SCOTUS RULINGS ON IMMIGRATION

[TigerGrowls]

SCOTUS just ripped the open borders fantasy to shreds today. God bless America!!!

Thank you President Trump!!! I voted for this.



𝐌𝐄𝐃𝐈𝐀 𝐀𝐍𝐂𝐇𝐎𝐑 𝐂𝐀𝐋𝐋𝐒 𝐒𝐂𝐎𝐓𝐔𝐒 𝐈𝐌𝐌𝐈𝐆𝐑𝐀𝐓𝐈𝐎𝐍 𝐕𝐈𝐂𝐓𝐎𝐑𝐈𝐄𝐒 “𝐖𝐑𝐎𝐍𝐆, 𝐂𝐑𝐔𝐄𝐋, 𝐀𝐍𝐃 𝐔𝐍-𝐀𝐌𝐄𝐑𝐈𝐂𝐀𝐍”

The Supreme Court handed President Trump two 6-3 immigration victories today — and the media’s response revealed exactly where their loyalties lie.

The first ruling gives the executive branch sole discretion to end 𝐓𝐞𝐦𝐩𝐨𝐫𝐚𝐫𝐲 𝐏𝐫𝐨𝐭𝐞𝐜𝐭𝐞𝐝 𝐒𝐭𝐚𝐭𝐮𝐬 for migrants from countries no longer deemed unsafe. The second revived a border policy turning away asylum seekers at the U.S.-Mexico border without proper documentation. Both 6-3 along ideological lines.

One anchor’s live reaction: “𝘛𝘩𝘪𝘴 𝘪𝘴 𝘸𝘳𝘰𝘯𝘨, 𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘴 𝘪𝘴 𝘤𝘳𝘶𝘦𝘭, 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘴 𝘪𝘴 𝘶𝘯-𝘈𝘮𝘦𝘳𝘪𝘤𝘢𝘯.”

Let that settle. The American people voted overwhelmingly for exactly this — border security, deportation enforcement, the rule of law. SCOTUS confirmed the president has the constitutional authority to deliver. Somehow, honoring 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐯𝐨𝐭𝐞𝐫𝐬’ 𝐦𝐚𝐧𝐝𝐚𝐭𝐞 is “cruel” to the press.

TPS was sold as temporary. Haiti’s earthquake was 2010. Syria’s civil war began 2011. Sixteen years and fourteen years later, “temporary” protection had quietly become permanent residency by default — never challenged by the media, always shielded by lower courts. Trump ended the fiction. SCOTUS backed him 𝟔-𝟑.

The same anchors who tell you daily that “democracy is sacred” just called it un-American when the democratically elected president enforced the law his voters demanded.

𝐒𝐢𝐱𝐭𝐞𝐞𝐧 𝐲𝐞𝐚𝐫𝐬 𝐨𝐟 ‘𝐭𝐞𝐦𝐩𝐨𝐫𝐚𝐫𝐲’ 𝐞𝐧𝐝𝐬 𝐰𝐡𝐞𝐫𝐞 𝐢𝐭 𝐚𝐥𝐰𝐚𝐲𝐬 𝐬𝐡𝐨𝐮𝐥𝐝 𝐡𝐚𝐯𝐞 — 𝐚𝐭 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐛𝐚𝐥𝐥𝐨𝐭 𝐛𝐨𝐱.

 

[fsu1jreed]

open borders.........LOL

 

[TigerGrowls]

BOOM!!!



𝐒𝐂𝐎𝐓𝐔𝐒 𝐃𝐈𝐃𝐍’𝐓 𝐉𝐔𝐒𝐓 𝐑𝐔𝐋𝐄 𝐅𝐎𝐑 𝐓𝐑𝐔𝐌𝐏 𝐎𝐍 𝐓𝐏𝐒 — 𝐂𝐎𝐔𝐑𝐓𝐒 𝐇𝐀𝐕𝐄 𝐍𝐎 𝐀𝐔𝐓𝐇𝐎𝐑𝐈𝐓𝐘 𝐓𝐎 𝐑𝐄𝐕𝐈𝐄𝐖 𝐈𝐓 𝐀𝐓 𝐀𝐋𝐋

Today’s TPS ruling had a buried headline: the Supreme Court didn’t just find that the Trump administration acted lawfully. It found that federal courts 𝐡𝐚𝐯𝐞 𝐧𝐨 𝐣𝐮𝐫𝐢𝐬𝐝𝐢𝐜𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧 to review these decisions in the first place.

