Effing schools are indoctrinating our children

dpic73

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flotiger

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The guy who tried it resigned so not sure if it stuck.

Ryan Walters steps down as Oklahoma schools chief to lead anti-teachers union group

“We will build an army of teachers to defeat the teachers unions once and for all,” he told Fox News. “This fight is going national and we will get our schools back.”

Stupidity of this always makes my head hurt. Why would you want to defeat teachers unions? And get our schools back from what? Dumbasses just eat this meaningless ******** up.
 

dpic73

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kidmike41

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No, but the Establishment Clause is.
So you know in the 13 colonies each colony had a state religion. That religion was actually funded by the government. Massachusetts was the last state to get rid of their state religion, in 1833. Anyway other denominations didn’t like that there was a state religion so they put in the establishment clause. All of the religions were Christian though. So Islam was never part of the discussion.
 
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TJ8869

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So the Lemon test is in the constitution?
The Establishment Clause is in the Constitution. The Lemon test provides guidance for courts to determine whether a specific law or policy violates the Establishment Clause. And requiring public school students to read Bible verses almost certainly violates all three components of the test.

That's what Sunday school is for. Or private schools. The only time religion should be taught in public schools is in the context of its role in shaping world history.
 

St. Louis Hawk

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So you know in the 13 colonies each colony had a state religion. That religion was actually funded by the government. Massachusetts was the last state to get rid of their state religion, in 1833. Anyway other denominations didn’t like that there was a state religion so they put in the establishment clause. All of the religions were Christian though. So Islam was never part of the discussion.

So no state sponsored religions of any type for the 33 years before the 14th Amendment was passed.
 

RagnarLothbrok

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Correct! Less bible more ch!cks with d!cks
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RagnarLothbrok

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The Establishment Clause is in the Constitution. The Lemon test provides guidance for courts to determine whether a specific law or policy violates the Establishment Clause. And requiring public school students to read Bible verses almost certainly violates all three components of the test.

That's what Sunday school is for. Or private schools. The only time religion should be taught in public schools is in the context of its role in shaping world history.
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Tom Paris

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Another words, mention it to students and move on. Don't indoctrinate and teach it unless they are in a private school.
I don’t know…maybe I will split teams up Bibles vs. Qurans. “Bibles!! You’re kicking first!”
 

kidmike41

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So no state sponsored religions of any type for the 33 years before the 14th Amendment was passed.
Yes state sponsored religion was phased out in 1833. Not reading bibles in school, but actual sponsorship. The 14th amendment didn’t change that.
 

St. Louis Hawk

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Yes state sponsored religion was phased out in 1833. Not reading bibles in school, but actual sponsorship. The 14th amendment didn’t change that.

We can disagree on whether requiring public school students to read a certain Bible - there are many - violates the Establishment Clause.
 

kidmike41

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We can disagree on whether requiring public school students to read a certain Bible - there are many - violates the Establishment Clause.
But it’s not debatable that there were state religions in this country. The 1st Amendment did not mandate separation of church and state.
 
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Huey Grey 2

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Things Republicans refuse to focus on:
Jobs.
Economy.
Inflation.
Healthcare.
National debt.
Staying out of wars.

Things Republicans only want to focus on:
Trans bashing.
Minority bashing.
Women bashing.
And indoctrinating our kids with crap like this.