she doesn't support any of what you said here. Trump does! You are either an inveterate liar, or so confused even you don't understand what you're saying.
He is helping the Country. That's what's important. He could be taking it easy and golfing everyday. Instead he took a thankless job that everybody thinks they could do better at.
Here is how a professional handles himself when confronted with challenging questions. Questions that are clearly intended to trip up and humiliate the speaker. You’ll notice a professional composure, a quiet confidence, along with clarity of message in these responses. No name calling, no threats, no tantrums. Just statesmanlike, leadership qualities that ALL successful people exude. An intelligent, professional, and thoughtful response. If Donny acted more presidential like Obama, I would like him a LOT more. Watch and learn.
It's not what they say it's what they do. Christians are not to be swayed by fancy rhetoric or pronouncements. Rather, we are judged and held accountable for our actions before Almighty God.
The Bible teaches that we will be judged by our actions, not just our words. For example, James 2:17 states, "In the same way, faith by itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead." Additionally, Matthew 7:16 emphasizes that "by their fruit, you will recognize them", indicating that actions reveal true character.
So here's a glimpse into Obama's "character"
Top 10 Ways Obama Violated the Constitution during His Presidency
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Liberal law professor Garrett Epps (a professional acquaintance) admits that “even for those like me who admire Barack Obama, the Constitutional record is disturbingly mixed. Obama leaves the Constitution weaker than at the beginning of his terms.”
Here was a man who not only didn't follow the Law, he totally disregarded it!
New Evidence Uncovers Obama-Directed Creation of False Intelligence Report Used to Launch Years-long Coup to Undermine President Trump and the American People
“The stunning revelations these intelligence documents expose should concern every American. There is irrefutable evidence detailing how President Obama and his national security team directed the creation of an Intelligence Community Assessment that they knew was false, promoting the contrived narrative that Russia interfered in the 2016 election to help President Trump win, as though it were true. The documents we released shows how they did it: manufacturing findings from shoddy sources, suppressing evidence that disproved their false claims, disobeying IC tradecraft standards, and withholding the truth from the American people,” ....“In doing so, they conspired to subvert the will of the American people and worked with their partners in the media to promote this lie to undermine the legitimacy of President Trump. This kicked off what would essentially be a yearslong coup against President Trump which included federal investigations, two impeachments, FBI raids on his home, arrests of senior officials, smears and harassment of President Trump and his family, and more".
I make it a point never to challenge someone's professed Faith in Christ, as each of our walks are a very personal relationship with the Savior. However Faith in Christ animates certain behavior, and more importantly expectations from others you associate with. Followers of Christ DO NOT embrace Sinful behavior, or reckless rejection of Truth under a Biblical world view! It is incompatible with your mind's transformation away from things of the World to things of Almighty God!
Barrack Obama in my opinion should never gather sympathy from any follower of Christ. His whole persona, particularly in his disregard for the Laws protecting us from Government tyranny should be enough to turn any faithful Christian away from his reckless polices and lawlessness. I just wanted to set the record straight on what we as Christians should always be sensitive to as was pointed out in this post from Scripture in Matthew 7:16: " "by their fruit, you will recognize them"
Please Pray for our Nation...the Saved, and the Lost.
The Bible teaches that we will be judged by our actions, not just our words. For example, James 2:17 states, "In the same way, faith by itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead." Additionally, Matthew 7:16 emphasizes that "by their fruit, you will recognize them", indicating that actions reveal true character.
So here's a glimpse into Obama's "character"
Top 10 Ways Obama Violated the Constitution during His Presidency
excerpt:
Liberal law professor Garrett Epps (a professional acquaintance) admits that “even for those like me who admire Barack Obama, the Constitutional record is disturbingly mixed. Obama leaves the Constitution weaker than at the beginning of his terms.”
Here was a man who not only didn't follow the Law, he totally disregarded it!
