Greg has one of the lowest win percentages of any active coach

[ru66+]

There you go again. . . . . You should realize that you are attacking an esteemed FDNY firefighter. Many of us know e5fdny personally, and he does not have a mean bone in his body. As a matter of fact, I have personally witnessed several instances of e5 going out of his way in random acts of kindness to help others in times of need. He preceded his question with he meant no harm, but in your usual form, you go on the attack. You remind me of someone else who can't seem to handle truth and the simplest of questions or topics without attacking, denigrating and belittling others. Unfortunately, many acolytes of this person seem to have adopted the same behavior as de rigueur. I have news for you, it is not. It is a sad reflection on where we are. Hating people who disagree with you, name-calling, belittling others when they may have a reasoned, or a better position than you.

As for your last sentence, in what world outside of any employment setting is asking someone's age or year of graduation something that would get someone in a lot of trouble?

Obviously you answered your dumb question ---when you're interviewing someone for a job, or in your day to day interactions on the job or in life. .Better yet you must be very astute with women, asking anyone's age has no purpose. I guess you measure folks by how old they are? I have no idea what ed is about but I can surmise why he asked the question and so can a genius like yourself. And how do you know that he meant " no harm" ? There are more than many instances where guys on this board,have ridiculed someone's age and you're OK with them. By the way ,I can handle the truth just fine and maybe you anti Schiano " haters" are the ones who can't because you seem to be the guys who are intolerant of anyone daring to defend him. Try looking in the mirror--- I mean no harm. By the way, again, when did I ever comment about extending Schiano's contract---you got that wrong also--- prone to jumping to conclusions when you assume they're a Schiano advocate??

 

[Knight Shift]

Obviously you answered your dumb question ---when you're interviewing someone for a job, or in your day to day interactions on the job or in life. .Better yet you must be very astute with women, asking anyone's age has no purpose. I guess you measure folks by how old they are? I have no idea what ed is about but I can surmise why he asked the question and so can a genius like yourself. And how do you know that he meant " no harm" ? There are more than many instances where guys on this board,have ridiculed someone's age and you're OK with them. By the way ,I can handle the truth just fine and maybe you anti Schiano " haters" are the ones who can't because you seem to be the guys who are intolerant of anyone daring to defend him. Try looking in the mirror--- I mean no harm. By the way, again, when did I ever comment about extending Schiano's contract---you got that wrong also--- prone to jumping to conclusions when you assume they're a Schiano advocate??

Sir, please relax. You are unhinged. This is not a full frontal assault. Please calm down already.

You mixed apples and oranges here. In friendly banter at a gathering, in a bar, etc, some people do ask another person their age. Have been asked many times, and have asked others, and not once was it met with the reprobation in your post above.

And how do I know that he (e5, not ed) meant " no harm" ? Because he said so, I know him very well personally. You, on the other hand, I would not want to know, and at this point, you are best put on ignore.

The rest of your post is 100% incorrect. You seem to be either selectively reading, cherry picking what you want or have poor reading. comprehension.

Have a nice life, and if you can try a little to be nicer, you might find your experience more enjoyable and enlightening. Good luck to you.

Go RU (whoever the coach is).

 

[kupuna133]

Sir, please relax. You are unhinged. This is not a full frontal assault. Please calm down already.

You mixed apples and oranges here. In friendly banter at a gathering, in a bar, etc, some people do ask another person their age. Have been asked many times, and have asked others, and not once was it met with the reprobation in your post above.

And how do I know that he (e5, not ed) meant " no harm" ? Because he said so, I know him very well personally. You, on the other hand, I would not want to know, and at this point, you are best put on ignore.

The rest of your post is 100% incorrect. You seem to be either selectively reading, cherry picking what you want or have poor reading. comprehension.

Have a nice life, and if you can try a little to be nicer, you might find your experience more enjoyable and enlightening. Good luck to you.

Go RU (whoever the coach is).

Not to speak for e5 but 66’s moniker has a number in it he merely asked to define. To take offense is the definition of faux rage. It’s crazy. Look at his last 20 or so posts it’s everything he claims to take offense with everyone else.