Writing for the conservative majority, Justice Samuel Alito ruled that the TPS statute 𝘦𝘹𝘱𝘳𝘦𝘴𝘴𝘭𝘺 𝘳𝘦𝘴𝘵𝘳𝘪𝘤𝘵𝘴 judicial review of any DHS Secretary determination on TPS designation, extension, or termination. The litigants’ arguments were, in Alito’s word, not even "𝘴𝘰𝘶𝘯𝘥."

“𝘊𝘰𝘶𝘳𝘵𝘴 𝘥𝘰𝘯’𝘵 𝘦𝘷𝘦𝘯 𝘩𝘢𝘷𝘦 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘢𝘶𝘵𝘩𝘰𝘳𝘪𝘵𝘺 𝘵𝘰 𝘳𝘦𝘷𝘪𝘦𝘸 𝘸𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘚𝘦𝘤𝘳𝘦𝘵𝘢𝘳𝘺 𝘩𝘢𝘴 𝘥𝘦𝘵𝘦𝘳𝘮𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘥. 𝘛𝘩𝘦 𝘭𝘢𝘯𝘨𝘶𝘢𝘨𝘦 𝘪𝘴 𝘷𝘦𝘳𝘺 𝘤𝘭𝘦𝘢𝘳.”

This is the structural win that matters most. For years, activist federal judges — including Obama appointees who found a likely 𝐞𝐪𝐮𝐚𝐥 𝐩𝐫𝐨𝐭𝐞𝐜𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧 𝐯𝐢𝐨𝐥𝐚𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧 in Trump’s comments about Haitians — used TPS challenges to issue sweeping nationwide injunctions blocking every executive immigration move. Alito just closed that door permanently. The statute says courts can’t review it. The court confirmed exactly that.

The three liberal dissenters complained that the plaintiffs “𝘥𝘦𝘴𝘦𝘳𝘷𝘦 𝘣𝘦𝘵𝘵𝘦𝘳 𝘵𝘩𝘢𝘯 𝘵𝘰𝘥𝘢𝘺’𝘴 𝘥𝘦𝘤𝘪𝘴𝘪𝘰𝘯.” What they deserved was a Congress that didn’t write a statute explicitly limiting judicial review. Take it up with the legislature.

𝐓𝐡𝐞 𝐚𝐜𝐭𝐢𝐯𝐢𝐬𝐭 𝐣𝐮𝐝𝐠𝐞𝐬 𝐰𝐡𝐨 𝐭𝐮𝐫𝐧𝐞𝐝 𝐓𝐏𝐒 𝐢𝐧𝐭𝐨 𝐩𝐞𝐫𝐦𝐚𝐧𝐞𝐧𝐭 𝐚𝐦𝐧𝐞𝐬𝐭𝐲 𝐣𝐮𝐬𝐭 𝐥𝐨𝐬𝐭 𝐭𝐡𝐞𝐢𝐫 𝐣𝐮𝐫𝐢𝐬𝐝𝐢𝐜𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧.

 

[TigerGrowls]

open borders.........LOL

Step away from the ledge bro.

 

[dpic73]

"Ohio Governor Mike DeWine issued the following statement on the Supreme Court of the United States' decision in Mullin v. Doe, regarding Temporary Protected Status (TPS):

"Today, the United States Supreme Court issued its ruling allowing Temporary Protected Status (TPS) to be canceled or expire.

"Today’s decision is a legal decision. As I have stated in the past, the policy to remove these individuals from this country is a mistake.

"As a result of today’s ruling, the over 10,000 Haitians who have been living in Ohio (mostly in the Springfield area) legally through TPS will now be here illegally and will be subject to immediate deportation. This also means that while these Haitians were working and contributing to our community and economy yesterday, today it is now illegal to employ them.

"The situation in Haiti could hardly be much worse. The violent gangs run most of the country. The government barely functions. And, the economy is in shambles.
"Further, our federal government has an advisory against traveling to Haiti, and our Federal Aviation Administration prohibits U.S. carriers from flying there because of the danger to planes of being shot at by the gangs.

"But, more importantly, changing the immigration status of these individuals is not in the best interest of the United States nor Ohio."

 

[fsu1jreed]

Step away from the ledge bro.

