OK. I’m in favor of providing affordable health care to millions of Americans who have none. The ACA may not have been perfect but it was a start. How about you?
This is nothing but a HATE forum.
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The problem with those who have TDS, especially with the claim that they voted for the lesser of two evils, is it's just not true.
If they show us policies, they expose themselves as socialists/communists/Marxists. If they refuse to give policies they expose themselves as just haters of Trump, country be damned.
For the record, I don't think Cheers is a socialist, Marxist or a communist.
I think he's either a party loyalist or just pure hatred. I think it's hatred.
Truth is, if you just look at policy and you're voting for the best policies for our country, then there is no way you can say you voted for Biden or Harris. No way in hell either was the best for our country.
Anyone who disagrees? Then show us using policy, not your personal feelings.
It's as simple as that.
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Good points. I said earlier ITT I believe he's simply uninformed. He proves it with his dupilicitous position posturing vis-a-vis his irrational Trump bashing. The bottom line, despite being politely asked several times (without name calling) to explain either his Democrat votes or opposition to the MAGA agenda, we never heard well reasoned, logical, fact supported answers. Never. So, I'm done with him. Hope you and everyone else ITT who honestly tried to engage him is too!
What? She was never President so she never enacted any official policy. However, you can be certain, she would have continued with the ACA and likely made it better. For me, the choice came down to a few things. Personal character, integrity, professionalism, leadership, international statesmanship, and respect for others. The economy was recovering, the US was at peace, things seemed pretty steady. The status quo was ok.
Lmao
In 1988 the msm called him a habitual lier and was not fit for the presidency. Please look it up ...
Character and morals....wtf?
Affordable health care ...
Most can afford health care they chose to afford vacations instead. Or substitute WANTS for vacations. I have many friends that get Oslami care who can afford medical but choose wants over it . Matter of fact I dont know anyone who absolutely cant afford health care . Not in this country.
Using your military service as an excuse for being a potty-mouth is ridiculous. And having worked side by side with HUNDREDS of officers and enlisted alike, I can honestly say that I recall only ONE, a Marine Major who was a complete, foul-mouthed, ahole. But surprisingly we actually got along pretty well. The dude would break phonesand kick chairs in the office when he got mad at someone. Totally unprofessional but no senior officer was around to witness his behavior so he got away with it.
You have never worked side by side with anyone in the Military and Playing Call of Duty doesn't count.
But it's your story tell it however you want.
You voted for Biden and Harris. That's what we're talking about. What policies of theirs were better than Trump’s and what Trump policies are you against?
Policies are what we vote for. So, specifically, what policies of Harris' and what policies of Biden’s made you choose them over Trump’s policies?
You can't go by suppositions.
For example. Border policies. Biden's were detrimental to our country and Harris was going to continue them.
I can give many more examples of policy of why I voted for Trump, but I asked you for examples of policy.
A candidate could punch puppies all day while watching porn in the oval office, for all I care. I want to know policy and what those policies do for America.
Now...Can you give me examples of policies, besides ones that already exist and you assume would get better?
Since the ACA, (forced insurance on everyone) healthcare costs have gone up and we're footing the bill for illegal aliens.
But you already said you think it would get better under Harris though she didn't even talk about it during her campaign.
Whatever, what were hers and Biden’s policies that you felt were better than Trump’s?
Wrong again. And what you say in private, or among friends, is your business. You can swear like a sailor for all I care. How you present yourself in PUBLIC is an entirely different matter. You clearly haven’t learned the difference. No one respects a person with potty mouth. Plain and simple. And given your proud military heritage, why do you support a president who dodged the draft and calls our fallen heroes LOSERS? How do you reconcile that one?
Here are my exact words, “For me, the choice came down to a few things. Personal character, integrity, professionalism, leadership, international statesmanship, and respect for others.” It wasn’t about policy. I was fully willing to wait 4 years of status quo until someone better came along. Capiche?
This is a message board discussing politics dumbass. I wouldn't talk like this at @atlkvb church if he invited me. You do it too only in a passive aggressive little ***** way.
Second Trump was elected President and that makes him Commander in Chief. He didn't dodge the draft because he wasn't medically qualified with flat feet. As any who served on Recruiting Duty knows. Most importantly his Administration had done alot to take care of Veterans compared to Obama/Biden.
Most importantly you never served and then attempted to lie about a Major who was violating article 133 of the UCMJ. Thankfully we can file that under something that never happened.
You voted for Obama so congratulations on this milestone.