 

[ru66+]

Sir, please relax. You are unhinged. This is not a full frontal assault. Please calm down already.

You mixed apples and oranges here. In friendly banter at a gathering, in a bar, etc, some people do ask another person their age. Have been asked many times, and have asked others, and not once was it met with the reprobation in your post above.

And how do I know that he (e5, not ed) meant " no harm" ? Because he said so, I know him very well personally. You, on the other hand, I would not want to know, and at this point, you are best put on ignore.

The rest of your post is 100% incorrect. You seem to be either selectively reading, cherry picking what you want or have poor reading. comprehension.

Have a nice life, and if you can try a little to be nicer, you might find your experience more enjoyable and enlightening. Good luck to you.

Go RU (whoever the coach is).

What an insincere response . But to satisfy you're dumb/dishonest justification-- I mean no harm, just asking for social purposes and I'm attesting to that--- what's your age, your occupation, where do you live and how much income do you earn and how much do you donate to RU as reported in your recently filed tax return. I mean no harm, I'm sincere. I'm just curious and want to evaluate your worth to these discussions . By the way you still haven't answereed my question about your statement -- when did I ever say Schiano should get an extension or even offer an opinion, one way or the other. Also I can't recall ever asking someone their age other than just now but you say you do it regularly in social settings--- aren't you special. .Try to be less of a pompous know it all, and maybe you'll be more likeable and enjoy your life more ---- oh yes and be more enlightened.Presumptuous aren't we. Look in the mirror.

 

[ru66+]

Not to speak for e5 but 66’s moniker has a number in it he merely asked to define. To take offense is the definition of faux rage. It’s crazy. Look at his last 20 or so posts it’s everything he claims to take offense with everyone else.

Another dishonest post and what a laugh. Define a number?? Why don't you two ask ed.. what was his purpose ?? Ever hear of route 66,or 66 main street,or 66 bottles of beer on a wall,--- does that make you feel informed . And by the way --faux rage, seriously???

 

[ru66+]

You sound like a real pleasant person to be around. Probably a lot of people disliked you and left your place of employment because of people like you. Never willing to consider or discuss an opposing viewpoint.

Forgot to answer this crap.Our firm was and is still privately owned by our over 1200 employees,although at differet levels of stock.Had many chances to go public or sell. To our credit we resisted and have many,many long term employees. To the contrary, Mr know nothhing,it's a fantastic,very successful place to work,earn and advance your professional career and I ,along with others mentored many of them.

 

[kupuna133]

Another dishonest post and what a laugh. Define a number?? Why don't you two ask ed.. what was his purpose ?? Ever hear of route 66,or 66 main street,or 66 bottles of beer on a wall,--- does that make you feel informed . And by the way --faux rage, seriously???

How is it dishonest? E5 literally asked what the 66 was in your moniker and mentioned graduation or birthdate for reference. How is that being dishonest. And once again you’re showing faux rage with this response. Or is it true rage. Are you really this miserable in real life? Why would you take offense to such a benign question? I

 

[Knight Shift]

How is it dishonest? E5 literally asked what the 66 was in your moniker and mentioned graduation or birthdate for reference. How is that being dishonest. And once again you’re showing faux rage with this response. Or is it true rage. Are you really this miserable in real life? Why would you take offense to such a benign question? I

This posts are from an IU fan--gee 8-4 or 9-3 are achievable for Rutgers:

IU fan chiming in. The defense is more talented this season. We lost ponds, and fisher. Both all Americans… we added talent at edge. Our offense, will be improved at every position except QB and TE. You’ll see more feast or famine from Hoover I believe, ie more explosives, but less of the methodical bludgeoning that Doza was able to bring. O-line we return 3 starters and brought in a very good senior guard from Wisconsin in Joe Brunner. RB room will be as good, and likely more homerun potential. Marsh and Becker can both conceivably go in the first round. I actually expect a good season out of Rutgers. I think 8-4 is the mark with 9-3 being achievable.

Gee, look at that, even an IU fan who comes to the board in peace is amazed at Greg's winning percentage. How can an IU fan be a hater of Greg?