You'\re the one with your legs hanging over the ledge

 

[fsu1jreed]

"Ohio Governor Mike DeWine issued the following statement on the Supreme Court of the United States' decision in Mullin v. Doe, regarding Temporary Protected Status (TPS):

"Today, the United States Supreme Court issued its ruling allowing Temporary Protected Status (TPS) to be canceled or expire.

"Today’s decision is a legal decision. As I have stated in the past, the policy to remove these individuals from this country is a mistake.

"As a result of today’s ruling, the over 10,000 Haitians who have been living in Ohio (mostly in the Springfield area) legally through TPS will now be here illegally and will be subject to immediate deportation. This also means that while these Haitians were working and contributing to our community and economy yesterday, today it is now illegal to employ them.

"The situation in Haiti could hardly be much worse. The violent gangs run most of the country. The government barely functions. And, the economy is in shambles.
"Further, our federal government has an advisory against traveling to Haiti, and our Federal Aviation Administration prohibits U.S. carriers from flying there because of the danger to planes of being shot at by the gangs.

"But, more importantly, changing the immigration status of these individuals is not in the best interest of the United States nor Ohio."

piece of ****.........all MAGA

 

[TigerGrowls]

"Ohio Governor Mike DeWine issued the following statement on the Supreme Court of the United States' decision in Mullin v. Doe, regarding Temporary Protected Status (TPS):

"Today, the United States Supreme Court issued its ruling allowing Temporary Protected Status (TPS) to be canceled or expire.

"Today’s decision is a legal decision. As I have stated in the past, the policy to remove these individuals from this country is a mistake.

"As a result of today’s ruling, the over 10,000 Haitians who have been living in Ohio (mostly in the Springfield area) legally through TPS will now be here illegally and will be subject to immediate deportation. This also means that while these Haitians were working and contributing to our community and economy yesterday, today it is now illegal to employ them.

"The situation in Haiti could hardly be much worse. The violent gangs run most of the country. The government barely functions. And, the economy is in shambles.
"Further, our federal government has an advisory against traveling to Haiti, and our Federal Aviation Administration prohibits U.S. carriers from flying there because of the danger to planes of being shot at by the gangs.

"But, more importantly, changing the immigration status of these individuals is not in the best interest of the United States nor Ohio."

Too bad so sad. Hasta La Vista.

 

[aCEOuProbablyKnow]

You'\re the one with your legs hanging over the ledge

 

[TigerGrowls]

You'\re the one with your legs hanging over the ledge

Im extremely happy with Trump as POTUS.

 

[dpic73]

Too bad so sad. Hasta La Vista.

Magas aren't human

 

[TigerGrowls]

Magas aren't human

No dpic. We arent going to be abused to make libs and commies happy. Saving America in its constitutional form is the only option. We refuse to be overrun by foreign invaders posing as refugees. Actions have consequences and the chickens have come home to roost. Its going to get a lot worse for the open borders crowd before it gets better.

 

[TigerGrowls]

Magas aren't human

 

[TigerGrowls]

Some may wonder why Haitians first... then perhaps Somalis...

Because enforcement is being sequenced through the path of least political and legal resistance...

Begin with populations backed by smaller political coalitions... establish executive authority... survive the court challenge... create precedent... then carry that authority outward...

Today’s Supreme Court ruling allows the administration to terminate Temporary Protected Status for Haitians and Syrians, while sharply limiting judicial review of those decisions...

That is the real breakthrough...

Somalia is already in the same pipeline... DHS moved to terminate Somali TPS, but a federal judge paused the action...

Today’s ruling does not automatically decide that case... yet the legal ground beneath the injunction just shifted...

This is larger than one nationality...

Build the lawful removal architecture one case at a time... narrow the courts’ ability to obstruct it... then scale enforcement across every temporary program that became functionally permanent...

Temporary means temporary... and precedent becomes the machine...

Once codified into law, the rest will follow...

 

[baltimorened]

BOOM!!!



