Active Duty Major calls for Trump to be impeached and removed

[alaskanseminole]

Super. When you break those rules you're removed and lose your pension. Not arrested for speaking your opinion. Put some emotions back into maybe and you'll see how absurd it is

He wasn't arrested for speaking his opinon; he was arrested by Capitol police after refusing orders to leave the Capitol steps while holding a sign demanding the impeachment of the Trump and Vance. Once he's back on base, he'll likely be apprehended bySecurity Forces.

Apprehension is the military equivalent of an arrest. It's defined in Article 7, Uniform Code of Military Justice as "the taking of a person into custody." Military police, commanders, and certain other authorized personnel can apprehend a servicemember.

If a military member's actions are severe enough to warrant loss of rank and forfeiture of pay and benefits, that action isn't going to come via email. The indicidual will like be apprehended pending a military court martial.

You may not like my answers, but they're really not mine. Just quoting facts to the best of my ability.

 

[Huey Grey 2]

Here's the gd president telling generals in uniforms that Democratically run cities are the enemy and then demanding to know why the generals weren't giving him political rally level applause afterwards.

Thoughts Alaska and Ragnarok?

Trump directs generals to defend US from 'war from within'

The president lamented about the lack of applause from the crowd.

abcnews.com

 

[alaskanseminole]

Put some emotions back into maybe and you'll see how absurd it is

I typically don't find things absurd when I go in fully knowing what they are. I've known that his actions violated the USMJ since I was 19, so it's really no shock.

The military isn't really for everyone.

 

[dpic73]

Or fire all top leaders who are women or black? This is precisely the time to do what this Major did. Period

Exactly and not only women and blacks but their most respected top brass who might not go along with illegal orders. It's disgusting that we're allowing this weekend FoxNews anchor to dismantle our military into something unrecognizable.

Pete Hegseth’s purges claim one of the military’s superstars​

Gen. Christopher Donahue heads into early retirement as the defense secretary seeks to root out MAGA disloyalty.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2026/06/29/hegseth-purge-gen-christopher-donahue-is-unjust/

 

[tarheelbybirth1]

Super. When you break those rules you're removed and lose your pension. Not arrested for speaking your opinion. Put some emotions back into maybe and you'll see how absurd it is

To be precise, it’s against the law for anyone other than members of Congress to protest where the major did. He knew that. When Rep. Green walked away, Major Watson walked up the stairs and held up his sign. When officers approached, he put the sign down and put his hands behind his back. It is the point of civil disobedience to provoke a reaction and, more importantly, to not resist. The major knew exactly what he was doing.

 

[alaskanseminole]

Here's the gd president telling generals in uniforms that Democratically run cities are the enemy and then demanding to know why the generals weren't giving him political rally level applause afterwards.

Thoughts Alaska and Ragnarok?

Trump directs generals to defend US from 'war from within'

The president lamented about the lack of applause from the crowd.

abcnews.com

Awesome. What does that have to do with what this Major did in uniform? Again, if you don't like what happened to it, take the fight to Congress to have the rules changed. I didn't write them, but I sure as heck followed them when I was on active duty.

He's 100% entitled to do what he did, but there will be consequences. If he's a sworn officer (which is actually much worse than if he were a non-commissioned officer), then he most likely knew the ramifications going in. If that's his choice, then good on him.

 

[WDDT]

Or maybe.....



"Active duty to unemployment office, chair force officer makes major mistake".


It's a bit wordy though.

 

[alaskanseminole]

The major knew exactly what he was doing.

I tend to agree. If this is the path he's chosen, then hats off. If I'm being honest, he's braver than I would have been. No way I'd put my family at risk; maybe that's prioritizing or cowardace. At least I can be honest. Heck, I'd venture to say the majority of us on here are really nothing more than opinionated, armchair quarterbacks--myself included.

This guy at least has the balls to publically take a stand for what he believes. Even if I didn't agree w/ his message, I'd have to commend him for that.

 

[Ghee Buttersnaps 2]

Live shot at Huey in this thread.

 

[tarheelbybirth1]

If that's his choice, then good on him.

Understand, he 100% absolutely, without a doubt, understands the consequences. That’s not even a question worth asking at this point. The entire encounter was planned to end exactly as it did. You can either admire what he did or not but he most certainly isn’t some dupe who didn’t understand what he was doing. I admire him.

 

[alaskanseminole]

So please explain how Hegseth and Trump can hold political rallies and force active military to attend in uniform?

There's a legal distinction you're glossing over. The President and SECDEF (Secretary of Push-ups) can direct official military meetings, ceremonies, and command addresses (that big dog and pony show with the SECDEF was a command address, btw). Active-duty personnel can be ordered to attend those events in uniform because they're official government functions.

