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Bulldog Bruce

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In our match last night right before half there was an actual serious collision at mid field. USA player goes down and is down for quite awhile. He gets up and is pretty wobbly, but with the limited subs he gets ready to continue playing. The Ref gets in face and points him to the sideline. Seems he had to stand out of play for a minute where he would miraculously recover from his concussion in that amount of time. He runs back onto the field after the minute is up and finishes the half.

With the concerns on concussions in sport seems there would be something in the rules to allow for a substitution that would not count as part of the sub limit to protect players from themselves. In the NFL that guy would go under the blue tent and an independent doctor would have to give an okay for him to return.
 

patdog

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In league matches you are allowed a free concussion substitute. Not sure about World Cup. But despite everything they say no sport is serious about keeping players from playing with concussions. They “evaluate” the player, which should take 30-60 minutes at least, in about 90 seconds & decide he’s ok.
 

dogmatic001

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You can't tell with soccer players because they flop around and act like they were hit by a car at the slightest hint of contact.

I think it's this tendency alone that is impeding my attempts to appreciate soccer.

I am making an honest attempt to learn to appreciate soccer, to see the action away from the ball, see the strategies in motion and whatnot. I can stand the flop in basketball, though I do get tired of it when it's taken to the Mario Austin extremes, but the wallowing around on the ground, screaming and crying jags soccer players put on is just too much. Anyone hauled off the field on a stretcher shouldn't be seen or heard from again for at least a month, IMO.

Pretending to be fouled is part of any game -- squalling like a four-year-old having a temper tantrum is just too much.
 

mstateglfr

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- Seems he had to stand out of play for a minute where he would miraculously recover from his concussion in that amount of time. He runs back onto the field after the minute is up and finishes the half.

- In the NFL that guy would go under the blue tent and an independent doctor would have to give an okay for him to return.

Looks like you just proved that soccer players are tougher than football players.**
 
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Maroon Pug

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You can't tell with soccer players because they flop around and act like they were hit by a car at the slightest hint of contact.

Yet another reason among many why I don't like soccer.
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dog99walker

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In soccer, you hurt the other team when you can get the ref to yellow card your opponent. He can no longer grab your shirt with a card. Two yellows make a red card and the other team plays with 10, rather than 11, like we had to last night. As a former soccer coach, it is hard to keep a lead with 10. Last night, was a great effort by the US players to actually gain a point. Do flopping is not going to go away, soon.
 
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In our match last night right before half there was an actual serious collision at mid field. USA player goes down and is down for quite awhile. He gets up and is pretty wobbly, but with the limited subs he gets ready to continue playing. The Ref gets in face and points him to the sideline. Seems he had to stand out of play for a minute where he would miraculously recover from his concussion in that amount of time. He runs back onto the field after the minute is up and finishes the half.

With the concerns on concussions in sport seems there would be something in the rules to allow for a substitution that would not count as part of the sub limit to protect players from themselves. In the NFL that guy would go under the blue tent and an independent doctor would have to give an okay for him to return.
If you stay on the ground for a long enough time they make you go stand out of play for 1 minute. I think they did that as a way to get rid of a lot of the over the top flopping. (Yes I realize players still flop. I know it’s annoying. ).
 

She Mate Me

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I think I understand why the flopping and writhing around evolved. Having a single ref actually running that huge field with all that action must make it hard for all the fouls to get noticed. Probably often need to make a fuss to get a whistle.

it’s still annoying as hell.
 

Bulldog Bruce

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If you stay on the ground for a long enough time they make you go stand out of play for 1 minute. I think they did that as a way to get rid of a lot of the over the top flopping. (Yes I realize players still flop. I know it’s annoying. ).
That's a legitimate thought, but that means the assumption is that the player is flopping. If you assume they are injured and remove him from the game with a free sub, that would more likely limit flopping. So if you hit the ground to where trainers come out, you come out.

There is a problem with that idea also in that the other team my try to hurt you enough to force a player out so there could now be a VAR review to see if there was contact that could have caused the need for a trainer to look at it.
 
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TXDawg.sixpack

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In our match last night right before half there was an actual serious collision at mid field. USA player goes down and is down for quite awhile. He gets up and is pretty wobbly, but with the limited subs he gets ready to continue playing. The Ref gets in face and points him to the sideline. Seems he had to stand out of play for a minute where he would miraculously recover from his concussion in that amount of time. He runs back onto the field after the minute is up and finishes the half.

With the concerns on concussions in sport seems there would be something in the rules to allow for a substitution that would not count as part of the sub limit to protect players from themselves. In the NFL that guy would go under the blue tent and an independent doctor would have to give an okay for him to return.
Even worse than that was when BIH's goalie got kneed in the head, was down for 5+ minutes and never had to go off the field. The inconsistency last night was ridiculous!
 
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mstateglfr

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Football players don't want to come out either. That's why they have the rules to try and protect them from themselves. Nice Try.
I put ** in there because it wasn’t a serious comment.

I guess I can also put /s after the comment to make it even more clear that the comment was sarcastic…but that could be seen as double sarcastic and cancel the first sarcastic notation out like a reverse Uno card.
 