𝐒𝐂𝐎𝐓𝐔𝐒 𝐃𝐈𝐃𝐍’𝐓 𝐉𝐔𝐒𝐓 𝐑𝐔𝐋𝐄 𝐅𝐎𝐑 𝐓𝐑𝐔𝐌𝐏 𝐎𝐍 𝐓𝐏𝐒 — 𝐂𝐎𝐔𝐑𝐓𝐒 𝐇𝐀𝐕𝐄 𝐍𝐎 𝐀𝐔𝐓𝐇𝐎𝐑𝐈𝐓𝐘 𝐓𝐎 𝐑𝐄𝐕𝐈𝐄𝐖 𝐈𝐓 𝐀𝐓 𝐀𝐋𝐋

Today’s TPS ruling had a buried headline: the Supreme Court didn’t just find that the Trump administration acted lawfully. It found that federal courts 𝐡𝐚𝐯𝐞 𝐧𝐨 𝐣𝐮𝐫𝐢𝐬𝐝𝐢𝐜𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧 to review these decisions in the first place.

Writing for the conservative majority, Justice Samuel Alito ruled that the TPS statute 𝘦𝘹𝘱𝘳𝘦𝘴𝘴𝘭𝘺 𝘳𝘦𝘴𝘵𝘳𝘪𝘤𝘵𝘴 judicial review of any DHS Secretary determination on TPS designation, extension, or termination. The litigants’ arguments were, in Alito’s word, not even "𝘴𝘰𝘶𝘯𝘥."

“𝘊𝘰𝘶𝘳𝘵𝘴 𝘥𝘰𝘯’𝘵 𝘦𝘷𝘦𝘯 𝘩𝘢𝘷𝘦 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘢𝘶𝘵𝘩𝘰𝘳𝘪𝘵𝘺 𝘵𝘰 𝘳𝘦𝘷𝘪𝘦𝘸 𝘸𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘚𝘦𝘤𝘳𝘦𝘵𝘢𝘳𝘺 𝘩𝘢𝘴 𝘥𝘦𝘵𝘦𝘳𝘮𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘥. 𝘛𝘩𝘦 𝘭𝘢𝘯𝘨𝘶𝘢𝘨𝘦 𝘪𝘴 𝘷𝘦𝘳𝘺 𝘤𝘭𝘦𝘢𝘳.”

This is the structural win that matters most. For years, activist federal judges — including Obama appointees who found a likely 𝐞𝐪𝐮𝐚𝐥 𝐩𝐫𝐨𝐭𝐞𝐜𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧 𝐯𝐢𝐨𝐥𝐚𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧 in Trump’s comments about Haitians — used TPS challenges to issue sweeping nationwide injunctions blocking every executive immigration move. Alito just closed that door permanently. The statute says courts can’t review it. The court confirmed exactly that.

The three liberal dissenters complained that the plaintiffs “𝘥𝘦𝘴𝘦𝘳𝘷𝘦 𝘣𝘦𝘵𝘵𝘦𝘳 𝘵𝘩𝘢𝘯 𝘵𝘰𝘥𝘢𝘺’𝘴 𝘥𝘦𝘤𝘪𝘴𝘪𝘰𝘯.” What they deserved was a Congress that didn’t write a statute explicitly limiting judicial review. Take it up with the legislature.

𝐓𝐡𝐞 𝐚𝐜𝐭𝐢𝐯𝐢𝐬𝐭 𝐣𝐮𝐝𝐠𝐞𝐬 𝐰𝐡𝐨 𝐭𝐮𝐫𝐧𝐞𝐝 𝐓𝐏𝐒 𝐢𝐧𝐭𝐨 𝐩𝐞𝐫𝐦𝐚𝐧𝐞𝐧𝐭 𝐚𝐦𝐧𝐞𝐬𝐭𝐲 𝐣𝐮𝐬𝐭 𝐥𝐨𝐬𝐭 𝐭𝐡𝐞𝐢𝐫 𝐣𝐮𝐫𝐢𝐬𝐝𝐢𝐜𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧.

wasn't there outrage about - abandoning the constitution, ending democracy over the original Trump EOs. Seems as if, in these cases Trump, or his advisors, might know more about the constitution than some of the posters on here.

 

[baltimorened]

"Ohio Governor Mike DeWine issued the following statement on the Supreme Court of the United States' decision in Mullin v. Doe, regarding Temporary Protected Status (TPS):

"Today, the United States Supreme Court issued its ruling allowing Temporary Protected Status (TPS) to be canceled or expire.

"Today’s decision is a legal decision. As I have stated in the past, the policy to remove these individuals from this country is a mistake.

"As a result of today’s ruling, the over 10,000 Haitians who have been living in Ohio (mostly in the Springfield area) legally through TPS will now be here illegally and will be subject to immediate deportation. This also means that while these Haitians were working and contributing to our community and economy yesterday, today it is now illegal to employ them.