Didn’t realize that was Schiano’s winning percentage. Yikes! Indiana spent roughly 18 million on last years roster, per Cig, and Indiana administration. This year will be higher, how much, I don’t know. They’ll have to do something to curb the NiL era eventually because soon, you’ll have about 10-12 teams year in and year out that can actually win. Indiana does have Cuban, but contrary to popular belief, he’s not cutting blank checks blindly. You don’t get to that level of wealth as a self made man if you don’t understand the value of a dollar. Yes the talent is more dispersed, but soon enough, you’ll start to see the big money schools buy very good players(not just the 5 stars, but even the lower 4 stars) and they’ll be okay with it, because some of these kids will be thinking, I can take 7 figures now and sit, and maybe I won’t play for awhile, but there are no guarantees I make it to the league and 7 figures for a lot of these kids is more money than parents would make in a lifetime. A good AD and administration backing the staff is invaluable, and we’re lucky that Whitten (president) and Dolson(ad) are so well aligned. Sneaky good move on our presidents part was she essentially tied her employment to Cignetti’s contract and is now literally tied to the university lol. If you guys do fire Schiano, I’d hope for a guy like Shannahan (IU’s OC), but please don’t take our DC Haines lol. I believe IU has offered him some type of a “head coach in waiting” position behind closed doors because I can’t see Cignetti being here more than 6/7 years. He’s 65, and at a certain point, you’ve got to live your life too. I hope they curb NIL at some point, because the last two seasons have been so fun as an IU fan. Others should be able to have that, plus, I’m a firm believer in the idea you have to have the bad times to appreciate the good. Winning is fun, but life is better when you have to work for things, and losing at times is a reminder of that. Best of luck to the scarlet knights this year!

 

[ru66+]

How is it dishonest? E5 literally asked what the 66 was in your moniker and mentioned graduation or birthdate for reference. How is that being dishonest. And once again you’re showing faux rage with this response. Or is it true rage. Are you really this miserable in real life? Why would you take offense to such a benign question? I

I'm referring to you genius-- you're the dishonest poster..You have no idea what his reason for asking yet you attest it's a innocent question-- again ask him yourself. I did just that. I'm not miserable ,I just don't take nonsense from fos guys like yourself.

 

[Knight Shift]

This posts are from an IU fan--gee 8-4 or 9-3 are achievable for Rutgers:





Gee, look at that, even an IU fan who comes to the board in peace is amazed at Greg's winning percentage. How can an IU fan be a hater of Greg?

The discussion with the Indiana fan got me wondering about Tom Allen:

33-49 (0.402) , 18-43 (0.030) in Conference over 6 years;

Greg 31-41 (0.431) //15-39 (0.278) in conference

The parallels are quite similar, except Allen really slid his last 3 years. But 2 winning seasons without bowl wins. Greg has one winning season.
NOTE- these are FACTS. Not HATE of anything.

2016		0–1	0–0	4th (East)
2017		5–7	2–7	7th (East)
2018		5–7	2–7	6th (East)
2019		8–5	5–4	4th (East)
2020		6–2	6–1	2nd (East)
2021		2–10	0–9	7th (East)
2022		4–8	2–7	6th (East)
2023		3–9	1–8	7th (East)
Indiana:	33–49	18–43

 

[RUTGERS95]

The discussion with the Indiana fan got me wondering about Tom Allen:

33-49 (0.402) , 18-43 (0.030) in Conference over 6 years;

Greg 31-41 (0.431) //15-39 (0.278) in conference

The parallels are quite similar, except Allen really slid his last 3 years. But 2 winning seasons without bowl wins. Greg has one winning season.
NOTE- these are FACTS. Not HATE of anything.

2016		0–1	0–0	4th (East)
2017		5–7	2–7	7th (East)
2018		5–7	2–7	6th (East)
2019		8–5	5–4	4th (East)
2020		6–2	6–1	2nd (East)
2021		2–10	0–9	7th (East)
2022		4–8	2–7	6th (East)
2023		3–9	1–8	7th (East)
Indiana:	33–49	18–43

sooooooooo the evidence continues to support that Greg does in fact, suck!