New Evidence Uncovers Obama-Directed Creation of False Intelligence Report Used to Launch Years-long Coup to Undermine President Trump and the American People
“The stunning revelations these intelligence documents expose should concern every American. There is irrefutable evidence detailing how President Obama and his national security team directed the creation of an Intelligence Community Assessment that they knew was false, promoting the contrived narrative that Russia interfered in the 2016 election to help President Trump win, as though it were true. The documents we released shows how they did it: manufacturing findings from shoddy sources, suppressing evidence that disproved their false claims, disobeying IC tradecraft standards, and withholding the truth from the American people,” ....“In doing so, they conspired to subvert the will of the American people and worked with their partners in the media to promote this lie to undermine the legitimacy of President Trump. This kicked off what would essentially be a yearslong coup against President Trump which included federal investigations, two impeachments, FBI raids on his home, arrests of senior officials, smears and harassment of President Trump and his family, and more".
I make it a point never to challenge someone's professed Faith in Christ, as each of our walks are a very personal relationship with the Savior. However Faith in Christ animates certain behavior, and more importantly expectations from others you associate with. Followers of Christ DO NOT embrace Sinful behavior, or reckless rejection of Truth under a Biblical world view! It is incompatible with your mind's transformation away from things of the World to things of Almighty God!
Barrack Obama in my opinion should never gather sympathy from any follower of Christ. His whole persona, particularly in his disregard for the Laws protecting us from Government tyranny should be enough to turn any faithful Christian away from his reckless polices and lawlessness. I just wanted to set the record straight on what we as Christians should always be sensitive to as was pointed out in this post from Scripture in Matthew 7:16: " "by their fruit, you will recognize them"
Please Pray for our Nation...the Saved, and the Lost.
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We haven’t had one of those since Reagan, I guess an argument could be made for HW Bush.
- Clinton, good leader, terrible character.
- W, poor leader, high character
- Obama, poor leader, high character
- Trump, great leader, abysmal character
- Biden, terrible leader and worse character
- Trump, great leader, great cabinet, amazing foreign policy, amazing economic policy, amazing defense policy, amazing domestic policy, amazing border policy, horrible collaborator, 180 degrees from the woke Obama Yes You Can nonsense, and still a piece of garbage of a human.
So, you just like the black guy that can talk good? Personally, one of things I like most about Trump is how he treats the media. As Republicans, we know we’re facing an adversarial press. We all know the marriage ties of top execs in the media ranks, and top anchors, and their marriages and relationships with the Obama cabinet, and Sr. Dem elected officials. That’s been well known. Since the press went around the bend, they’ve ceased deserving of the respect they think they’re entitled to.
Podcasters and YouTubers have done a far better job than the MSM has in actually holding truth to power. They also have an infinitely larger audience. lol, Rogan’s audience alone dwarfs MSM. Let alone all the other folks out there doing it.
Your shtick is easy to counter because you consume sound bites and narratives. Podcasts have exposed to whole industry and opened so many eyes on not just how planted a news story is, but on the stories the MSM refuse to cover that are massive stories. You’re like a 1/2 inch deep on a lot of issues that you claim to care about because you get a 10 minute OpEd on the topic with 2 commercials baked in. We’re deep diving subjects for 3+ hours on a single podcast, and if it’s a big story, it’s 40+ hours of content, context, and analysis.
for examples:
- COVID:
- We knew masking didn’t work
- We knew the testing didn’t work and was creating false positives of roughly 60+%; why? Because we listened to the dude talk for 3+ hours that patented it.
- We knew early on that they were blurring the lines between deaths with Covid and deaths from Covid, it hospitals were creating massive fraud
- we knew the vax wouldn’t stop the virus or the transmission? Why because we listened to hours of discussion by the guy who patented the technology
- we knew Ivermectin worked and was safe and one of the most used medications in history. Also, because the CDC’s website said it would.
- we knew Fauci didn’t even try to find homeopathic treatment options and was dissuading research into them. Why? Because he wouldn’t have been able to get the EUA approved.
The 1st impeachment, that was blown up before it ever even got to the house for a vote.
The Russia Gate scandal, lol, the lies the left fell for there were unbelievable. Like, wow. Russia didn’t really have an impact at all.
