No wonder every other sport at at Rutgers has a hard time getting or keeping traction. Fortunately Keli has more rounded idea of an athletic department.
Greg has one of the lowest win percentages of any active coach
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Well, even before NIL - they had their own version of NIL for years - Nike has been funding them for years.
The problem with the spending- it isn't how much we spend but how much we are NOT earning. And as long as we keep doing what we have been doing, that is not going to change. Also, as a university, more has to be done to keep Alumni engaged in the school. That has been a huge failure for Rutgers over the years.
And even trying to catch up with NIL - we are never going to have fans ponying up as much as many of these other schools- so, Keli is the first AD here that understands this and why she is going hard after the corporate sponsorships.
for the record, my quote about a ww2 approach isn't all about money. we've institutional issues that need to align and we need our, 'this ends now' moment
there is a lot more to than money
just some clarity
Agree about the alumni. Our lacrosse coach does a great job at that, but as a university, it needs to be better. And it needs to start with legacies. They absolutely should get preferential treatment. It's a minute percentage of overall students admitted, and it creates generational family interest. In turn, they donate. That's how most real schools operate. Rutgers can often be their own worst enemy.
I'll never forget- when Kevin finished his football career at Rutgers, his special treatment is that for 5 years, if he purchased a ticket to a game, he could get a sideline pass. Then, they had the 10 year ceremony of the 2006 Louisville Game and half the team didn't even get invited.
If that is the way they treated a starting football player in the NFL, I couldn't imagine how neglected a regular Alumni must be.
This. Just seeing this thread now and I've made this same point countless times. He took over from two of the worst coaches in the history of college football, inheriting terrible teams with poor talent and in the Shea case a program which was in complete shambles, which he rebuilt, resulting in the beautiful stadium we have now and a program worthy of inclusion in the B1G. Doesn't mean he's flawless, as he's made more than his share of coaching gaffes, but he's been a great coach for the players, this program and this university for the most part and has always done things the right way, which still matters to some of us.
That part is on the football staff. I can tell you the lacrosse program operates much differently. Not for nothing though, the Football alumni should want to support the program. Schiano talks a lot about family but once those guys leave it doesn’t sound like many actually help.
unless wrong, that's not on Greg, he has an open door to previous players per SE. My guess is someone at the school or on his staff messed up. I do think we should use the former players to our benefit more like some other schools.
I can't speak to other sports but baseball was pretty much open door however, much of that is dying with all the roster and connected to past persons leave or replaced. JL was great but that was different
this has been addressed here and not entirely accurate on 2.0. Some of Ash's guys were key contributors for Greg and his record was highlighted the last 4yrs of each tenure; still abysmally bad at less than .500 and conference records worse
it's just time to move in a different direction and pump some new energy and life into the program. I fear we're held by Brown more than
I cant speak for the narrative after Shea.
But 8-14 the first two years after Ash isn't necessarily a good excuse, to me.
The main narrative for Schiano 2.0 was "ONLY Schiano" can turn around the team quickly after Ash.
"The team can't afford a 2-3 year rebuild with bad results. ONLY Schiano can turn the team around immediately."
Now the narrative is "oh the team was a disaster. He can’t be held responsible"?
I believe Schiano himself at the time said it wasnt a full rebuild.
Then when he didn't immediately win, he threw the players under the bus as being worse than he expected.
(Something people criticized Ash for doing as well).
But 8-14 the first two years after Ash isn't necessarily a good excuse, to me.
The main narrative for Schiano 2.0 was "ONLY Schiano" can turn around the team quickly after Ash.
"The team can't afford a 2-3 year rebuild with bad results. ONLY Schiano can turn the team around immediately."
Now the narrative is "oh the team was a disaster. He can’t be held responsible"?
I believe Schiano himself at the time said it wasnt a full rebuild.
Then when he didn't immediately win, he threw the players under the bus as being worse than he expected.
(Something people criticized Ash for doing as well).
Greg needs to be held accountable, but as far as a google search shows he did state he was facing a massive rebuild after taking the program over from Ash
>Yes, when Greg Schiano returned to Rutgers as the head football coach in December 2019, he acknowledged facing a massive rebuild. He publicly stated that the program was at "the very bottom" and described the situation as a monumental task, emphasizing that he and his staff would have to build it back from the ground up to compete in the Big Ten.
Schiano noted that returning to the helm would be an even greater challenge than his original turnaround of the program nearly two decades prior. Because the team had fallen on hard times following prior coaching changes, his primary goal from day one was to completely restore the team's culture and work from the foundation. <
I feel Greg did a good job rebuilding the program , but isn't the type of coach that can make it anything more than mainly a pretty good one that will be ( minor) bowl bound post season , but will have some not so good years and not make major bowls or the playoffs on his watch
I can't speak for the new Greg but GS 1.0 had a handful of players he continued to treat like family, and the rest were out of his head the moment they left. When he came back this last time- he actually asked for my son's phone number so he could apologize to him for things that happened during his Rutgers career and after.