 

[Knight Shift]

sooooooooo the evidence continues to support that Greg does in fact, suck!

Is it ok to say we hate losing? Or would that make us haters?
That Indiana interaction was on another thread- he things RU could go 9-3 this year. Nobody would be mad about that, and I would be thrilled for Rutgers and Greg. When I pointed out his 2.0 record, he said "Yikes."

 

[kupuna133]

I'm referring to you genius-- you're the dishonest poster..You have no idea what his reason for asking yet you attest it's an innocent question-- again ask him yourself. I did just that. I'm not miserable ,I just don't take nonsense from fos guys like yourself.

Name calling again. You are everything you complain about on this board. Yet you ask everyone else to look in the mirror. You are the problem.



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Greg has one of the lowest win percentages of any active coach​

Quick question, and I mean no harm… Is the 66 your graduation year or the year you were born?

My response was verbatim what e5 said. Seems benign and respectful. You on the other hand.

 

[MADHAT1]

We can fuss, fight and carry-on about . Schiano all we want.
Liking Greg or dislike him is not the question , the answer is:
Rutgers has got to do better than being a program happy to go 7-5 and thinking 8-5 is a successful season .
The Rutgers fanbase needs to demand more seasons like 2006 and if the current HC can't return the program to that type, he needs to be replaced.

Greg Schiano must be praised for the way he raised RU Fans expectations in the GI era and how he gave hope in the beginning of the G2 era, but he doesn't deserve outright loyalty because he never made the Rutgers football program into anything but one year (2006) wonders and even that year didn't turn out to be how we thought it would after beating Louie . Lasing 2 of the last 3 conference games and being denied going to a major bowl or winning the BE Championship
Going 11-2 was/is something to be proud of, but the dream of a greatness following that type of year never materialize.
It's time to to refuse to accept 7-5 or 8-4 regular season records as the best RU can do and look on double digit wins as what we should expect from the RU FB HC .

With that said , I return you all to what some here seem intent on

 

[Knight Shift]

We can fuss, fight and carry-on about . Schiano all we want.
Liking Greg or dislike him is not the question , the answer is:
Rutgers has got to do better than being a program happy to go 7-5 and thinking 8-5 is a successful season .
The Rutgers fanbase needs to demand more seasons like 2006 and if the current HC can't return the program to that type, he needs to be replaced.

Greg Schiano must be praised for the way he raised RU Fans expectations in the GI era and how he gave hope in the beginning of the G2 era, but he doesn't deserve outright loyalty because he never made the Rutgers football program into anything but one year (2006) wonders and even that year didn't turn out to be how we thought it would after beating Louie . Lasing 2 of the last 3 conference games and being denied going to a major bowl or winning the BE Championship
Going 11-2 was/is something to be proud of, but the dream of a greatness following that type of year never materialize.
It's time to to refuse to accept 7-5 or 8-4 regular season records as the best RU can do and look on double digit wins as what we should expect from the RU FB HC .

With that said , I return you all to what some here seem intent on

 

[RUTGERS95]

We can fuss, fight and carry-on about . Schiano all we want.
Liking Greg or dislike him is not the question , the answer is:
Rutgers has got to do better than being a program happy to go 7-5 and thinking 8-5 is a successful season .
The Rutgers fanbase needs to demand more seasons like 2006 and if the current HC can't return the program to that type, he needs to be replaced.

Greg Schiano must be praised for the way he raised RU Fans expectations in the GI era and how he gave hope in the beginning of the G2 era, but he doesn't deserve outright loyalty because he never made the Rutgers football program into anything but one year (2006) wonders and even that year didn't turn out to be how we thought it would after beating Louie . Lasing 2 of the last 3 conference games and being denied going to a major bowl or winning the BE Championship
Going 11-2 was/is something to be proud of, but the dream of a greatness following that type of year never materialize.
It's time to to refuse to accept 7-5 or 8-4 regular season records as the best RU can do and look on double digit wins as what we should expect from the RU FB HC .