The laptop from hell? We’ve seen the pics, they were released on the web. Fun fact, there are indeed coke addled minors with Hunter. Dad gave him a pardon so he couldn’t be tried. Also, pretty sure there is a pic of him banging out one of Obama’s daughters, unless I’m mistaken.
You pick a major topic, I can pretty much dissect your arguments on it, why? Because i take the time to listen and learn the background and context. I don’t get propagandized. So yea, that’s my most of us think you sound like a raving loon screaming about Trump.
At the end of the day, the left has tried to impeach him unjustly, twice. They’ve tried to assassinate him multiple times. They’ve literally worked with hostile foreign powers to subvert the will of the official government. They tried to install their candidate thwarting the will of their own populace. They’ve tried to undermine Trump’s presidency up to what I’d call an attempted coup. They absolutely cheated in the 2020 election and tried to again in 2024 but enough mechanisms got closed and they couldn’t swamp it again with fake mail in ballots. They pushed banana republic style lawfare against the man, same as they successfully did in Brazil against Bolsanaro.
You’re walking in step with some pretty radical people, I’m not even sure you recognize it because of your unfounded hatred of the man. But rest assured, they’re counting on it from you and those like you.
This is an absolutely outstanding post! I was reluctant to call the OP out for claiming to be "Christian" however after reading this excellent analysis of his political incongruity, I'm convinced he's nothing less than a bald faced liar!
Why?
No "Christian" would overlook such heinous behavior by Government officials you've recalled here @DvlDog4WVU . A True Christian would most vociferously speak out against it, certainly not defend it, and most certainly would NEVER vote for such destructive policies!
Your post, ironically from a self admitted "non-Christian", contained more Godly Wisdom than anything the OP claims by invoking that moniker. A Christian sincerely seeks out Truth, steadfastly holds to that which is proven and provable, and also calls out blatant lies, deception, or lawlessness. All these things you've so brilliantly chronicled here should have been "red flags" for our OP as a so called "Christian"! Instead, he rails against Trump's brashness, or unprofessionalism instead of calling out the despicable behavior you've catalogued from the people we most entrust to protect our God-given Constitutional Liberties!
When we discussed ITT the Christian foundations of the nation, a true Christian would automatically defend them, not suggest as the OP did, that we are rooted in our foundations primarily by mere "Deists"! You, being admittedly non-Christian in your value system, have more personal integrity in your political exegesis than the OP claiming to be enlightened by Christian principles. I quite frankly had washed my hands with his blatant dishonesty and refusal to engage on substantive policy debate until he claimed late ITT to hold the mantle of Christ. That sparked a natural response from me to at least point out to other readers of the thread his support for those Democrat candidates based on his own defined parameters is most definitely NOT Christian!
A Christian while recognizing our Freedom of thought, would never tolerate a racist in open practice. Yet this Christian (the OP) apparently would be OK allowing racists to operate unimpeded to spread their hatred as freely as he is apparently willing to allow Women to kill their innocent unborn offspring. He accuses Trump (who also claims to be Christian) of being a racist, yet he refuses to forgive him or overlook it as easily as he forgives Obama's, Biden's and Harris' Pro Abortion policies! Christians are not supposed to make false accusations against other Christians as the OP does calling Trump a racist, it's not a logically consistent position to take especially with nothing based in Truth to support the allegation. The OP's posts throughout the thread lead me to believe he is NOT Christian, particularly the way he harbors such irrational hatred and an unforgiving Spirit towards Trump. No Christian is that hate filled, or irrational...not even with blatant Sinners!
Again, this post...so well written and perfectly illustrative of the massive blind spot the OP has over the cadre of lies and deception coming from the Left which he supports, convinces me he is not only insincere calling on the name of Christ in support of his arguments, but he is a diabolical liar of the worst kind of anti-Christian Sinner.
This is probably the best post I've ever read from you among many. I personally thank you for offering it to this discussion, and helping me to open my eyes to the disingenuous "un" Christ like behavior I've been suffering through from the OP for this entire thread!
God Bless you @DvlDog4WVU .
