SCOTUS RULINGS ON IMMIGRATION

[Rifler]

Enters the US under a program that starts with the word "Temporary" and now claims to be shocked that it's time to leave...

 

[baltimorened]

Oh, there are plenty who are fapping to the idea of black and brown people suffering, but I get your overall point. Thus, in principle, I agree with you.

The primary purpose of the federal government is to uphold the Constitution and provide protection and security of our sovereign nation. An important part of protection and security is ensuring we have strong borders and are heavily scrutinizing anyone trying to gain entrance into the United States. So, again, in principle, I agree with the SCOTUS decision.

However…

I also think we should be judicious in how we go about deporting people once here legally under TPS. Yes, I get what “temporary” is intended to mean, it’s still ambiguous language in terms of specific time frames, so I personally believe it only makes sense to be judicious in determining if some people merit the opportunity to gain citizenship who, again, were here legally under TPS.

Look at it as a type of grandfather clause. For those people who have been contributing positively to society by working, paying taxes, and being in general decent human beings, I would hope they would be given a pathway to citizenship. Do I understand given our political climate that is unlikely to happen? Yes. Do I believe many people are happy with this decision because it appeals to their conservative beliefs AND inherent racism? Yes. Do I believe the SCOTUS decision was still correct from a Constitutional standpoint ? Yes.

My point still stands.

first, why does citizenship have to be an end result. I'd bet if you proposed residency with an application, not path (maybe we're saying the same thing) most of these folks would jump at the option.

why does it have to be about race? From what I read, the SC decision will pretty much cover every nationality involved in TPS...

 

[Scrubby]

"This is where are conversations end"

The public school system on full display

I will let you in on a little secret, rags.. your virtue is entirely hollow and you have slowly become a mini version of Chis, posting daily about your stage 4 TDS and how much you think about trans porn and trump's dick. It's weird, and you should probably seek help. Still hoping for the best for you

Lol @RagnarLothbrok you actually went back and made the edit? I love you big guy. Enjoy your cruise

 

[baltimorened]

then there should be provisions for these people to stay...maybe common sense could apply here

 

[Rifler]

why does it have to be about race?

Because Dems are involved,... everything is about race.

 

[baltimorened]

This thread is not about illegal immigrants Scrubs nor would you be celebrating the return of the Haitians if they were Scottish. You're not fooling anyone.

isn't that kind of a racist comment?

 

[RagnarLothbrok]

first, why does citizenship have to be an end result.

I’m not saying it necessarily does. I’m saying the option shouldn’t be off the table.

I'd bet if you proposed residency with an application, not path (maybe we're saying the same thing) most of these folks would jump at the option.

Yup.

why does it have to be about race?

It doesn’t have to be. Again, the SCOTUS ruling was correct. By racism, I’m talking about those people (like Scrubby) who are rejoicing over this not because it’s a victory for conservatism but because it appeals to his hateful nature. Haitian people being adversely affected by this is where his true joy lies. I have yet to determine if dark people suffering is more gratifying to him than when transgender people do, but frankly I don’t care.

From what I read, the SC decision will pretty much cover every nationality involved in TPS...

Again, not in dispute.

 

[dpic73]

isn't that kind of a racist comment?

The magas posting in this thread are screaming racists so please stop pus.sy-footing around the obvious. They also see this as owning the libs, even though the influx started under Trump and a Republican governor recruited them to his state and wants them to stay.

first, why does citizenship have to be an end result. I'd bet if you proposed residency with an application, not path (maybe we're saying the same thing) most of these folks would jump at the option.

why does it have to be about race? From what I read, the SC decision will pretty much cover every nationality involved in TPS...

We aren't talking about citizenship, we are talking about productive members of society who have been provided protective status until it's safe to return them to their home country. If we return them now, do you think the gangs will provide them safety, homes, food and a job? No they won't so the legality isn't the question - the morality is everything.

 

[Scrubby]

The magas posting in this thread are screaming racists so please stop pus.sy-footing around the obvious. They also see this as owning the libs, even though the influx started under Trump and a Republican governor recruited them to his state and wants them to stay.