Sure, we all know it's a disguise for their political BS, but legally speaking, it's within their purview.

 

[GesterHawk]

I tend to agree. If this is the path he's chosen, then hats off. If I'm being honest, he's braver than I would have been. No way I'd put my family at risk; maybe that's prioritizing or cowardace. At least I can be honest. Heck, I'd venture to say the majority of us on here are really nothing more than opinionated, armchair quarterbacks--myself included.

This guy at least has the balls to publically take a stand for what he believes. Even if I didn't agree w/ his message, I'd have to commend him for that.

Most of us live in a world where the most we do is call each other some form of v@gina online when we don't agree with each other's politics.

He'll take his licks, but I do hope that eventually history looks back on his act with the respect that it deserves.

 

[alaskanseminole]

Understand, he 100% absolutely, without a doubt, understands the consequences. That’s not even a question worth asking at this point. The entire encounter was planned to end exactly as it did. You can either admire what he did or not but he most certainly isn’t some dupe who didn’t understand what he was doing. I admire him.

IMO, that's a different conversation than those seemingly bumfuzzled that there are consequences for his actions while both tresspassing and in uniform. I appreciate your realization of that and respect your admiration.

 

[RagnarLothbrok]

Am I wrong though?

That this speech is a seminal “Tea Party” moment that will lead to a revolution and meaningful change? Is that your question?

 

[Huey Grey 2]

There's a legal distinction you're glossing over. The President and SECDEF (Secretary of Push-ups) can direct official military meetings, ceremonies, and command addresses (that big dog and pony show with the SECDEF was a command address, btw). Active-duty personnel can be ordered to attend those events in uniform because they're official government functions.

Sure, we all know it's a disguise for their political BS, but legally speaking, it's within their purview.

Name me one other president who has treated troops this way? You say there's precedence. So name one other president who has done what Trump has?

 

[WDDT]

Name me one other president who has treated troops this way? You say there's precedence. So name one other president who has done what Trump has?

What do I get if I win?

 

[Sullivan]

Name me one other president who has treated troops this way? You say there's precedence. So name one other president who has done what Trump has?

Huey is going to suddenly pretend that he cares about the troops

 

[GesterHawk]

That this speech is a seminal “Tea Party” moment that will lead to a revolution and meaningful change? Is that your question?

Moreso that the resistance has to start somewhere.

I actually do, however, see this a a possible first step in a renewal of civil disobedience - the Good Trouble. At least I hope so.

 

[RagnarLothbrok]

Hardly surprising.


Conflating what the major did with the violent actions of those on the right marks you as an idiot here. Care to rethink this remarkably idiotic point?


I thought you said you saw the difference between what the major did and why you do? Did I misread that first comment?


That’s pretty much up to him. You don’t get a say on that one.

You are right. I don’t get a say. And I indeed hope it does prove worth it to him.

My point is this—beyond conflating, equivocating, etc.—why should I be impressed with this guy giving a speech while in uniform? It seems the whole reason he is being applauded is because he was willing to make a point by essentially immolating his career. Bold? Perhaps. But so was the Vietnam war protestor who lit himself on fire outside Robert McNamara’s office.

Courageous? I guess. Patriotic? I don’t know.

What I do know is the time for speeches has come and gone. We need real action within our government and institutions that actually matter. While I am not proposing the dude should have instead gone full Claus von Stauffenberg, at least try to organize something within the government that might actually have teeth. What is that? I don’t know. But I have to believe there are more men in uniform along with other Republicans (beyond nut jobs like MTG) who are everyday growing more disillusioned by the Trump insanity. At some point, especially as Trump’s marbles continue to scatter more by the day, actual intervention is going to be necessary. I really believe that is inevitable. The question is to when and how far it’s going to go before that day comes.

In short, I am tired of speeches. I am tired of reading vague, toss-off Susan Collins level “this is concerning” type drivel from elected officials on the right. Trump is a mad man. And a real existential threat. When someone actually steps up and actually takes action to garner enough support for impeachment charges that lead to an actual conviction or an invoking of 25A, then I will be impressed (to your surprise or not).

Until then, meh.

 

[RagnarLothbrok]

Here's the gd president telling generals in uniforms that Democratically run cities are the enemy and then demanding to know why the generals weren't giving him political rally level applause afterwards.

Thoughts Alaska and Ragnarok?

Trump directs generals to defend US from 'war from within'

The president lamented about the lack of applause from the crowd.

abcnews.com

My thoughts are that the Republican Party (I was once a registered member of) are spineless cowards derelict in their duties to impeach AND convict Trump a long a$$ f#cking time ago.