307,000 veterans may have died awaiting Veterans Affairs health care, report says
I didn’t lie about ANYTHING, you just choose not to believe it. It doesn’t fit your agenda. I personally never served but as a defense/aerospace contractor for over 18 years, I worked side-by-side, many times in the field, with many who did. And my father was a decorated WW2 Naval Aviator. So I have great respect for those who served, but it doesn’t give you, them, or anyone else, the right to be a complete jackass in public. Your limited and vulgar vocabulary speaks volumes about your education, or lack thereof.
And you conveniently dodged the part about you voting for a president who called our fallen heroes, LOSERS!! I can’t believe you don’t find that completely appalling because I sure do. It was flat out disgusting. ESPECIALLY as the Commander in Chief. He should have been disqualified to serve for that comment alone.
You lied and he never called our troops losers. Matter of fact he's always gone out of his way to treat them with respect. Especially the junior enlisted.
I get it you like to repeat lies the MSM and disgruntled Former Officers make up. But the Truth is you don't know anything about how the military really works. He's very popular with the majority of them and no amount of crying from you is going to change that. So no coup this time around and you can suck on that fact.
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So if Trump had those qualities, yet was a communist, you'd be okay with him?
Those aren't policies.
Status quo? 20 million more illegal aliens, drugs, child trafficking, ...etc. flooding our country was better than what's going on now? The hell you say?
You’re right. He called them Losers and Suckers, my bad. How do you feel about how he disparaged Senator John McCain’s military service? Do you deny he called him a loser because he was captured? Or is that fake news , too?
Cheer up. Your DSA buddies are winning elections. It might eventually start a Civil War but that should make you happy.
He didn't that story was fabricated. As far as McCain the Democrats ran the same playbook on him. Me I can separate his service from him as a Senator. Can't say I was a fan of his political career.
Ok, first of all, Joe was not a man of character. Good lord. He dropped out of the 88 Presidential election due to plagiarism.
Obama himself thought Joe was a moron. This is well known.
Biden was a career DC shill, he used his position to profit for his whole family. He was a known liar. Man of character? Pfffft that’s hilarious. He had zero convictions, his vote was for sale, and he’d blow with the wind on positions.
Good lord, there are things you can say positively about Joe Biden, but the adjectives you used to describe him aren’t those.
Worst President in History as well as the worst VP in history. The good news is I'm not confident the American people actually elected him without cheating. So we got that going for us.
Plus the other "lesser of two evils" in '24 not only lacked character (ask Willie Brown) but the one 'presidential' act she (Harris) was placed in sole control of was border Czar & she completely blew it!
Chic only visited the damn border once, and that was for nothing more than a photo op! Professionalism? Statesman? Yeah, Biden called Trump supporters "garbage" but he sure turned the tables on them for that didn't he?Hey Willie B...did Kamala Harris have any "character"?
Are you kiddin' me? Ya'll know I wore that girl out!
How 'bout it Kamala? Did he?
I told you!
How do you figure? Those qualities help communists and dictators. Not all, but there were many communists and dictators with those qualities.
Biden doesn’t have those qualities and Harris is as ignorant as they come.
What about their policies? Give us examples of good policies. Can you?
What policies of Trump’s are you against?
I got a good one @30CAT . Remember, one of the main reasons if not THE reason Trump was re-elected by a landslide in '24 was his promise to close the open border his opponent Kamala (cacklin' Communist) Harris was supposed to be controlling as border Czar?
Remember this....
...and this
...and even this?
We were being invaded! Our border was flung w-i-d-e open with literally millions of folks pouring across unvetted! Trump promised to close that border and deport the illegals. Americans tired of Kamala Harris' "do nothing" policy on the border told Trump: "go ahead".
Now look what we have:
Trump’s $46B ‘smart wall’ races ahead at the border despite low crossing numbers
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“It’s a smart wall. It’s not just a barrier,” Customs and Border Protection Commissioner Rodney Scott said during recent congressional testimony. “It maximizes the use of our most valuable resource, which is our agents.”
Migrant encounters at the U.S.-Mexico border are at their lowest level in more than 50 years
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U.S. Border Patrol encounters with migrants crossing into the United States from Mexico have fallen to their lowest level in more than 50 years, according to a Pew Research Center analysis of statistics from the federal government.
The Border Patrol recorded 237,538 encounters with migrants at the U.S.-Mexico border in the 2025 fiscal year, which began in October 2024 and ended in September 2025. That was down from more than 1.5 million encounters in fiscal 2024, more than 2 million in fiscal 2023 and a record of more than 2.2 million in fiscal 2022. The 2025 total was the lowest in any fiscal year since 1970, according to historical data from the Border Patrol.