We aren't talking about citizenship, we are talking about productive members of society who have been provided protective status until it's safe to return them to their home country. If we return them now, do you think the gangs will provide them safety, homes, food and a job? No they won't so the legality isn't the question - the morality is everything.

I'm a person of color you doofus

They were only given protective status till February btw

 

[baltimorened]

None of those things can ever be guaranteed. Just as it can’t be guaranteed the next Democratic president won’t follow the same Trump playbook. This horse is out of the barn and never coming back. We, as a people, have become so tribal we have lost our minds as much as we have our souls.

That’s the cost of fidelity to tribe and feelings over the Constitution of the United States. And, yes, this particular SCOTUS decision is correct, and liberal tribalism paved the way for a lot of the very things you are describing, but in general the Team MAGA response to liberal tribalism and failures is just perpetuating the problem, and at times is also guilty of violating the Constitution or unscrupulously trying to circumvent it under the justification that Team Blue deserves it.

While all true, the problem persists. And while true we are very much still a great nation, the principles and values that have been the glue that have kept us great are being undermined at an alarming rate. If we continue down this path, and we undoubtedly will, the future of our nation is as much in peril as its very soul.

Both sides—MAGA and Team Blue—really need to pause and re-evaluate.

we need to take a step back here a little bit. We have had immigration laws seemingly forever and while I'm far from an expert, we used to give out green card based on an annual quota, later a diversity quota, H1Bs for special skills, and migration (not correct word) for the annual farm laborers who came every year to pick crops. While we had problems with illegal migrants for decades the vast numbers crossing illegally is a more modern phenomenon. The less we enforced the laws, the more illegal crossings we had, or so it seems.

We really do need a new immigration law, that accounts for today's needs. We need more workers....but we need workers who can be self supporting as opposed to those who need to be supported by the government.

 

[baltimorened]

The magas posting in this thread are screaming racists so please stop pus.sy-footing around the obvious. They also see this as owning the libs, even though the influx started under Trump and a Republican governor recruited them to his state and wants them to stay.

We aren't talking about citizenship, we are talking about productive members of society who have been provided protective status until it's safe to return them to their home country. If we return them now, do you think the gangs will provide them safety, homes, food and a job? No they won't so the legality isn't the question - the morality is everything.

you might not be talking about citizenship, but the post I responded to read "path to citizenship".

I don't see race as obvious. What is obvious is TPS, the supreme court decision, and those who are here because of TPS...

 

[bdgan]

"Ohio Governor Mike DeWine issued the following statement on the Supreme Court of the United States' decision in Mullin v. Doe, regarding Temporary Protected Status (TPS):

"Today, the United States Supreme Court issued its ruling allowing Temporary Protected Status (TPS) to be canceled or expire.

"Today’s decision is a legal decision. As I have stated in the past, the policy to remove these individuals from this country is a mistake.

"As a result of today’s ruling, the over 10,000 Haitians who have been living in Ohio (mostly in the Springfield area) legally through TPS will now be here illegally and will be subject to immediate deportation. This also means that while these Haitians were working and contributing to our community and economy yesterday, today it is now illegal to employ them.

"The situation in Haiti could hardly be much worse. The violent gangs run most of the country. The government barely functions. And, the economy is in shambles.
"Further, our federal government has an advisory against traveling to Haiti, and our Federal Aviation Administration prohibits U.S. carriers from flying there because of the danger to planes of being shot at by the gangs.

"But, more importantly, changing the immigration status of these individuals is not in the best interest of the United States nor Ohio."

If I understand this decision correctly it doesn't require these people to be removed. It simply gives the executive the authority on whether to keep renewing temporary protected status.

One of the problems with temporary protected status is that it doesn't seem to be temporary. The other problem with TPS is that those people are no longer considered illegal which makes them eligible for social welfare benefits. I read a study that said 60% of Haitians are on at least one means tested program. I read that 78% of Somalis collect welfare. That's a problem.