With that said , I return you all to what some here seem intent on

been preaching for ages, need to demand more

problem is, losing has become persistent and there is no winning attitude or sense of urgency to win now!

just look at this board where people will crow at going 6-6 and a bowl even though more than half the teams go to a bowl

 

[KnightClub]

you really have to be fair He started in his first 2 years going 3-20 following Shea and then, taking over for Ash 8-14 in his first two years. That is a combo of 11-34 taking over the worst two teams in the NCAA - that makes the rest of his years a combined 88-74 just saying

Luv me some simple logic which is missing in most fans.

 

[Knight Shift]

Luv me some simple logic which is missing in most fans.

Greg 2.0 is 9-18 in conference in years 4-6.

Luv me some simple desire to punch above out weight and win in conference is, which is missing from enablers.

 

[yesrutgers01]

Greg 2.0 is 9-18 in conference in years 4-6.

Luv me some simple desire to punch above out weight and win in conference is, which is missing from enablers.

I agree that Greg is no longer doing the job we need him to do. He did a great job to get us back to respect, but he is not the guy to get us the wins we need. GS 2.0 has yet to win games that he is supposed to lose.

But- the OP was about the entirety of his career, and I do have to call out the reality of it.

 

[RUTGERS95]

Luv me some simple logic which is missing in most fans.

reading is fundamental.......

LAST 4 YEARS OF EACH RIDE;
in 1.0 it was .573 and 2.0 it's .449 (in 1.0 during this time, he had 11 players drafters...ouch)

this puts him in #8 worst and #3 worst respectively

He is an absolutely horrid coach inside the stadium.

it's ok to feel below

 

[RUTGERS95]

I agree that Greg is no longer doing the job we need him to do. He did a great job to get us back to respect, but he is not the guy to get us the wins we need. GS 2.0 has yet to win games that he is supposed to lose.

But- the OP was about the entirety of his career, and I do have to call out the reality of it.

I posted more of the data throughout the thread. I'll also add that while Greg still shows he sucks in his final 4 years of each ride, he also had talent in 1.0 during those final 4 years. Greg also inherited some key players and producers from Ash.

it's fair to look at what he took over but he's not unique in this regard; evidenced in the thread as well

 

[Knight Shift]

I agree that Greg is no longer doing the job we need him to do. He did a great job to get us back to respect, but he is not the guy to get us the wins we need. GS 2.0 has yet to win games that he is supposed to lose.

But- the OP was about the entirety of his career, and I do have to call out the reality of it.

Yes, you at correct about the OP, but the thread has evolved into where are we now and where are we going. Just finished washing the 4 hours of 30/30 on ESPN on da U. What happened in 1.0 is totally irrelevant now. Look at what happened to every one of those winning teams from the old Big East. WVU, Syracuse, Pitt, VT, Louisville, BC' Miami. All relegated to irrelevance, except now Miami is finally back.

Looking at the present, as I had posted, it does not look good. This is a pivotal year, and in Keli Zinn's own words, Greg needs to get his teams to lunch above their weight. The excuses need to stop, as it always seems to be something new as to why he can't get over the hump.

 

[yesrutgers01]

I posted more of the data throughout the thread. I'll also add that while Greg still shows he sucks in his final 4 years of each ride, he also had talent in 1.0 during those final 4 years. Greg also inherited some key players and producers from Ash.

it's fair to look at what he took over but he's not unique in this regard; evidenced in the thread as well

Well, his final 4 in GS 1.0 didnt really suck. 2010 being the outliner.

 

[Knight Shift]

Well, his final 4 in GS 1.0 didnt really suck. 2010 being the outliner.

Ancient history. It's like looking at what happened in WWII, Korea and Vietnam and applying it to modern warfare. Quite useless.

 

[yesrutgers01]

Yes, you at correct about the OP, but the thread has evolved into where are we now and where are we going. Just finished washing the 4 hours of 30/30 on ESPN on da U. What happened in 1.0 is totally irrelevant now. Look at what happened to every one of those winning teams from the old Big East. WVU, Syracuse, Pitt, VT, Louisville, BC' Miami. All relegated to irrelevance, except now Miami is finally back.