Now that's border policy comparison and contrast!
Hey Kamala...why'd you leave that border so wide open when you were border Czar?
OK...guess that explains it!
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I got a good one @30CAT . Remember, one of the main reasons if not THE reason Trump was re-elected by a landslide in '24 was his promise to close the open border his opponent Kamala (cacklin' Communist) Harris was supposed to be controlling as border Czar?
Remember this....
...and this
...and even this?
We were being invaded! Our border was flung w-i-d-e open with literally millions of folks pouring across unvetted! Trump promised to close that border and deport the illegals. Americans tired of Kamala Harris' "do nothing" policy on the border told Trump: "go ahead".
Now look what we have:
Trump’s $46B ‘smart wall’ races ahead at the border despite low crossing numbers
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“It’s a smart wall. It’s not just a barrier,” Customs and Border Protection Commissioner Rodney Scott said during recent congressional testimony. “It maximizes the use of our most valuable resource, which is our agents.”
Migrant encounters at the U.S.-Mexico border are at their lowest level in more than 50 years
excerpt:
U.S. Border Patrol encounters with migrants crossing into the United States from Mexico have fallen to their lowest level in more than 50 years, according to a Pew Research Center analysis of statistics from the federal government.
The Border Patrol recorded 237,538 encounters with migrants at the U.S.-Mexico border in the 2025 fiscal year, which began in October 2024 and ended in September 2025. That was down from more than 1.5 million encounters in fiscal 2024, more than 2 million in fiscal 2023 and a record of more than 2.2 million in fiscal 2022. The 2025 total was the lowest in any fiscal year since 1970, according to historical data from the Border Patrol.
Now that's border policy comparison and contrast!
Hey Kamala...why'd you leave that border so wide open when you were border Czar?
OK...guess that explains it!
Exactly and very good post, my fellow American. That's why the majority of America voted to re-elect Trump.
Cheers is in the minority who thought Harris would make things better. In reality? I really don't think Cheers thinks Harris would have been better. In fact, I think he knows America made the right choice. His hatred won't let him admit it or do what's really best for America. No way in hell one votes for Harris and thinks things would be better. We all know it would have gotten much worse.
Who, but Trump, cares about America more than money? Of course, our founding presidents, but another?
Probably Reagan.
Harris ran on nothing but hating Trump, same as Biden. That's why Cheers can't name policy. Period. Neither had policy other than open borders and hating Trump. That's why when I or anyone asks Cheers, he can't answer.
As you are well aware, because I've seen you ask too, the conversation is over when you want to talk policies with those on the left.
If Harris ran on the same policies as Trump, personality be damned, I'd vote for her. There's nothing Trump could do to get those with TDS to vote for him
Their team is the Democrat party. Our team is America. That's why we vote policy and they don't.
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How can you say Biden had personal character? How can you say kamala had integrity or leadership and international statesman.... its no secret Biden is a habitual lier and got his son appointed to burisma and kamala slept her way up in California...
Policies dont matter. All emotions
I made sure that girl was wore out before she did anything else!
Well she really couldn't do anything else until you wore her out right Willie B?
ha...ha...ha...well you know atl...it just do what it do, know what I'm sayin?
He really rocked 'yo world didn't he Kamala?
If you can’t “honestly” say that you can’t see how ridiculous your question was, then you are a fricken moron. And I KNOW that I’d NOT the case. You are simply playing games. How about we have BOTH. A strong leader AND someone of High Quality and High, Upstanding Character? Is that asking too much out of our President? The supposed leader of the Free World. I don’t think so. Please stop with the nonsense.
How can you say that a man who has profited ENORMOUSLY from his office, (Trump Coins, Trump Bible, Trump Crypto, tax cuts for the rich, etc) is looking out for the best interest of ALL Americans, and not just his family and friends?
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If you idiots stop the lawfare against him he wouldn't need to keep making money. Maybe he should start keeping his salary instead of donating it.
If you idiots stop the lawfare against him he wouldn't need to keep making money. Maybe he should start keeping his salary instead of donating it.
Why do you keep avoiding my comments regarding Donny’s treatment of Fallen Hero’s and Lt. Cmdr John McCain. Navy Pilot and War HERO. His comments regarding both are disgraceful yet you ignore them. He called them Losers and Suckers. This coming from a man who has never served and grew up with a Silver Spoon in his mouth. Who comes from a family who has NEVER served a day in the military yet calls them Losers and Suckers. Yet THEY have profited BILLIONS from the FREEDOM this country provides.