Bulldog Bruce

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I put ** in there because it wasn’t a serious comment.

I guess I can also put /s after the comment to make it even more clear that the comment was sarcastic…but that could be seen as double sarcastic and cancel the first sarcastic notation out like a reverse Uno card.
I know
 

Seinfeld

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In our match last night right before half there was an actual serious collision at mid field. USA player goes down and is down for quite awhile. He gets up and is pretty wobbly, but with the limited subs he gets ready to continue playing. The Ref gets in face and points him to the sideline. Seems he had to stand out of play for a minute where he would miraculously recover from his concussion in that amount of time. He runs back onto the field after the minute is up and finishes the half.

With the concerns on concussions in sport seems there would be something in the rules to allow for a substitution that would not count as part of the sub limit to protect players from themselves. In the NFL that guy would go under the blue tent and an independent doctor would have to give an okay for him to return.
I know this wasn’t really the point of your post, but I’ll say it anyway. There isn’t professional league in existence that genuinely cares about concussions. They care about the lawsuits surrounding them
 

L4Dawg

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In our match last night right before half there was an actual serious collision at mid field. USA player goes down and is down for quite awhile. He gets up and is pretty wobbly, but with the limited subs he gets ready to continue playing. The Ref gets in face and points him to the sideline. Seems he had to stand out of play for a minute where he would miraculously recover from his concussion in that amount of time. He runs back onto the field after the minute is up and finishes the half.

With the concerns on concussions in sport seems there would be something in the rules to allow for a substitution that would not count as part of the sub limit to protect players from themselves. In the NFL that guy would go under the blue tent and an independent doctor would have to give an okay for him to return.
There are already too many subs. It needs to go back to the pre-Covid three. There was a time, and it wasn’t that long ago, when there were no subs. You named 11 and that’s who played. You can video of old matches on YouTube where guys look and Move like they have been shot several times still out there trying to play.
 

L4Dawg

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Even worse than that was when BIH's goalie got kneed in the head, was down for 5+ minutes and never had to go off the field. The inconsistency last night was ridiculous!
That is standard procedure for keepers. There is nothing inconsistent about it.
 

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I’m sure the rest of the world dreads this every four years, Americans who never pay much attention to soccer coming out of the woodwork telling them how to fix their game. It’s about like them trying to tell us how to fix baseball or our football, and they do.
 

patdog

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There are already too many subs. It needs to go back to the pre-Covid three. There was a time, and it wasn’t that long ago, when there were no subs. You named 11 and that’s who played. You can video of old matches on YouTube where guys look and Move like they have been shot several times still out there trying to play.
I actually like the relaxed substitutions rule. I think it makes for a better game & helps prevent overusing players.
 

She Mate Me

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I’m sure the rest of the world dreads this every four years, Americans who never pay much attention to soccer coming out of the woodwork telling them how to fix their game. It’s about like them trying to tell us how to fix baseball or our football, and they do.

Yeah, the fans of the world seem to be having a miserable time here in North America with all us idiots.

(In the interest of heading off confusion, this post is intended to be mildly sarcastic)
 

L4Dawg

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Yeah, the fans of the world seem to be having a miserable time here in North America with all us idiots.

(In the interest of heading off confusion, this post is intended to be mildly sarcastic)
That has nothing to do with what you replied to all.
 

Del B Vista

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Pulisic was trying to tell the ref Adams didn't need to go off because he was evaluated for a head injury on the field by the training staff. He was right, ref was wrong.
 

Bulldog Bruce

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I know this wasn’t really the point of your post, but I’ll say it anyway. There isn’t professional league in existence that genuinely cares about concussions. They care about the lawsuits surrounding them
I know. That's exactly why it is silly to not protect the player from himself.

I'm an old school guy. I come from rub some dirt on it and get out there. That's just not the world anymore.
 

TXDawg.sixpack

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Goalkeepers get all the time they need & are not required to come out. For obvious reasons.
Again, stupid and inconsistent rules. In the NFL or D1 Football, should the quarterback not be subject to standard injury/concussion protocols; for “obvious reasons”?

If you’re hurt/concussed, you‘re hurt/concussed regardless of the position you play.
 

horshack.sixpack

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In our match last night right before half there was an actual serious collision at mid field. USA player goes down and is down for quite awhile. He gets up and is pretty wobbly, but with the limited subs he gets ready to continue playing. The Ref gets in face and points him to the sideline. Seems he had to stand out of play for a minute where he would miraculously recover from his concussion in that amount of time. He runs back onto the field after the minute is up and finishes the half.

With the concerns on concussions in sport seems there would be something in the rules to allow for a substitution that would not count as part of the sub limit to protect players from themselves. In the NFL that guy would go under the blue tent and an independent doctor would have to give an okay for him to return.
Players loses their helmet on the play. Step off the field for a play.
 

patdog

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Again, stupid and inconsistent rules. In the NFL or D1 Football, should the quarterback not be subject to standard injury/concussion protocols; for “obvious reasons”?

If you’re hurt/concussed, you‘re hurt/concussed regardless of the position you play.
You’re comparing apples to oranges here. They’re just not the same or even close.
 
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