 

[RoseBowlorBust]

**** these traitors. Acting AG Puppet and the most pathetic Sec Def in our history

Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com)

LMAO -- Acting AG Todd Blanche struggles to deliver a speech to National Guard members in DC over the noise being made by protesters

bsky.app

Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com)

i love this for Stephen Miller

bsky.app

Ron Filipkowski (@ronfilipkowski.bsky.social)

Hegseth showed up late, making troops in uniform wait in 93 degree heat: “To the soldiers here - thank you for waiting out here in the sun. I’m to blame. I had a meeting that went long. I never want to make a formation stand out longer than it has to."...

bsky.app

 

[RagnarLothbrok]

Moreso that the resistance has to start somewhere.

I actually do, however, see this a a possible first step in a renewal of civil disobedience - the Good Trouble. At least I hope so.

You don’t believe the “resistance” started a long time ago? That it’s just “starting”?

 

[GesterHawk]

You don’t believe the “resistance” started a long time ago? That it’s just “starting”?

It is no where near mature enough.

And like I said, acts of civil disobedience have been down and lacking.

We need a movement, not a march.

 

[alaskanseminole]

Name me one other president who has treated troops this way? You say there's precedence. So name one other president who has done what Trump has?

What rabbit are you chasing, Huey.

An active duty officer stood on Capitol grounds and protested while in uniform. There are DoD regulations that prohibit his actions that have been around since long before you or I were born. As @tarheelbybirth1 stated it's pretty clear this was planned and he knew said consequences and is likely willing to accept them.

So whatever else you want to divert this thread to is pretty irrelevant (at least to the singular point I've continued to make with you). Would you like to close that topic and move to something else? It seems that's the case.

Maybe try:
Thank you for explaining the military ramifications for the officer's actions. I would now like to discuss __________________.

 

[Sullivan]

You don’t believe the “resistance” started a long time ago? That it’s just “starting”?

I'm good with the resistance. The more whacky the D party becomes, the better. It should help the R's maintain the House, Senate, and White House in 2026 and 2028.

 

[RagnarLothbrok]

**** these traitors. Acting AG Puppet and the most pathetic Sec Def in our history

Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com)

LMAO -- Acting AG Todd Blanche struggles to deliver a speech to National Guard members in DC over the noise being made by protesters

bsky.app

Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com)

i love this for Stephen Miller

bsky.app

Ron Filipkowski (@ronfilipkowski.bsky.social)

Hegseth showed up late, making troops in uniform wait in 93 degree heat: “To the soldiers here - thank you for waiting out here in the sun. I’m to blame. I had a meeting that went long. I never want to make a formation stand out longer than it has to."...

bsky.app

What are you doing about it, Chis?

 

[alaskanseminole]

What are you doing about it, Chis?

I think that's Tar's point w/ regards to the Major. We're all just armchair QBs on this forum.

...I did write my congressman a few times. Got some staffer's canned response.

 

[RagnarLothbrok]

I think that's Tar's point w/ regards to the Major. We're all just armchair QBs on this forum.

...I did write my congressman a few times. Got some staffer's canned response.

Yeah, I will concede he is bold.

 

[Thefunksouljon]

I typically don't find things absurd when I go in fully knowing what they are. I've known that his actions violated the USMJ since I was 19, so it's really no shock.

The military isn't really for everyone.

Too funny. And true.

There's a legal distinction you're glossing over. The President and SECDEF (Secretary of Push-ups) ..........

By default, they are both political appointees, they aren't actually IN the military. Different rules for different roles.


But credit to you TRYING to explain this to folks. Ive enjoyed.

People with no military experience really don't have much of an idea just how different it is than being a civilian. They say they do, but they really don't. I've seen other posts in the last could of weeks that show the same, I just opted to ignore.

 

[GesterHawk]

I think that's Tar's point w/ regards to the Major. We're all just armchair QBs on this forum.

...I did write my congressman a few times. Got some staffer's canned response.

That is more than most.

 

[Huey Grey 2]

What rabbit are you chasing, Huey.

An active duty officer stood on Capitol grounds and protested while in uniform. There are DoD regulations that prohibit his actions that have been around since long before you or I were born. As @tarheelbybirth1 stated it's pretty clear this was planned and he knew said consequences and is likely willing to accept them.

So whatever else you want to divert this thread to is pretty irrelevant (at least to the singular point I've continued to make with you). Would you like to close that topic and move to something else? It seems that's the case.

Maybe try:
Thank you for explaining the military ramifications for the officer's actions. I would now like to discuss __________________.

I already said he violated the code of conduct. But those violations feel pretty much irrelevant given the climate we are under. Trump has taken an axe to military codes, congressional acts, presidential directives, and an axe to the courts themselves. So expecting compliance for this guy under an administration that doesn't care one but about compliance in any capacity seems silly.