"The situation in Haiti could hardly be much worse. The violent gangs run most of the country. The government barely functions. And, the economy is in shambles.
"Further, our federal government has an advisory against traveling to Haiti, and our Federal Aviation Administration prohibits U.S. carriers from flying there because of the danger to planes of being shot at by the gangs.

"But, more importantly, changing the immigration status of these individuals is not in the best interest of the United States nor Ohio."

but, no one is above the law..remember

 

[TigerGrowls]

SCOTUS handed down two rulings yesterday that basically said the same thing in plain English: words still mean what they say.

On the border, the Court ruled that standing at the line is not the same as arriving in the United States. You actually have to cross it. The old trick of showing up, claiming you’ve “arrived,” and demanding to be processed no matter how many people are already in line just got shut down. Metering is back on solid legal ground. The daily cap on asylum claims at the border isn’t some Trump invention the Court had to stretch to defend. It’s consistent with what “arrive” has always meant in normal language.

On Temporary Protected Status, the Court made it clear that temporary is supposed to be temporary. For years, lower courts and activist lawsuits kept TPS designations alive long after the original conditions had changed, turning what was meant to be short-term relief into open-ended residency.

The justices said most of those challenges can’t even be heard in federal court, and the racial discrimination claim against ending Haiti’s TPS wasn’t likely to succeed. Congress wrote the program. DHS runs it. Judges don’t get to rewrite the word “temporary” just because they don’t like the outcome.

Both decisions push back on the same bad habit: pretending legal words don’t have fixed meanings when it’s politically inconvenient. A border that doesn’t actually separate anything isn’t a border. A status labeled temporary that never ends isn’t temporary.

The Court didn’t hand down anything radical. It just refused to play along with the redefinitions anymore.
(article below)

 

[UrHuckleberry]

Too bad so sad. Hasta La Vista.

I legit don’t understand why you’d be so happy about these people being kicked out, they were here legally, many of them women and children. Why being so happy another human being is going to be sent to another country in turmoil, simply because they were born somewhere different than you. Where you’re born shouldn’t really change someone’s inherent worth as a fellow human being. It feels so dehumanizing man. We don’t often see things the same way, but I’ve never felt like you were a “bad guy”, we just see things differently. I feel like you are deceived, you likely feel the same about me, but we’ve always had a weird sort of e-friendship/understanding. So would just say please think about this. It’s one thing to think Trump has the right in the legal sense, like the court did. It’s another to celebrate the future suffering of fellow humans, particularly who actually did do it “the right way”. To flippantly joke about it.

 

[TigerGrowls]

I legit don’t understand why you’d be so happy about these people being kicked out, they were here legally, many of them women and children. Why being so happy another human being is going to be sent to another country in turmoil, simply because they were born somewhere different than you. Where you’re born shouldn’t really change someone’s inherent worth as a fellow human being. It feels so dehumanizing man. We don’t often see things the same way, but I’ve never felt like you were a “bad guy”, we just see things differently. I feel like you are deceived, you likely feel the same about me, but we’ve always had a weird sort of e-friendship/understanding. So would just say please think about this. It’s one thing to think Trump has the right in the legal sense, like the court did. It’s another to celebrate the future suffering of fellow humans, particularly who actually did do it “the right way”. To flippantly joke about it.

I refuse to be held hostage emotionally when a decision is made that should be made. The right decision for the United States as a nation is to end TPS. We are under water financially and its been confirmed that there is a cottage industry where the illegals under TPS are stealing billions and sending it overseas. This is on top of the vast majority of them being on max welfare. No thanks. Hard decisions must be made. This situation should of never occurred. The democrats have been running this scam for a long time. Thsnk you President Trump!!!

 

[Scrubby]

"Ohio Governor Mike DeWine issued the following statement on the Supreme Court of the United States' decision in Mullin v. Doe, regarding Temporary Protected Status (TPS):

"Today, the United States Supreme Court issued its ruling allowing Temporary Protected Status (TPS) to be canceled or expire.

"Today’s decision is a legal decision. As I have stated in the past, the policy to remove these individuals from this country is a mistake.

"As a result of today’s ruling, the over 10,000 Haitians who have been living in Ohio (mostly in the Springfield area) legally through TPS will now be here illegally and will be subject to immediate deportation. This also means that while these Haitians were working and contributing to our community and economy yesterday, today it is now illegal to employ them.

