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AlexanderUrinis

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Do you know what head-up alignment is?
Once again, I will remind you that I played college ball. OT and OG.

You appear to want to say silly sh't for attention, so I guess congrats on getting this reply.

Feel free to try to convince yourself and anyone that knows nothing about the game that scheme doesn't matter. It absolutely does, hence my comment above.

Incredibly dumb.
 

eyesofhawk

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Once again, I will remind you that I played college ball. OT and OG.

You appear to want to say silly sh't for attention, so I guess congrats on getting this reply.

Feel free to try to convince yourself and anyone that knows nothing about the game that scheme doesn't matter. It absolutely does, hence my comment above.

Incredibly dumb.
You aren't reminding me of anything. First I've heard of your playing days.

I never said scheme doesn't matter.

Do you need a chance to read this thread better, or are you just taking the L now?
 

AlexanderUrinis

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You aren't reminding me of anything. First I've heard of your playing days.

I never said scheme doesn't matter.

Do you need a chance to read this thread better, or are you just taking the L now?
"Scheme and motion do not help an o-lineman displace the guy lined head-up in front of him."

Your (dumb) words.

And now you will move the goalpost so that you can get more attention and have the last word because you are a silly lad that says silly things.
 

Grayhair1981

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Once again, I will remind you that I played college ball. OT and OG.

You appear to want to say silly sh't for attention, so I guess congrats on getting this reply.

Feel free to try to convince yourself and anyone that knows nothing about the game that scheme doesn't matter. It absolutely does, hence my comment above.

Incredibly dumb.
Would you agree that uncertainty and deception deters the front seven of a defense from teeing off and blindly attacking the LOS? That concept is lost on Eyes.
 

eyesofhawk

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"Scheme and motion do not help an o-lineman displace the guy lined head-up in front of him."

Your (dumb) words.

And now you will move the goalpost so that you can get more attention and have the last word because you are a silly lad that says silly things.
Yes, those are my words.

Different than saying scheme doesn't matter, as you've claimed.

And those words you've quoted, have already been proven correct in this thread.

Do you need a chance to read through all that, or do you concede at this point?
 

AlexanderUrinis

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Would you agree that uncertainty and deception deters the front seven of a defense from teeing off and blindly attacking the LOS? That concept is lost on Eyes.
I am ashamed to admit I re-read the initial comment (scheme doesn't matter) several times because it was so shockingly dumb I thought I was having a stroke. Of course I agree with you.
 

Grayhair1981

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I am ashamed to admit I re-read the initial comment (scheme doesn't matter) several times because it was so shockingly dumb I thought I was having a stroke. Of course I agree with you.
Having played the position, would you agree that you have a better chance of executing your assignment if your opponent doesn't know what is coming?
 
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Grayhair1981

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Also has nothing to do with what I've said.

Read better
Except it does. When the guy lined up directly in front of you doesn't know where the ball is going or whether the guy in front of him, in the gap next to him, or someone blindsiding him from two gaps away is who needs his attention, it tends to make him more passive and reactive.
 

eyesofhawk

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Except it does. When the guy lined up directly in front of you doesn't know where the ball is going or whether the guy in front of him, in the gap next to him, or someone blindsiding him from two gaps away is who needs his attention, it tends to make him more passive and reactive.
At least closer to what I was referring to. And has enough truth to it, that I'll respond.

A DL is either going to be in a system that requires him to penetrate gaps, or to read-and-react. The pre-snap info you refer to isn't going to change his reponsibility, in either case.

In gap penetration, the DL has an ASSIGNED gap. He's not allowed to jump gaps regardless of what he knows.

In read and react, the DL's assignment is to do just that. Sure, pre-snap info isn't going slow that process down any. But it's always a fine line that doesn't ever allow defensive players/coaches to feel comfortable cheating the read. You can get countered at any time. And pre-snap looks can be intentionally deceiving, at any time.

But again, most of that is an aside. So, I repeat once more (although I've never understood the point of it, given the content can be scrolled to, in this thread). But, if there's any way I can be more clear, I'll attempt it now.

I don't know how to say it other than this. No matter what the offensive and defensive schemes, guys are going to find themselves in what amounts to 1 v 1 situations, at the LOS. Pre-snap and/or post-snap.

