Birthright Citizenship

[Gibbs_dontbanmetom]

Truth.



The Supreme Court will rule on birthright citizenship tomorrow morning…

It’s not an exaggeration to say this could be the most important decision in our lifetimes.

Under the current interpretation of the 14th Amendment, a foreign citizen of another nation can cross our border illegally at 9 months pregnant, give birth to an American citizen, and then return home. Their child is now eligible for US benefits and can vote in our elections.

The Chinese can also pay to have surrogate children on US territorial islands in the Pacific, then immediately ship the babies to China to be raised under the CCP. Those children are now eligible for US benefits and can vote in our elections.

Both of these scenarios are happening. It’s simply wrong and not at all what the Amendment was intended for, which was former slaves and their children during Reconstruction.

If it stands, US citizenship means nothing.

I have never understood why this was still a thing. Why are we allowing illegals to have a kid here and then saying that kids an American citizen. Aside from that, who’s paying for the medical bills while that baby is being delivered and/or monitored while it is in the US?

 

[GesterHawk]

I’m genuinely surprised. I figured they would find some way to twist “jurisdiction” into a pretzel.

Someone can not be here unlawfully if they are not under the jurisdiction of the law.

 

[GesterHawk]

Start the slow wheels turning on a constitutional amendment...

There already is one...

 

[hawkeyetraveler]

Someone can not be here unlawfully if they are not under the jurisdiction of the law.

True. I just figured the conservatives would all lean towards the twisted logic espoused by the Alito/Thomas crazy wing of the SC.

 

[GesterHawk]

True. I just figured the conservatives would all lean towards the twisted logic espoused by the Alito/Thomas crazy wing of the SC.

Oh, I figured that they would try to pull some shenanigans, but at the heart of it is if our laws for anything are to apply to anyone here unlawfully then they all have to.

 

[Gibbs_dontbanmetom]

Was fully expecting this to be the decision that came down on this. It is unfortunate, but as they say there is more that one way to skin a cat. Deportations just need to increase rapidly (on track now that 10,000 new ice agents were just on boarded). Get the non-citizens out while their citizen children are young and they'll essentially have to go with them. Not to be crass, but that's going to be the play at this point. It won't deal with all of the problems from this suicidal interpretation but it's better than nothing.

I'm sure congress will work really hard on combating the Chinese baby tourism industry currently in full effect..

Unfortunately those citizen children could return as adults and vote for a person that wants to allow illegals into our country. Technically they are US citizens.

 

[Scrubby]

Brace yourselves, dems will shriek about what comes next

 

[UrHuckleberry]

I have never understood why this was still a thing. Why are we allowing illegals to have a kid here and then saying that kids an American citizen. Aside from that, who’s paying for the medical bills while that baby is being delivered and/or monitored white it is in the US?

Get an amendment passed. We are allowing it because its the law.

 

[hopefultiger13]

I have never understood why this was still a thing. Why are we allowing illegals to have a kid here and then saying that kids an American citizen. Aside from that, who’s paying for the medical bills while that baby is being delivered and/or monitored white it is in the US?

None of that even matters. The law of the land is the Constitution and the Constitution says if you are born on US soil, you are a US citizen. Period. Your arguments are good ones. I'd probably even vote to change the 14th ammendment if we as a country wanted to. Being a country of Laws means you follow the law even when you don't agree with it.

 

[hopefultiger13]

Brace yourselves, dems will shriek about what comes next

Ding ding ding, we have a winner! Normally not a big fan of the tweets as a reference, but this opinion is spot on. You have to fill out a ton of paperwork to come here anyway... Just one more question. I've yet to see hard numbers on this Anchor baby thing, but this is an easy fix.

 

[hawkeyetraveler]

Ding ding ding, we have a winner! Normally not a big fan of the tweets as a reference, but this opinion is spot on. You have to fill out a ton of paperwork to come here anyway... Just one more question. I've yet to see hard numbers on this Anchor baby thing, but this is an easy fix.

I’m guessing this is why Thomas went to Capitol Hill yesterday. Probably telling the speaker he needs to put some legislation together to address the topic another way.

 

[Scrubby]

I’m guessing this is why Thomas went to Capitol Hill yesterday. Probably telling the speaker he needs to put some legislation together to address the topic another way.

Thoughts?

 

[hawkeyetraveler]

Thoughts?

I’m no lawyer, and don’t pretend to be a super legal mind. But since the SC ruled this is a constitutional matter wouldn’t it require a constitutional amendment and not a bill?

I think the most likely GOP path would be to try to bar entry to pregnant foreigners.

 

[TigerGrowls]

I’m no lawyer, and don’t pretend to be a super legal mind. But since the SC ruled this is a constitutional matter wouldn’t it require a constitutional amendment and not a bill?

I think the most likely GOP path would be to try to bar entry to pregnant foreigners.

Multiple parties today stating no. The original case referenced a child born to non citizens that were legally in the US at the time. They can carve out exceptions for non citizens here illegally.

 

[TigerGrowls]