 

[RagnarLothbrok]

we need to take a step back here a little bit. We have had immigration laws seemingly forever and while I'm far from an expert, we used to give out green card based on an annual quota, later a diversity quota, H1Bs for special skills, and migration (not correct word) for the annual farm laborers who came every year to pick crops. While we had problems with illegal migrants for decades the vast numbers crossing illegally is a more modern phenomenon. The less we enforced the laws, the more illegal crossings we had, or so it seems.

We really do need a new immigration law, that accounts for today's needs. We need more workers....but we need workers who can be self supporting as opposed to those who need to be supported by the government.

Where do you see me disputing any of that?

 

[dpic73]

I'm a person of color you doofus

They were only given protective status till February btw

Stephen Miller: “America’s doors are fully closed to asylum seekers… If you want asylum, we’ll find another country to take you.”

Since October 2025, 4,499 refugees have been resettled in the U.S., according to the Refugee Processing Center. All but three, who were from Afghanistan, were South African.

Meanwhile, The New York Times reports the Trump administration has prepared a welcome package for future white South African refugees arriving in the U.S. that includes an Android tablet, an American flag, copies of the Constitution and Declaration of Independence, and Trump-approved literature promoting a version of American and South African history that criticizes racial equity and civil rights laws while promoting claims of discrimination against white people.

It doesn’t get more racist than this. Refugees are welcome as long as they’re white."

 

[dpic73]

If I understand this decision correctly it doesn't require these people to be removed. It simply gives the executive the authority on whether to keep renewing temporary protected status.

One of the problems with temporary protected status is that it doesn't seem to be temporary. The other problem with TPS is that those people are no longer considered illegal which makes them eligible for social welfare benefits. I read a study that said 60% of Haitians are on at least one means tested program. I read that 78% of Somalis collect welfare. That's a problem.

Are we upset that some of the invited need healthcare or food assistance even though they're paying for them with their taxes?
Stephen Miller wants them gone so even though it doesn't require them to be removed, they will be.


Out of an estimated 12,000 to 15,000 Haitian immigrants in the Springfield area, official data highlights specific public assistance usage:

• Medicaid: Recent records from Clark County Job and Family Services showed 3,676 people who selected a Haitian language as their preferred language applied for Medicaid.
• Cash Assistance/SNAP: County and state data previously recorded around 4,324 Haitian individuals receiving Refugee Cash Assistance, TANF, or SNAP.

Many Haitian immigrants were invited to the city to fill local labor shortages, but because many were hired through temporary staffing agencies, employer-provided healthcare is frequently not available, driving the need for Medicaid enrollment. Conversely, community organizers also reported that a growing number of Haitian immigrants utilized local food and utility assistance following job losses.

Public assistance

Haitian immigrants in Springfield pay taxes that help fund these public programs.Most Haitian immigrants in the city hold legal status under federal programs like Temporary Protected Status (TPS) or the humanitarian parole program, which grant them formal authorization to work in the United States.

How Immigrants Contribute to Public Programs

Payroll Taxes: Authorized workers have federal, state, and local taxes automatically deducted from their paychecks. These deductions directly fund programs like Social Security, Medicare, and unemployment insurance.

Sales Taxes: Anyone buying goods, groceries, or fuel in Ohio pays state and local sales taxes, which fund general state revenue and county services.

Property Taxes: Immigrants pay property taxes either directly as homeowners or indirectly through rent payments to local landlords. These taxes are the primary funding source for local public schools and county infrastructure.

Income Taxes: Workers file annual tax returns using either a Social Security Number (SSN) or an Individual Taxpayer Identification Number (ITIN), contributing to federal and state income tax pools.

Economic Context in Springfield

Local officials and business owners in Springfield have noted that the influx of Haitian workers helped fill critical labor shortages in manufacturing, warehousing, and logistics, boosting local businesses and increasing the area's overall tax base. Because federal law bars TPS holders and parolees from accessing standard federal safety-net benefits like Social Security and Medicare until they meet long-term residency requirements, they often pay into programs they cannot immediately access.