Regardless of ALL factors, for a DL to get driven back off the LOS, is NEVER acceptable.

Thus, when an OL attempts to do this, the DL is initially going to meet force with force. What would you rather bring to that party, as an OL? Strength and mass? Or a guy motioning horizontally across the field behind you?

All of that said, to establish physical strength/mass/ physical development to be primary in football, when compared to motion and scheme.

But again, that's been fundamental for over 150 years of football. That's why they take the biggest and strongest guys, and put them on the LOS in the middle of the field. So physics can be used to play physically.

Again, has it not always been thoroughly understood that any and every scheme flows from and is at the mercy of LOS play? What are talking about here?

And all that would be to drastically understate what happened at Iowa. An o-line can have five good pistons, but if they aren't firing together, it won't be that great. An o-line can have 4 good players and 1 weak link, and it won't be all that good. At Iowa, not only weren't the pistons firing together, but due to severe physical underdevelopment, across nearly the entire unit, Iowa barely had any pistons that fired at all.

Sure, scheme matters. But then there's the part where Hawkeye fans have been getting it twisted for years, resulting in a peak level of negativity in the community, at the same time KF was in the last season of his winningest stretch at Iowa. Again, absolutely no justification for that.

It doesn't give the Hawks their best chance of winning, folks. Simply be supportive. In reality, the community is part of the team. Caoches and players tell us that all the time. Act like it
 
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At least closer to what I was referring to. And has enough truth to it, that I'll respond.

A DL is either going to be in a system that requires him to penetrate gaps, or to read-and-react. The pre-snap info you refer to isn't going to change his reponsibility, in either case.

In gap pententarion, the DL has an ASSIGNED gap. He's not allowed to jump gaps regardless of what he knows.

In read and react, the DL's assignment is to do just that. Sure, pre-snap info isn't going slow that process down any. But it's always a fine line that doesn't ever allow defensive players/coaches to feel comfortable cheating the read. You can get countered at any time. And pre-snap looks can be intentionally deceiving, at any time.

But again, most of that is an aside. So, I repeat once more (although I've never understood the point of it, given the content can be scrolled to, in this thread). But if there's any way I can be more clear, I'll attempt it now.

But I don't know how to say it other than this. No matter what the offensive and defensive schemes, guys are going to find themselves in what amounts to 1 v 1 situations, at the LOS. Pre-snap and/or post-snap.

Regardless of ALL factors, for a DL to get driven back off the LOS, is NEVER acceptable.

Thus, when an OL attempts to do this, the DL is initially going to meet force with force. What would you rather bring to that party, as an OL? Strength and mass? Or a guy motioning horizontally across the field behind you?

All of that said, to establish physical strength/mass/ physical development to be primary in football, when compared to motion and scheme.

But again, that's been fundamental for over 150 years of football. That's why they take the biggest and strongest guys, and put them on the LOS in the middle of the field. So physics can be used to play physical.

Again, has it not always been thoroughly understood that any and every scheme flows from and is at the mercy of LOS play? What are talking about here?

And all that would be to drastically understate what happened at Iowa. An o-line can have five good pistons, but if they aren't firing together, it won't be that great. An o-line can have 4 good players and 1 weak link, and it won't be all that good. At Iowa, not only weren't the pistons firing together, but due to severe physical underdevelopment, across nearly the entire unit, Iowa barely had any pistons that fired at all.

Sure, scheme matters. But then there's the part where Hawkeye fans have been getting it twisted for years, resulting in a peak level of negativity in the community, at the same time KF was in the last season of his winningest stretch at Iowa. Again, absolutely no justification for that.

It doesn't give the Hawks their best chance of winning, folks. Simply be supportive. In reality, the community is part of the team. Caoches and players tell us that all the time. Act like it
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herkhatescy2

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At least closer to what I was referring to. And has enough truth to it, that I'll respond.

A DL is either going to be in a system that requires him to penetrate gaps, or to read-and-react. The pre-snap info you refer to isn't going to change his reponsibility, in either case.

In gap penetration, the DL has an ASSIGNED gap. He's not allowed to jump gaps regardless of what he knows.

In read and react, the DL's assignment is to do just that. Sure, pre-snap info isn't going slow that process down any. But it's always a fine line that doesn't ever allow defensive players/coaches to feel comfortable cheating the read. You can get countered at any time. And pre-snap looks can be intentionally deceiving, at any time.