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Trump has always profits from his name and done so long before politics. Biden nor any of the other democrats you have voted for can say the same thing . Trump was very rich BEFORE public service and they become millionaires during public service. Bet you cant see the difference can ya ? Trump has never hidden that he is a capitalist but was always a democrat until 2016 . You voted for people who cried they are for the poor and tax the rich but get rich playing poor people's emotions.
I voted for the policies Trump run on. You voted on false emotions.
Biden and Obama hid waht money they was making because it was through corruption, Trump flaunts it because its legal and upfront .. big difference Karen
No, just providing examples of how a mature, intelligent, ADULT handles tough questions. No name calling, no personal insults, no threats, just facts and articulate statesmanlike responses. THAT is how our president should act. Not like a 2 y/o petulant CHILD when people question his decisions. Trump hates the media because they ask tough and probing questions rather than simply accept his half truths. He can’t handle anyone questioning his authority. That’s how dictators behave. That’s how Kim Jong-Un behaves. That’s how Putin behaves. That’s how Xi Jinping behaves. And how Mussolini and Stalin behaved. You hate the extreme leftists. I do too. You appear to favor the extreme right wing policies. I prefer a much more moderate approach.
Yet you vote for abortion, transgender surgeries on children, same-sex marriages, forcing us to pay for transgender surgeries on prisoners, men in women's locker rooms, men in women's/girls restrooms..etc.
Is that the charisma, integrity and leadership you're looking for in a president?
lol, there is very little about Trump’s policies that are far right. The Overton window shifted so far left, it merely seems like it. His policies are basically right down the middle 20 years ago, coming directly out of the Blue Dog Dem playbook.
Seriously, when you have to resort to hyperbole like comparing him with dictators, you’ve lost the argument. I’ve asked you to provide me one single example of him not complying with the courts or congress. Just one. That’s not very dictatorial behavior.
He bashes the press to their faces because they deserve to be bashed. They’re asking gotcha questions for a sound bite and narrative. He doesn’t give them one. They’re also morons with an agenda. How you don’t see that as a problem is beyond me. The news should inform the electorate, not propagandize it. The MSM literally gets its talking points from the DCCC, except for Fox, and frankly, Fox is as annoying as the rest of them. The press holds the most sacred responsibility in a Republic and they’ve completely abdicated it. They’re asking gotcha deserve zero respect and I applaud Trump for treating them like the shills they are.
Did you see that dummy Dana Bash trying to question Doug Bergum about whether someone actually vandalized the reflecting pool, and then tried to make claims about the fencing blocking access not realizing it was due to the fireworks? Just an interview of nonsense.
I miss Kayleigh McEnany’s briefings. No one destroyed the press and effectively called out their hypocrisy with facts the
Here we go again, EXTREME hyperbole. You know what you just posted is total BS. I have said MANY, MANY TIMES, I am a moderate. And I am against ALL the items that you have listed. Lol If we want to get into the weeds of the Bible, then you must be against tattoos. Leviticus 19:28. How many tattoos do you have? I guess you’re not a practicing Christian. Right? Yes, this is a silly comment but just exposing your silly game. You just want to label me an extremist, leftist, liberal but as hard as you try, it’s just simply not true. You are acting childish like the president, quick with the extremist labels. Just because I voted for a candidate does NOT mean I agree with everything they support. I don’t. Please carry on, though. It’s what extremist MAGA followers do. Label and Pivot. Again, as I’ve said MANY times, I voted for the lesser of two evils. Biding my time until better options become available. And hopefully they will.
Just so we are all clear you are not God nor Jesus Christ. You won't be sitting in Judgment of anyone. My advice would be let the professionals handle this topic.
In the meantime make sure you are signing your children and grandchildren up for this.
AWESOME! President Trump reveals CHURCHES will be able to donate to the Trump Accounts, which will strongly benefit poor children and families This is incredible, SO many American lives will be transformed
DECADES from now, hundreds of thousands of Americans will be thanking President Trump.
AWESOME! President Trump reveals CHURCHES will be able to donate to the Trump Accounts, which will strongly benefit poor children and families This is incredible, SO many American lives will be transformed
That is all correct and thanks for the advice. Who are these professionals you speak of?