"The situation in Haiti could hardly be much worse. The violent gangs run most of the country. The government barely functions. And, the economy is in shambles.
"Further, our federal government has an advisory against traveling to Haiti, and our Federal Aviation Administration prohibits U.S. carriers from flying there because of the danger to planes of being shot at by the gangs.

"But, more importantly, changing the immigration status of these individuals is not in the best interest of the United States nor Ohio."

Good riddance lol we the people voted to purge these individuals from our nation. This is what democracy looks like

 

[Scrubby]

I legit don’t understand why you’d be so happy about these people being kicked out, they were here legally, many of them women and children. Why being so happy another human being is going to be sent to another country in turmoil, simply because they were born somewhere different than you. Where you’re born shouldn’t really change someone’s inherent worth as a fellow human being. It feels so dehumanizing man. We don’t often see things the same way, but I’ve never felt like you were a “bad guy”, we just see things differently. I feel like you are deceived, you likely feel the same about me, but we’ve always had a weird sort of e-friendship/understanding. So would just say please think about this. It’s one thing to think Trump has the right in the legal sense, like the court did. It’s another to celebrate the future suffering of fellow humans, particularly who actually did do it “the right way”. To flippantly joke about it.

Temporary means temporary. It's time for them to gtfo

The comments from team blue on this subject confirm that the border crisis under biden and Harris was current liberal policy in action. This is a really great masks off moment and is going to be great ammunition against dems in the mid terms and 2028.

Keep running on importing the 3rd world dems! Don't stop just because your polling is now in the teens! Double down.

 

[Scrubby]

Mamdani is openly stating he will defy the Supreme court's decision and the executive branch's constitutional authority to defend our borders. This sounds like an actual insurrection to me. Grounds for denaturalization and deportation?

 

[UrHuckleberry]

I refuse to be held hostage emotionally when a decision is made that should be made. The right decision for the United States as a nation is to end TPS. We are under water financially and its been confirmed that there is a cottage industry where the illegals under TPS are stealing billions and sending it overseas. This is on top of the vast majority of them being on max welfare. No thanks. Hard decisions must be made. This situation should of never occurred. The democrats have been running this scam for a long time. Thsnk you President Trump!!!

I literally said that you could say that he had the right. But that's not what I was calling out. I was calling out "Too bad so sad. Hasta lavista." If you had said "I believe that it is not in the countries best interest. I get that it sucks for the people involved and hope they are fine down the line, but I believe that XYZ are happening and it is for the best. Thank you Trump for the hard decision". That is all I am saying. We would still likely see things differently but you would keep your humanity, allow for others humanity to be retained, etc. Personally, when a family here illegally is deported, even if not criminals, while I may wish we made it easier to be here, while I often think we may do things inhumanely these days, or with unnecessary cruelty, if it's against the law and rights afforded by the constitution are followed, it is possible for me to both think something is correct (if they were illegal and deported), I can also grieve for the people involved who were likely just doing their absolute best in life (gang bangers or ones sent here by cartels etc obviously excluded. Well, not fully, I still have pity for them, but a different sort).

Can you share the court cases that have been brought and tried of these confirmed cottage industries where there are billions being stolen and sent overseas?

 

[fatpiggy]

No one‘s mad at the migrants and we feel sorry for them. However, it was terrible democrat policy to allow it to get this way. We are mad at the policy.

This was the correct decision legally and morally.

 

[UrHuckleberry]

No one‘s mad at the migrants and we feel sorry for them. However, it was terrible democrat policy to allow it to get this way. We are mad at the policy.

This was the correct decision legally and morally.

That is not what is ever communicated. Words and rhetoric matter. The more people use dehumanizing language, the easier not seeing others as humans becomes.

 

[TigerGrowls]

I literally said that you could say that he had the right. But that's not what I was calling out. I was calling out "Too bad so sad. Hasta lavista." If you had said "I believe that it is not in the countries best interest. I get that it sucks for the people involved and hope they are fine down the line, but I believe that XYZ are happening and it is for the best. Thank you Trump for the hard decision". That is all I am saying. We would still likely see things differently but you would keep your humanity, allow for others humanity to be retained, etc. Personally, when a family here illegally is deported, even if not criminals, while I may wish we made it easier to be here, while I often think we may do things inhumanely these days, or with unnecessary cruelty, if it's against the law and rights afforded by the constitution are followed, it is possible for me to both think something is correct (if they were illegal and deported), I can also grieve for the people involved who were likely just doing their absolute best in life (gang bangers or ones sent here by cartels etc obviously excluded. Well, not fully, I still have pity for them, but a different sort).

