Race relations in the WNBA

Lurker123

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ha, basically!

Jemele Hill said of Clark in 2024: "We would all be very naive if we didn't say race and her sexuality played a role in her popularity,"

So, we can say Clark's race and sexuality play a significant role in making her popular but if you suggest her race and sexuality play a factor in how she's treated in the league by other players, well then you're a nut job.

We all know that only white athletes have been popular. Jordan, Lebron, Mahomes, Tiger, Steph, Serena, Kobe, Shohei (unless anyone non-black is considered white...which is usually the case).

Agreed.

I have to laugh.

"You only like her because she's white (or straight) in a black dominated sport"

Actually I think she's hated because shes white (or straight) in a black dominated sport.

"How dare you bring race and sexual preferences into this!"
 

PrestonyteParrot

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Dumb business decisions have become the norm for some in the era of wokeness with many glaring examples.
The WNBA is intentionally thumbing their noses at a golden opportunity to expand their audience viewership and attendance and make a huge positive impact on the league's bottom line. The question remains to be answered if this is the true goal of the owners/investors. This could be accomplished by simply enforcing existing rules by deterring rule breaking with meaningful punishment but ideology is getting in the way of common sense justice. It's easy to see that this business behavior is a mirror image of societal behavior regarding the way the current justice system is operating.
 

CoachX90

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The black girls of the W have made it a racial issue. Not seeing that is ignorant. Remember the face Plum made when Asia said Caitlin was from white privilege. How stupid can you be to a) say that to another white girl and b) think no one is going to know you also came from a privileged family. I don't watch any of it. I'm tired of hearing people talk about it. It is an embarrassment to all things American. Also leaving her off the poster is an extreme slap in the face. Just come out and say we don't like you but we are going to use you to make money and create controversy because in America racism and controversy equals money.
You have no idea what white privilege is based on this response....like at all. I'm legitimately not trying to be funny, but I don't know how you argue against it as a concept. Caitlin's issue with the rest of the players is that she's not particularly likable. She pushes off then flops, constantly complains, takes bad shots & shoots terrible from the field, turns it over as much as any player I've ever seen, & has still gotten undue praise for it. She's not necessarily the best player on her own team but gets coverage like the best in the world. Throw that in a pot and as a competitor I'd be ticked off too
 

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You have no idea what white privilege is based on this response....like at all. I'm legitimately not trying to be funny, but I don't know how you argue against it as a concept. Caitlin's issue with the rest of the players is that she's not particularly likable. She pushes off then flops, constantly complains, takes bad shots & shoots terrible from the field, turns it over as much as any player I've ever seen, & has still gotten undue praise for it. She's not necessarily the best player on her own team but gets coverage like the best in the world. Throw that in a pot and as a competitor I'd be ticked off too
Baloney. Every word of this post is false

White privelege lol. Enough of the wite privelege bit friend, that ship has sailed; trotting that out just makes you look bad,
 

Cockofdawn

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You have no idea what white privilege is based on this response....like at all. I'm legitimately not trying to be funny, but I don't know how you argue against it as a concept. Caitlin's issue with the rest of the players is that she's not particularly likable. She pushes off then flops, constantly complains, takes bad shots & shoots terrible from the field, turns it over as much as any player I've ever seen, & has still gotten undue praise for it. She's not necessarily the best player on her own team but gets coverage like the best in the world. Throw that in a pot and as a competitor I'd be ticked off too
You talking about LEBRON?
 

18IsTheMan

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You have no idea what white privilege is based on this response....like at all. I'm legitimately not trying to be funny, but I don't know how you argue against it as a concept. Caitlin's issue with the rest of the players is that she's not particularly likable. She pushes off then flops, constantly complains, takes bad shots & shoots terrible from the field, turns it over as much as any player I've ever seen, & has still gotten undue praise for it. She's not necessarily the best player on her own team but gets coverage like the best in the world. Throw that in a pot and as a competitor I'd be ticked off too
Angel Reese is one of the worst players in the WNBA but she's one the most popular...even getting the cover of the WNBA video game.

Black privilege?
 
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CoachX90

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Angel Reese is one of the worst players in the WNBA but she's one the most popular...even getting the cover of the WNBA video game.

Black privilege?
You're deflecting. She's popular because the women's game fanbase is built in college and she's a national champ, mercurial personality, has a "rivalry" with Caitlin Clark, and has an elite quality in her game. Willful ignorance is really something. Saying that Clark benefits from something doesn't discredit what she's actually done or her skillset.
 

18IsTheMan

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Smart observation. The stats are very interesting looking at the top 10 rebounder's ORB's vs DRB's numbers.
Reese is the only one close to even. 4 attempts to put back your own layup attempt will do that.

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From the highlights I've seen, rebounding is not at much of a skill in the WNBA as in the NBA (think Dennis Rodman). It always looks like a bunch of kids playing Upwards basketball just having a free-for-all until someone comes down with the ball.
 

rgamecock1

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Take cc off the court and the WNBA and see how long the WNBA last. Call it like it is the blacks do not like it that a white female has taken over basketball. No black female player even comes close to CC. Not even A'JA. Sorry the truth is the truth.
 