In the meantime make sure you are signing your children and grandchildren up for this.
AWESOME! President Trump reveals CHURCHES will be able to donate to the Trump Accounts, which will strongly benefit poor children and families This is incredible, SO many American lives will be transformedDECADES from now, hundreds of thousands of Americans will be thanking President Trump.
In the meantime make sure you are signing your children and grandchildren up for this.
AWESOME! President Trump reveals CHURCHES will be able to donate to the Trump Accounts, which will strongly benefit poor children and families This is incredible, SO many American lives will be transformedDECADES from now, hundreds of thousands of Americans will be thanking President Trump.
Other than the name, I actually FULLY SUPPORT these accounts. Great idea and I hope families take advantage of them.
So what about Trump is worse?
You knew that about the candidates yet you still voted for them. This is what I'm talking about. If voting for Trump and his policies were worse, tell us how.
As for the verse you quoted, it was Mosaic Law and was intended to distinguish the ancient Israelites from neighboring pagan cultures that practiced ritualistic body mutilation and marking to mourn the deceased.
Today, we are under a new covenant, not the Law of Moses.
Also, what does that have to do with the price of rice in China?
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Really? So you consider the Old Testament invalid? Ever heard of the Ten Commandments? I believe Moses had a major role in the creation of those. That would explain a lot of your attitude and beliefs.
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No it's not invalid. Do you still offer animal sacrifice under Mosaic laws? I'm thinking not. There are many Mosaic laws we no longer follow. For example:
1-The ban on wearing garments made of mixed materials. Do you do that?
2-Offering bulls, goats, or lambs at an altar for atonement of sins. Do you do that?
3-Stoning or executing people for offenses like working on the Sabbath, blasphemy, or adultery. Do you practice that?
4-Laws permitting the buying and selling of slaves. I hope you're not doing that.
5-Applying direct physical retribution for injuries. (Eye for an eye) Are you doing that?
To just name a few.
Is it all irrelevant? Well no. It's not. But when Jesus came, things changed.
We are under the new Abrahamic Covenant.
Does it make God's Ten Commandments wrong? No. They were reaffirmed under the new covenant.
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Rumor is your Nazi Nominee from Maine allegedly raped a kid while in Iraq. If true he needs to be in prison.
It's not like they can't check. What Trump is saying here is 100% true. This is part of what I tried to debate with @Cheers.
These are policies Democrats were against. Because they aren't good policies? Hell no. It's because they are Trump’s policies.
Look at all the Dems who boycotted the celebration of America's 250th Birthday Anniversary. All because they hate Trump.
What you have to ask yourself is WHY do they hate Trump? So much so, they lied out their a$$es to get him impeached.
They hate him because he refuses to be on the team of the Deep State. He beat Hillary when he was supposed to lose badly. He rocked the boat of the Democrats severely. He embarrassed them.
Isn't it amazing how you STILL have not received an answer on your questions about Trump's actual policies?
This is why I cannot take @Cheers claims to be Christian seriously:
@Cheers said:
"I am against ALL the items that you have listed"
This was a response to @30CAT listing a long line of items any Christian wouldn't support including abortion and transgender mutilation surgeries for little kids.
Yet he wants us to accept his votes for the "lesser of two evils" in support of candidates who favor all of those heinous policies based primarily on how one candidate addresses legacy media vs the other?
Sorry, zero credibility here.
@Cheers said:
"I am against ALL the items that you have listed"
This was a response to @30CAT listing a long line of items any Christian wouldn't support including abortion and transgender mutilation surgeries for little kids.
Yet he wants us to accept his votes for the "lesser of two evils" in support of candidates who favor all of those heinous policies based primarily on how one candidate addresses legacy media vs the other?
Sorry, zero credibility here.
How can you call yourself a follower of Christ saved by his sacrifice at Calvary and then use the Ten Commandments to qualify your Salvation from the wages of Sin?
Even the most neophite of Christians know the 10 Commandments have ZERO to do with your ultimate Salvation!
Just stop. Even athiest Sinners don't step into it like you have here on this forum claiming to be Christian! You are not convincing anyone, especially Almighty God.