But again, most of that is an aside. So, I repeat once more (although I've never understood the point of it, given the content can be scrolled to, in this thread). But, if there's any way I can be more clear, I'll attempt it now.

I don't know how to say it other than this. No matter what the offensive and defensive schemes, guys are going to find themselves in what amounts to 1 v 1 situations, at the LOS. Pre-snap and/or post-snap.

Regardless of ALL factors, for a DL to get driven back off the LOS, is NEVER acceptable.

Thus, when an OL attempts to do this, the DL is initially going to meet force with force. What would you rather bring to that party, as an OL? Strength and mass? Or a guy motioning horizontally across the field behind you?

All of that said, to establish physical strength/mass/ physical development to be primary in football, when compared to motion and scheme.

But again, that's been fundamental for over 150 years of football. That's why they take the biggest and strongest guys, and put them on the LOS in the middle of the field. So physics can be used to play physically.

Again, has it not always been thoroughly understood that any and every scheme flows from and is at the mercy of LOS play? What are talking about here?

And all that would be to drastically understate what happened at Iowa. An o-line can have five good pistons, but if they aren't firing together, it won't be that great. An o-line can have 4 good players and 1 weak link, and it won't be all that good. At Iowa, not only weren't the pistons firing together, but due to severe physical underdevelopment, across nearly the entire unit, Iowa barely had any pistons that fired at all.

Sure, scheme matters. But then there's the part where Hawkeye fans have been getting it twisted for years, resulting in a peak level of negativity in the community, at the same time KF was in the last season of his winningest stretch at Iowa. Again, absolutely no justification for that.

It doesn't give the Hawks their best chance of winning, folks. Simply be supportive. In reality, the community is part of the team. Caoches and players tell us that all the time. Act like it
Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah.
 

Hawkangler

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What does all this harping on other posters have to do with any of these threads.
Not a Fing thing which pretty much sums up about 90% of these threads. I have numerous posters on ignore because over time they show their true colors. They are trolls from other teams, stirring the pot.
 

JBO43

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Some readers would like to read what the post is supposed to be about, you obviously are a moron
If I’m a moron then there are countless morons on this board. You can’t open one thread on this board without encountering one. Thanks for outing me.
 

Istvan Teleky

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Meaning that regardless, the first thing that defensive lineman is going to do once the ball is snapped, is try to win at his point of attack, at the LOS.

He is either going to try reestablish the LOS in the backfield, penetrate, or hold the LOS (usually in the case of head-up alignment).

Regardless of exact assignment, getting pushed back off the LOS is not an option for the defensive lineman.

Thus, when the ball is snapped, it will be a war for the first few inches, regardless of what blocking scheme or motion Iowa may or may not be employing.

I both, played and coached a little o-line
Maybe you have but its does not sound like it was at a very high level. Junior high perhaps. No matter.

Anyway how about some RECRUITING NEWS???
 

RomanHawk

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Maybe you have but its does not sound like it was at a very high level. Junior high perhaps. No matter.

Anyway how about some RECRUITING NEWS???
Here is some, complements of another poster in another thread:

So far we've landed a commitment from the lowest-rated QB we offered.
Missed out on 14 of a total 15 Running Backs offered
Missed out on 17 of 17 Wide Receiver's offered.
Landed a commitment from our lowest-rated Tight End offer - Jax Dejean.

No, the sky is not falling for Iowa. But, we remain the same Iowa not capable of appealing to offensive playmakers, and I think that sucks.
 

wcbrtee

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Yeah because we’ve really crushed it in the portal lol. Particularly at OL. Our best O line addition to date was Rusty Feth who very mediocre.
Offensive line has been our best position the last couple of years And we are plenty deep right now. Pretty low on my whiny ***** list
 

eyesofhawk

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Here is some, complements of another poster in another thread:

So far we've landed a commitment from the lowest-rated QB we offered.
Missed out on 14 of a total 15 Running Backs offered
Missed out on 17 of 17 Wide Receiver's offered.
Landed a commitment from our lowest-rated Tight End offer - Jax Dejean.

No, the sky is not falling for Iowa. But, we remain the same Iowa not capable of appealing to offensive playmakers, and I think that sucks.
Iowa football "sucks", in no way