Haitians pay taxes

 

[Scrubby]

Stephen Miller: “America’s doors are fully closed to asylum seekers… If you want asylum, we’ll find another country to take you.”

Since October 2025, 4,499 refugees have been resettled in the U.S., according to the Refugee Processing Center. All but three, who were from Afghanistan, were South African.

Meanwhile, The New York Times reports the Trump administration has prepared a welcome package for future white South African refugees arriving in the U.S. that includes an Android tablet, an American flag, copies of the Constitution and Declaration of Independence, and Trump-approved literature promoting a version of American and South African history that criticizes racial equity and civil rights laws while promoting claims of discrimination against white people.

It doesn’t get more racist than this. Refugees are welcome as long as they’re white."

Counterpoint: the only refugees who you dislike are white. I will take the white farmers over the hatians who eat cats and geese from our parks/streets. It has nothing to do with skin color btw

 

[Scrubby]

Are we upset that some of the invited need healthcare or food assistance even though they're paying for them with their taxes?
Stephen Miller wants them gone so even though it doesn't require them to be removed, they will be.


Out of an estimated 12,000 to 15,000 Haitian immigrants in the Springfield area, official data highlights specific public assistance usage:

• Medicaid: Recent records from Clark County Job and Family Services showed 3,676 people who selected a Haitian language as their preferred language applied for Medicaid.
• Cash Assistance/SNAP: County and state data previously recorded around 4,324 Haitian individuals receiving Refugee Cash Assistance, TANF, or SNAP.

Many Haitian immigrants were invited to the city to fill local labor shortages, but because many were hired through temporary staffing agencies, employer-provided healthcare is frequently not available, driving the need for Medicaid enrollment. Conversely, community organizers also reported that a growing number of Haitian immigrants utilized local food and utility assistance following job losses.

Public assistance

Haitian immigrants in Springfield pay taxes that help fund these public programs.Most Haitian immigrants in the city hold legal status under federal programs like Temporary Protected Status (TPS) or the humanitarian parole program, which grant them formal authorization to work in the United States.

How Immigrants Contribute to Public Programs

Payroll Taxes: Authorized workers have federal, state, and local taxes automatically deducted from their paychecks. These deductions directly fund programs like Social Security, Medicare, and unemployment insurance.

Sales Taxes: Anyone buying goods, groceries, or fuel in Ohio pays state and local sales taxes, which fund general state revenue and county services.

Property Taxes: Immigrants pay property taxes either directly as homeowners or indirectly through rent payments to local landlords. These taxes are the primary funding source for local public schools and county infrastructure.

Income Taxes: Workers file annual tax returns using either a Social Security Number (SSN) or an Individual Taxpayer Identification Number (ITIN), contributing to federal and state income tax pools.

Economic Context in Springfield

Local officials and business owners in Springfield have noted that the influx of Haitian workers helped fill critical labor shortages in manufacturing, warehousing, and logistics, boosting local businesses and increasing the area's overall tax base. Because federal law bars TPS holders and parolees from accessing standard federal safety-net benefits like Social Security and Medicare until they meet long-term residency requirements, they often pay into programs they cannot immediately access.

Haitians pay taxes

 

[dpic73]

Counterpoint: the only refugees who you dislike are white. I will take the white farmers over the hatians who eat cats and geese from our parks/streets. It has nothing to do with skin color btw

I couldn't care less about their skin color Scrubs, but Pee Wee German does.

Have you noticed how they're not eating the pets ever since the election?

 

[Scrubby]

I couldn't care less about their skin color Scrubs, but Pee Wee German does.

Have you noticed how they're not eating the pets ever since the election?

They're still eating pets btw

 

[dpic73]

View attachment 1341727

They're still eating pets btw

Says the magaloon who believes the words that come out of Trump's mouth.

You're in a cult.

 

[firegiver]

That is a complete misreading of the constitution of the united states of america.

 

[firegiver]

I'm a person of color you doofus

They were only given protective status till February btw

what color are you? Are you Haitian?