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Lurker123

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Take cc off the court and the WNBA and see how long the WNBA last.

In reality, the wnba could last another 30 years if got rid of cc and every other starter in the league. They have the NBA to bankroll them. They never have to make money for themselves.
 

kidrobinski

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Take cc off the court and the WNBA and see how long the WNBA last. Call it like it is the blacks do not like it that a white female has taken over basketball. No black female player even comes close to CC. Not even A'JA. Sorry the truth is the truth.
It’s quite unsettling to watch sometimes.
 

CreekSnake

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It appears the WNBA is the ultimate DEI institution.The reason the WNBA would survive is the same reason the Women’s National Soccer Tesm is getting a 50% split or the Men’s World Cup money.
 

Piscis

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Take cc off the court and the WNBA and see how long the WNBA last. Call it like it is the blacks do not like it that a white female has taken over basketball. No black female player even comes close to CC. Not even A'JA. Sorry the truth is the truth.
The WNBA is women's WWE on hardwood. Like all things involving females, it thrives on drama. CC is the golden child for white fans and the devil for black fans, she is the perfect character in the WNBA drama. Sophie Cunningham provides the pretty, tough girl character and the black girls bring the ghetto, sassy black women group.

I don't know why they keep score other than to try and make it appear to be legitimate.
 

JohnnySolo

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You have no idea what white privilege is based on this response....like at all. I'm legitimately not trying to be funny, but I don't know how you argue against it as a concept. Caitlin's issue with the rest of the players is that she's not particularly likable. She pushes off then flops, constantly complains, takes bad shots & shoots terrible from the field, turns it over as much as any player I've ever seen, & has still gotten undue praise for it. She's not necessarily the best player on her own team but gets coverage like the best in the world. Throw that in a pot and as a competitor I'd be ticked off too
Then I guess that makes you ignorant. She is hated because a predominately black participation sport has been around for years and no one cared. Then she came along and now people care and are fans of hers. It could have been anyone really, but she brought in a demographic that didn't exist and is hated for it. Jealousy is a hell of drug.
 

Swifty

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Take cc off the court and the WNBA and see how long the WNBA last. Call it like it is the blacks do not like it that a white female has taken over basketball. No black female player even comes close to CC. Not even A'JA. Sorry the truth is the truth.
This is flat out wrong. Clark is 5th in the league in scoring and 2nd in assists. A'ja is 1st in points, 1st in blocks, 3rd in rebounds and 7th in steals. A'ja is undeniably the best player in the WNBA and it's not really close. Clark is a nice player that still has a lot of work to do.
 
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Piscis

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This is flat out wrong. Clark is 5th in the league in scoring and 2nd in assists. A'ja is 1st in points, 1st in blocks, 3rd in rebounds and 7th in steals. A'ja is undeniably the best player in the WNBA and it's not really close. Clark is a nice player that still has a lot of work to do.
I don't think many people are going to crappy basketball games to see A'ja. Lots of people are going to see CC.

WNBA isn't going anywhere, it has "protected status". The NBA will continue to pay the woke tax and keep the WNBA alive, even if the WNBA is playing in empty arenas.
 

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Angel Reese is one of the worst players in the WNBA but she's one the most popular...even getting the cover of the WNBA video game.

Black privilege?
That's like saying Dennis Rodman was one of the worst players in the NBA. Not much of on offensive threat, but a demon on defense and the boards.
 

stu1cocks

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You guys must not watch actual games, just Youtube force feeds that make Clark and Cunningham (oh, Lexie Hull too) as the only players worth watching. There is some white privilege for you. Sophie isn't even a starter!
I don't personally believe Clark is the best player in the WNBA by any means. She is the most popular and probably the most hated player, both of which are worth their weight in gold by the way. Here's where the rubber meets the road for me. In 2023, the Fever averaged 4,067 folks a game. In 2024 (Clark's rookie season), they averaged 17,036. It's not about who's the best, its about who's the biggest. Show me another player in any sport who had that big of an impact. Yes, I know the baseline was super low, but still...
 

JohnnySolo

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Tiger in PGA. I'm sure there was some pushback, but everyone eventually realized he was going to improve PGA. Was accepted and loved by all fans, which by the way are mostly white. Difference between reason and hate.
 

CoachX90

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Take cc off the court and the WNBA and see how long the WNBA last. Call it like it is the blacks do not like it that a white female has taken over basketball. No black female player even comes close to CC. Not even A'JA. Sorry the truth is the truth.
I'm calling it like it is. You're right, she's taken over basketball even though she's not the best player by any means. Are you going to address the elephant in the room as to why that is? Was anyone outraged when Breanna Stewart won MVP as a white woman? No, because it was deserved. She's absolutely elevated the profile of the league, but why her & not who is maybe the best player in league history (A'ja)?
 

CoachX90

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Tiger in PGA. I'm sure there was some pushback, but everyone eventually realized he was going to improve PGA. Was accepted and loved by all fans, which by the way are mostly white. Difference between reason and hate.
So why was there pushback to begin with for Tiger?