Now are you willing to discuss the far graver violations of conduct of Trump and his lackeys?

 

[Thefunksouljon]

I already said he violated the code of conduct. But those violations feel pretty much irrelevant given the climate we are under. Trump has taken an axe to military codes, congressional acts, presidential directives, and an axe to the courts themselves. So expecting compliance for this guy under an administration that doesn't care one but about compliance in any capacity seems silly.

Now are you willing to discuss the far graver violations of conduct of Trump and his lackeys?

Not how it works in the military. His commission was to the constitution and the country, not the idiot in chief. The climate we are under has nothing to do with his oaths. Why is this so hard for you to grasp?

And @alaskanseminole is only trying to explain this specific person and these specific violations. He isn't trying to defend the larger violations of Trump. And, for the record, Trump doesn't have to follow the same codes of conduct. He isn't in the military. Nor are his lackeys.

 

[Huey Grey 2]

Not how it works in the military. His commission was to the constitution and the country, not the idiot in chief. The climate we are under has nothing to do with his oaths. Why is this so hard for you to grasp?

And @alaskanseminole is only trying to explain this specific person and these specific violations. He isn't trying to defend the larger violations of Trump. And, for the record, Trump doesn't have to follow the same codes of conduct. He isn't in the military. Nor are his lackeys.

Trump is supposed to follow Presidential oaths and presidential codes. And he also swore to uphold the constitution. Yet he does not.

So it's a fair question. Why is the president allowed to violate his codes yet regular active military have no choice but to follow their codes?

Why the blatant double standard?

 

[Thefunksouljon]

Trump is supposed to follow Presidential oaths and presidential codes. And he also swore to uphold the constitution. Yet he does not.

So it's a fair question. Why is the president allowed to violate his codes yet regular active military have no choice but to follow their codes?

Why the blatant double standard?

Well thats not a Q for alaska where he is trying to explain how a commissioned officer is expected to act. That is a question for Congress on why they are not holding the other branch accountable and to the voters who failed to hold Trump accountable in the 2024 election and possibly in the 2026 midterms.

 

[Huey Grey 2]

Well thats not a Q for alaska where he is trying to explain how a commissioned officer is expected to act. That is a question for Congress on why they are not holding the other branch accountable and to the voters who failed to hold Trump accountable in the 2024 election and possibly in the 2026 midterms.

I'm not in disagreement that he violated his conduct. This is now the fourth time I've stated as much.

What I want to know is why the President does not have to follow any conduct?

I get elections and respect elections. Trump does not. He's still fighting his loss in 2020. So it baffles me why you, me, Alaska, and pretty much everyone else on this board is held to a higher standard than our own gd president?

Frankly it pisses me off.

Even today the Olympian who simply fished a piece of the liner in the Reflecting Pool that Trump damage has been indicted for a 10 year charge. All because he can't admit he screwed up. 10 years for someone to excuse Trump's own bad behavior. This is insanity.

So, yeah, I personally don't give two f cks this Major violated his code. I'm glad he did. F ck this president.

 

[tarheelbybirth1]

IMO, that's a different conversation than those seemingly bumfuzzled that there are consequences for his actions while both tresspassing and in uniform. I appreciate your realization of that and respect your admiration.

I read Civil Disobedience by Thoreau in college. Good stuff if you’ve never had the chance.

“Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also a prison”

 

[PW Herman]

Maybe try:
Thank you for explaining the military ramifications for the officer's actions. I would now like to discuss __________________.

We get that you know everything when it comes to the military and their rules. Maybe we were just hoping that you'd grow a sack and say those rules are archaic and outdated. Not just shrug your shoulders and do the "aw shucks, military isn't for everyone" BS.

 

[Ktrain1969]

What do I get if I win?

A HANDY FROM HUEY?

 

[Ktrain1969]

I already said he violated the code of conduct. But those violations feel pretty much irrelevant given the climate we are under. Trump has taken an axe to military codes, congressional acts, presidential directives, and an axe to the courts themselves. So expecting compliance for this guy under an administration that doesn't care one but about compliance in any capacity seems silly.

Now are you willing to discuss the far graver violations of conduct of Trump and his lackeys?

THE WORLD IS NOT FAIR. PHUCK.

 

[Huey Grey 2]

We get that you know everything when it comes to the military and their rules. Maybe we were just hoping that you'd grow a sack and say those rules are archaic and outdated. Not just shrug your shoulders and do the "aw shucks, military isn't for everyone" BS.

If there was even a semblance of rationality it respect from the White House I would agree that troops should stay out if politics.

But there isn't. Trump is burning it all down. So eff him. Violate the codes. Don't in uniform. I'll support it.