 

[baltimorened]

Where do you see me disputing any of that?

sorry, didn't mean to intimate that you were disputing...My first statement about "taking a step back" was meant for the masses, not you...sorry I wasn't clearer

 

[baltimorened]

Are we upset that some of the invited need healthcare or food assistance even though they're paying for them with their taxes?
Stephen Miller wants them gone so even though it doesn't require them to be removed, they will be.


Out of an estimated 12,000 to 15,000 Haitian immigrants in the Springfield area, official data highlights specific public assistance usage:

• Medicaid: Recent records from Clark County Job and Family Services showed 3,676 people who selected a Haitian language as their preferred language applied for Medicaid.
• Cash Assistance/SNAP: County and state data previously recorded around 4,324 Haitian individuals receiving Refugee Cash Assistance, TANF, or SNAP.

Many Haitian immigrants were invited to the city to fill local labor shortages, but because many were hired through temporary staffing agencies, employer-provided healthcare is frequently not available, driving the need for Medicaid enrollment. Conversely, community organizers also reported that a growing number of Haitian immigrants utilized local food and utility assistance following job losses.

Public assistance

Haitian immigrants in Springfield pay taxes that help fund these public programs.Most Haitian immigrants in the city hold legal status under federal programs like Temporary Protected Status (TPS) or the humanitarian parole program, which grant them formal authorization to work in the United States.

How Immigrants Contribute to Public Programs

Payroll Taxes: Authorized workers have federal, state, and local taxes automatically deducted from their paychecks. These deductions directly fund programs like Social Security, Medicare, and unemployment insurance.

Sales Taxes: Anyone buying goods, groceries, or fuel in Ohio pays state and local sales taxes, which fund general state revenue and county services.

Property Taxes: Immigrants pay property taxes either directly as homeowners or indirectly through rent payments to local landlords. These taxes are the primary funding source for local public schools and county infrastructure.

Income Taxes: Workers file annual tax returns using either a Social Security Number (SSN) or an Individual Taxpayer Identification Number (ITIN), contributing to federal and state income tax pools.

Economic Context in Springfield

Local officials and business owners in Springfield have noted that the influx of Haitian workers helped fill critical labor shortages in manufacturing, warehousing, and logistics, boosting local businesses and increasing the area's overall tax base. Because federal law bars TPS holders and parolees from accessing standard federal safety-net benefits like Social Security and Medicare until they meet long-term residency requirements, they often pay into programs they cannot immediately access.

Haitians pay taxes

all good points, but somehow those receiving benefits aren't paying a lot of federal or state taxes, and paying property or sales taxes with taxpayer funds, isn't really a great selling point, for me at least.

Now, if you want to make a case that those NOT on federal payouts, but working, raising families, not committing crimes, deserve some form of residency, then I'm on board.

 

[RagnarLothbrok]

sorry, didn't mean to intimate that you were disputing...My first statement about "taking a step back" was meant for the masses, not you...sorry I wasn't clearer

All good.

That’s why I ask for clarification before assuming.

Thank you.

 

[bdgan]

Are we upset that some of the invited need healthcare or food assistance even though they're paying for them with their taxes?
Stephen Miller wants them gone so even though it doesn't require them to be removed, they will be.


Out of an estimated 12,000 to 15,000 Haitian immigrants in the Springfield area, official data highlights specific public assistance usage:

• Medicaid: Recent records from Clark County Job and Family Services showed 3,676 people who selected a Haitian language as their preferred language applied for Medicaid.
• Cash Assistance/SNAP: County and state data previously recorded around 4,324 Haitian individuals receiving Refugee Cash Assistance, TANF, or SNAP.

Many Haitian immigrants were invited to the city to fill local labor shortages, but because many were hired through temporary staffing agencies, employer-provided healthcare is frequently not available, driving the need for Medicaid enrollment. Conversely, community organizers also reported that a growing number of Haitian immigrants utilized local food and utility assistance following job losses.

Public assistance

Haitian immigrants in Springfield pay taxes that help fund these public programs.Most Haitian immigrants in the city hold legal status under federal programs like Temporary Protected Status (TPS) or the humanitarian parole program, which grant them formal authorization to work in the United States.