As for the School- their complete lack of family to ex players is why many of them really just don't care.
A few months ago I was talking with a former player who was on the 2006 team and played in the NFL. The topic came up about why no former players attend games.
He said the school, athletic dept and Greg don’t care. They make the process extremely difficult and there is a lack of communication to former players. So what you are saying aligns 100% with what he told me.
yep - just think about it - you played 4-5 years and you get a sideline pass for 5 years but only if you purchase a seat. And how hard is it to get the roster of the 2006 team and invite them all to the 10 year celebration.
The ironic and funny thing though - My wife and I had an easier time getting comped tickets after he finished playing then he did. I forget the name of his EA at that time but what a wonderful lady. If my wife or I called, she always had ticket waiting for us...
Executive assistant? That would be my guess.
Another interesting chart. Talent wise in the same category as Illinois, Iowa State, K State, Utah and Duke. They all have 10 more wins over a five year period and sit firmly in the “do more with less” category.
our recruiting classes have always been ranked higher than our production for the most part
To all the Negatoids who killed our program once before STFU!!
In short, Rutgers’ losses have overwhelmingly come against teams that went on to have strong-to-great seasons — a reasonable sign of how brutal the Big Ten East/current Big Ten slate has been for a rebuilding program.
In short, Rutgers’ losses have overwhelmingly come against teams that went on to have strong-to-great seasons — a reasonable sign of how brutal the Big Ten East/current Big Ten slate has been for a rebuilding program.
A ton of real haters on this site. I mean, nasty people. Greg isn’t perfect, far from it, but he’s not as bad as people make him out to be. Rutgers is a TOUGH place to win at. Lots of obstacles. I hope he makes it work going forward.
2024, losses to putrid Wisconsin, UCLA and Nebraska, in year 5 of Greg's tenure. Wisconsin destroyed Rutgers 42-7. These teams were 3-6 in conference.
Year 6 under Greg, the offense was fantastic, but the team went 2-7 in conference
Try to stop being such a Greg cheerleader.
You can keep laughing at my posts cause I don’t give a ****. If you fire Greg, we had better have a much stronger arsenal of NIL $ because if we don’t, we’ll be stuck with another Ash level hire and I’ll be laughing at you as you cry crocodile tears.
You are not very bright. I am not the Rutgers, AD President or the head of the BOG. I can't fire Greg. Excuses, excuses, excuses. The most heavily resourced football coach in Rutgers history. Living in fear of Ash is no way to live. And I don't cry over Rutgers losing. Have a nice 4th.
In terms of showing signs of turning certain elements of the program around, it’s been enough of a mixed bag to at least have some hope that this or next could be the year we finally get everything right at the same time.
The biggest black eye of the 2.0 era (by far) is how long it took to insert an up and coming defensive coaching staff. Rob Smith never should’ve happened, but not fixing that promptly after the season before building a portal class could prove to be the fatal blow. This said - I didn’t think we had the talent to be as servicable as we were on D in Joe’s first few years here. Better coaching does matter, so we’ll see. I personally think we’re in a pretty good place with the offense.
The other major “mistakes” we’ve at least moved on from as a program. GW never should’ve been our starting QB and certainly not as long as he was - but at least the offense is now trending up. Icing the kicker call sucked, and there have been some other headscratching game day calls, but look - if everything else were to click, most fans can probably live with that. If the D basically resembles last year’s unit with only modest improvement we’re going to suck again - in which case Greg’s time should (and likely will) come to an end.
Would love the defense to make a miraculous turnaround and see Rutgers win 8 or 9 games
GS are much like Al Bundy talking about Polk HS and him scoring 4 TDs in the it's Championship. They keep talking about 2006, man that was 20 years ago. When it all said and done the GS family wil have fleece the State of NJ for about 75 million. What a joke, we are gonna build a wall around NJ, keep chopping, every day is a gift, real success is leaving a legacy. His legacy 7 winning seasons out of 17, only has 4 winning conference record out of 17 seasons. But people on here think he is the answer, no other program in the US would be looking for GS to lead them but we just keep drinking the kool aid
There is always hope Schiano will deliver a program worthy to brag about.
But if the 2026 season doesn't go as hoped for, reality should set in and Greg be praised for what he accomplished, but let go for what he did not obtain
But if the 2026 season doesn't go as hoped for, reality should set in and Greg be praised for what he accomplished, but let go for what he did not obtain
Sorry to hear this. This is one thing Miami does very well , and it pays dividends down the road.