Can you share the court cases that have been brought and tried of these confirmed cottage industries where there are billions being stolen and sent overseas?

Im not sharing anything. Look it up. You can keep your head in the sand or choose to know whats occurring.

 

[Rifler]

Correct rulings for both,.. Arrive still means arrive, and temporary still means temporary.

 

[UrHuckleberry]

Im not sharing anything. Look it up. You can keep your head in the sand or choose to know whats occurring.

Aight, enjoy finding non-verified things that support dehumanizing real life people I guess.

I ask because I'm willing to learn and grow in understanding. Have asked people I disagree with before, and they provide actual sourced backup, and I learn. While overall sentiments often aren't changed, it's still good to want to be accurate in your understanding and any criticism. (like with Somali fraud, people make big claims, and while I often still disagree with overall sentiment aka Somali people = inherently bad, which is how things are often communicated, at least after actual backup I know more about the details of what actually has happened and been prosecuted, etc). Saying people on max welfare are stealing and sending billions overseas should be pretty easy to find a court case for, assuming its actually happening and not just social media nonsense. I would even legitimately have an issue with it.

 

[St. Louis Hawk]

Imagine being this excited about deporting people who have followed the established rules.

And the usual suspects in this thread continue to cheer on the suffering of others.

 

[Scrubby]

Imagine being this excited about deporting people who have followed the established rules.

And the usual suspects in this thread continue to cheer on the suffering of others.

What does the word 'temporary' mean to you?

 

[Finance85]

OP, SCOTUS didn't give you the win you think they gave you and Trump. They simply interpreted the law and said Trump was following the law. The next POTUS can do what Biden did, and to some extent Obama with his DREAM EO, and ignore the law. In fact Trump has ignored many laws himself.

 

[Rifler]

OP, SCOTUS didn't give you the win you think they gave you and Trump. They simply interpreted the law and said Trump was following the law. The next POTUS can do what Biden did, and to some extent Obama with his DREAM EO, and ignore the law. In fact Trump has ignored many laws himself.

Feels like a win.

 

[Scrubby]

 

[Scrubby]

True..

 

[St. Louis Hawk]

What does the word 'temporary' mean to you?

I’ll start answering your questions when you answer mine about when you anticipate that the Secret Service and the DOJ will conclude their negotiations related to Obama’s surrender on treason and other charges - as you claimed.

 

[fatpiggy]

What does the word 'temporary' mean to you?

Didn’t the SCOTUS just say they didn’t follow the rules?

 

[St. Louis Hawk]

Didn’t the SCOTUS just say they didn’t follow the rules?

The Court did not say that. The Haitians seeking relief followed the rules.

Heres the opinion.

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/25pdf/25-1083_f204.pdf

 

[Scrubby]

 

[baltimorened]

Imagine being this excited about deporting people who have followed the established rules.

And the usual suspects in this thread continue to cheer on the suffering of others.

I know I'll get pushback - likely from both sides of this argument. but here's my opinion...First of all, no matter what anybody says, Temporary means temporary...and it should have been explained and made clear to anyone who came to the US under this program. Now, having said that, the ending of the program for selected groups should be just that selective. Do we need to deport everyone here under TPS? IMO, NO : there are people here who contribute to our society, who have American born children, and are assets to the US. But how do you break out those from the rest? I Don't know.

But the problem with TPS is that it has become a Democrat vs republican issue...democrats support it so republicans have to be against it...which is insane...just as programs republicans are for, democrats have to be against, just as insane.

It's crazy!!!

In a normal society, someone would stand in front of many others with the same belief and say "we need to come up with a program that will allow those here under TPS to apply for permanent residency and no one should be deported while there case is being decided". But that would require compromise....and we're way short of that trait these days.

 

[fatpiggy]

The Court did not say that. The Haitians seeking relief followed the rules.

Heres the opinion.

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/25pdf/25-1083_f204.pdf

The previous administration did not enforce the rules correctly?

That jives with my post above, we aren’t mad at the people themselves, we are mad at the people who didn’t do their jobs.