How Immigrants Contribute to Public Programs

Payroll Taxes: Authorized workers have federal, state, and local taxes automatically deducted from their paychecks. These deductions directly fund programs like Social Security, Medicare, and unemployment insurance.

Sales Taxes: Anyone buying goods, groceries, or fuel in Ohio pays state and local sales taxes, which fund general state revenue and county services.

Property Taxes: Immigrants pay property taxes either directly as homeowners or indirectly through rent payments to local landlords. These taxes are the primary funding source for local public schools and county infrastructure.

Income Taxes: Workers file annual tax returns using either a Social Security Number (SSN) or an Individual Taxpayer Identification Number (ITIN), contributing to federal and state income tax pools.

Economic Context in Springfield

Local officials and business owners in Springfield have noted that the influx of Haitian workers helped fill critical labor shortages in manufacturing, warehousing, and logistics, boosting local businesses and increasing the area's overall tax base. Because federal law bars TPS holders and parolees from accessing standard federal safety-net benefits like Social Security and Medicare until they meet long-term residency requirements, they often pay into programs they cannot immediately access.

Haitians pay taxes

You're all over the place. First you quote a statistic from one county then you quote something else nationally. It's amazing how you believe wealthy business owners who employe people are screwing the country over while immigrants with low skill/education are lifting the country up.

• Of households headed by non-citizens, 47 percent use one or more traditional welfare programs, 19 percentage points higher than the 28 percent for U.S.-born households. The non-citizen rate rises to 57 percent when eligibility for the EITC or ACTC is added, compared to 34 percent for the U.S.-born.

I'm not criticizing the majority of these people. I'd want to come here too if I was living in a crappy country. My position is that it should be limited and at our discretion. Maybe even provide a pathway to citizenship for a limited number of people. The T in TPS stands for temporary. I's like temporary enhanced covid subsidies. The key word is temporary.

 

[dpic73]

You're all over the place. First you quote a statistic from one county then you quote something else nationally. It's amazing how you believe wealthy business owners who employe people are screwing the country over while immigrants with low skill/education are lifting the country up.

• Of households headed by non-citizens, 47 percent use one or more traditional welfare programs, 19 percentage points higher than the 28 percent for U.S.-born households. The non-citizen rate rises to 57 percent when eligibility for the EITC or ACTC is added, compared to 34 percent for the U.S.-born.

I'm not criticizing the majority of these people. I'd want to come here too if I was living in a crappy country. My position is that it should be limited and at our discretion. Maybe even provide a pathway to citizenship for a limited number of people. The T in TPS stands for temporary. I's like temporary enhanced covid subsidies. The key word is temporary.

No dude, I haven't changed a thing, all my responses related to Springfield and I have no idea what your third sentence means, but it's not related to anything I've said.

I understand the program, it doesn't need to be explained.

Please note the phrases "humanitarian crisis", "recruited by a Republican governor", "not yet safe to return", "productive tax payers."

.

 

[Scrubby]

25 points lol

 

[Hotshoe]

"Ohio Governor Mike DeWine issued the following statement on the Supreme Court of the United States' decision in Mullin v. Doe, regarding Temporary Protected Status (TPS):

"Today, the United States Supreme Court issued its ruling allowing Temporary Protected Status (TPS) to be canceled or expire.

"Today’s decision is a legal decision. As I have stated in the past, the policy to remove these individuals from this country is a mistake.

"As a result of today’s ruling, the over 10,000 Haitians who have been living in Ohio (mostly in the Springfield area) legally through TPS will now be here illegally and will be subject to immediate deportation. This also means that while these Haitians were working and contributing to our community and economy yesterday, today it is now illegal to employ them.

"The situation in Haiti could hardly be much worse. The violent gangs run most of the country. The government barely functions. And, the economy is in shambles.
"Further, our federal government has an advisory against traveling to Haiti, and our Federal Aviation Administration prohibits U.S. carriers from flying there because of the danger to planes of being shot at by the gangs.