Please tell me how you can support such a SCUMBAG that thinks So Little of the men and women who have served and died for this country? MANY politicians have funded the military. That doesn’t give them the Right, nor the privilege, to INSULT and DISPARAGE those that served. F Him. WTF is wrong with you? I ashamed for you. Maybe you are a SUCKER and a LOSER.
Say What?? Gunny, you are the epitome of the term CLUELESS. There are no words to describe how far gone you are. You are literally In LOVE with a politician. In your clouded eyes, he can do no wrong. Logic does not work with you. Only conspiracies and lies. Donny is a victim, poor baby. Good Lord you are beyond belief. God Bless You.
Your comments are nonsense you heard watching Morning Joe. If you want to spend your time repeating lies knock yourself out. I'm pretty confident your effort isn't going to affect the 2024 Presidential Election. Trump won in a landslide.
Look at attacking a Combat Veteran and Retired Disabled Marine. Weren't you just complaining Trump did that? I don't have thin skin but I will take the opportunity to point out you are a hypocrite.
Again, you are Completely Clueless and In LOVE with a politician. You’ve got your head so far up his *** that I’m surprised you can even breathe. I have NEVER in my 65 years EVER seen such BLIND LOYALTY to a politician. The ONLY man who has earned and deserves such praise and devotion is JESUS. Your priorities are SO WHACK it’s ridiculous. Some day you will realize you’ve been worshipping a False God. And on that day, it will be too late. Good Night.
Here's some "real" character putting America first!
Bidens Used Web of Shell Companies to Conceal Foreign Cash, Bank Records Obtained by House GOP Reveal
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The Biden family and its business associates created a complicated web of more than 20 companies, according to bank records obtained by the House Oversight Committee — a system, GOP lawmakers say, that was meant to conceal money received from foreign nationals. Sixteen of the companies were limited liability companies formed during Joe Biden’s tenure as vice president, the committee said in a press conference on Wednesday. The Biden family, their business associates, and their companies received more than $10 million from foreign nationals’ and their related companies, the records show.
Hey creepy Joe...did you know about all of these "shell" companies selling your office to the highest Foreign bidders?
Who me??? I sure as Hell don't remember any of that, but maybe @Cheers does?
Nah...he's much too "moderate" to remember any of that
How the ‘Biden brand’ was used to rake in $30 million for Joe and the first family
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Joe Biden was “central in his family’s moneymaking scheme,” according to the year-long congressional investigation led by Rep. James Comer, who claims he found nearly $30 million funneled into the first family’s accounts. In his new book, Comer (R-Ky.) details how Biden’s son Hunter and brother Jim peddled the “Biden Brand” to foreign governments and entrepreneurs in order to rake in cash.
“We know the bank records show that nearly $20 million in payments were directed to the Biden family members and associates through various shell companies.”
Biden Inc: How middle class Joe's family cashed in on the family name
So much "character"....kinda makes 'ya wonder why Dems unceremoniously kicked his crooked azz to the curb in '24?
Hey I resent that!
Bidens Used Web of Shell Companies to Conceal Foreign Cash, Bank Records Obtained by House GOP Reveal
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The Biden family and its business associates created a complicated web of more than 20 companies, according to bank records obtained by the House Oversight Committee — a system, GOP lawmakers say, that was meant to conceal money received from foreign nationals. Sixteen of the companies were limited liability companies formed during Joe Biden’s tenure as vice president, the committee said in a press conference on Wednesday. The Biden family, their business associates, and their companies received more than $10 million from foreign nationals’ and their related companies, the records show.
Hey creepy Joe...did you know about all of these "shell" companies selling your office to the highest Foreign bidders?
Who me??? I sure as Hell don't remember any of that, but maybe @Cheers does?
Nah...he's much too "moderate" to remember any of that
How the ‘Biden brand’ was used to rake in $30 million for Joe and the first family
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Joe Biden was “central in his family’s moneymaking scheme,” according to the year-long congressional investigation led by Rep. James Comer, who claims he found nearly $30 million funneled into the first family’s accounts. In his new book, Comer (R-Ky.) details how Biden’s son Hunter and brother Jim peddled the “Biden Brand” to foreign governments and entrepreneurs in order to rake in cash.
“We know the bank records show that nearly $20 million in payments were directed to the Biden family members and associates through various shell companies.”
Biden Inc: How middle class Joe's family cashed in on the family name
So much "character"....kinda makes 'ya wonder why Dems unceremoniously kicked his crooked azz to the curb in '24?
Hey I resent that!
WTF are you talking about? Are you that person? I wish you well. And if Donny called you a Loser, I’d be just as angry.