"But, more importantly, changing the immigration status of these individuals is not in the best interest of the United States nor Ohio."

The U.S. has given Haiti $6 billion dollars. Where is it? With corrupt politicians.

 

[Hotshoe]

Magas aren't human

You poor thing. Only you have more empathy than anyone in the entire world. Hmmm, it's ironic that, Conservatives give far more than liberals do in charitable contributions, but we don't care. Boo hoo hooo.

 

[McLovin32]

Conservatives give far more than liberals do in charitable contributions

Link please

 

[Anon1770233356]

You poor thing. Only you have more empathy than anyone in the entire world. Hmmm, it's ironic that, Conservatives give far more than liberals do in charitable contributions, but we don't care. Boo hoo hooo.

 

[Hotshoe]

Enjoy hell

I thought you didn't believe in God...

 

[baltimorened]

Link please

how would anybody know if a contributor/donator was a conservative or liberal?

 

[McLovin32]

how would anybody know if a contributor/donator was a conservative or liberal?

Exactly. Ask your boy.

 

[Hotshoe]

We don't have a Scottish problem in our country so this is a silly what if scenario that deserves zero thought or consideration

Well, to be honest, the Scottish who are here for the World Cup love America. Who you're answering, hates America. Meanwhile, the Scottish come in legally. Others get pushed to the front of the line during Dem control. They simply want votes. They don't give a flying F about these people. The moment they showed up at Martha's Vineyard, the libs demanded they be removed. They are gutless hypocrites. They simply want them to clean their homes.

 

[Scrubby]

Well, to be honest, the Scottish who are here for the World Cup love America. Who you're answering, hates America. Meanwhile, the Scottish come in legally. Others get pushed to the front of the line during Dem control. They simply want votes. They don't give a flying F about these people. The moment they showed up at Martha's Vineyard, the libs demanded they be removed. They are gutless hypocrites. They simply want them to clean their homes.

Lol the Martha's vineyard example is just

 

[Hotshoe]

The magas posting in this thread are screaming racists so please stop pus.sy-footing around the obvious. They also see this as owning the libs, even though the influx started under Trump and a Republican governor recruited them to his state and wants them to stay.

We aren't talking about citizenship, we are talking about productive members of society who have been provided protective status until it's safe to return them to their home country. If we return them now, do you think the gangs will provide them safety, homes, food and a job? No they won't so the legality isn't the question - the morality is everything.

Lmao, when you have nothing, and you never do, you scream racist and Nazi. Lmao.

Meanwhile, Iran, the country you support over your own, filed a protest to FIFA regarding Pride at their world cup match. You're simply a joke.

 

[PedMaller]

 

[bdgan]

Oh, there are plenty who are fapping to the idea of black and brown people suffering, but I get your overall point. Thus, in principle, I agree with you.

The primary purpose of the federal government is to uphold the Constitution and provide protection and security of our sovereign nation. An important part of protection and security is ensuring we have strong borders and are heavily scrutinizing anyone trying to gain entrance into the United States. So, again, in principle, I agree with the SCOTUS decision.

However…

I also think we should be judicious in how we go about deporting people once here legally under TPS. Yes, I get what “temporary” is intended to mean, it’s still ambiguous language in terms of specific time frames, so I personally believe it only makes sense to be judicious in determining if some people merit the opportunity to gain citizenship who, again, were here legally under TPS.

Look at it as a type of grandfather clause. For those people who have been contributing positively to society by working, paying taxes, and being in general decent human beings, I would hope they would be given a pathway to citizenship. Do I understand given our political climate that is unlikely to happen? Yes. Do I believe many people are happy with this decision because it appeals to their conservative beliefs AND inherent racism? Yes. Do I believe the SCOTUS decision was still correct from a Constitutional standpoint ? Yes.

My point still stands.

I mostly agree with this. My compromise would be to tell the working people they can remain as long as they stay out of trouble BUT they are no longer eligible for social welfare benefits. You have to assimilate and pay your own way.