Looking at the present, as I had posted, it does not look good. This is a pivotal year, and in Keli Zinn's own words, Greg needs to get his teams to lunch above their weight. The excuses need to stop, as it always seems to be something new as to why he can't get over the hump.

Leadership right now will not be worried about if certain donors want Greg. I really do believe she and Tate want to bring our Athletics to a place we haven't seen previously. They understand something very important to this University...As much as Academics/Research mean to our prestige - Football and to a lesser degree, MBB, drives the bus.
I see some people post how RU should pull back and be more like an Ivy- sounds great in theroy, as we know- so many people around the state want to make all these statements about the athletic deficit and they feel that pulling back on sports would be smart. What they are missing - the Ivy's have endowments and alumni support that make us look like a 5 y/o putting pennies into a piggy bank.

I don't see GS surviving another so so year with no big wins, losing conf record or no bowl. He needs to make the 2nd tier level of bowl games this year.

 

[Knight Shift]

Leadership right now will not be worried about if certain donors want Greg. I really do believe she and Tate want to bring our Athletics to a place we haven't seen previously. They understand something very important to this University...As much as Academics/Research mean to our prestige - Football and to a lesser degree, MBB, drives the bus.
I see some people post how RU should pull back and be more like an Ivy- sounds great in theroy, as we know- so many people around the state want to make all these statements about the athletic deficit and they feel that pulling back on sports would be smart. What they are missing - the Ivy's have endowments and alumni support that make us look like a 5 y/o putting pennies into a piggy bank.

I don't see GS surviving another so so year with no big wins, losing conf record or no bowl. He needs to make the 2nd tier level of bowl games this year.

Been thinking about Miami and their resurgence.

Cristobal's record:

• 2022: 5-7//3-5
• 2023: 7-6//3-5
• 2024: 10-3 //6-2 (first 10-win season since 2017)
• 2025: 13-3//6-2 College Football Playoff run (including wins over strong opponents), reached the National Championship Game.

What's strange is Manny Diaz,, who preceded Mario, was not doing badly. He was 21-15//16-9, and did not have a losing conference record.
And Mario was an uninspiring choice at the time. He was terrible as HC at FIU, 27-47//20-26. He was doing well (but not fantastic) at Oregon, which has had a long history of winning.

So what happened? And please, no "but it's the ACC-he got his team to the national championship and won 13 games IN HIS FOURTH SEASON!!!!

Ran the question through Grok, and this is what came out:

1. Elite Recruiting and Talent Acquisition
Cristobal is a proven elite recruiter (National Recruiter of the Year at Alabama, top classes at Oregon). At Miami, he's delivered multiple top-10 classes, emphasized keeping South Florida talent home, and built physical, tough lines (e.g., early five-star OL signees like Francis Mauigoa and Samson Okunlola). His approach focuses on high-character, high-work-ethic players who fit "The U" identity.

2. Aggressive NIL and Transfer Portal Use
Miami has leaned into the new era effectively. The program (with strong booster support, e.g., John Ruiz's collective) has used NIL to land high-end talent, including major transfers like QB Carson Beck from Georgia. This has accelerated roster upgrades beyond high school recruiting alone.

3. Culture, Work Ethic, and Physical Identity
Cristobal, a former Miami OL who won national titles in 1989 and 1991, has instilled a blue-collar, relentless, physical style ("batter and bruise"). He's known for extreme work hours (16–18-hour days), demanding staff/player buy-in, and rebuilding belief after two decades of mediocrity. The program emphasizes traditions, alumni involvement, and a "marathon" mentality that showed in late-season surges.


4. University and Resource Commitment
Miami made major hires (Cristobal + AD Dan Radakovich, architect of Clemson's success) with big salary pools. There's significant donor investment, university subsidies (including from UHealth), and a plan to compete for titles by Year 5. Facilities and support have improved, addressing past complacency.

Seems the new AD from Clemson made a difference, and of course, elite recruiting and NIL/transfer portal use. These are two items we have not yet seen at Rutgers. Greg supposedly had more money to work with, but RU did not light it up in the NIL portal. And the recruiting has certainly not been elite.

 

[RU Cheese]

I would take @ru66+ posts seriously. The guy repeats whatever Michael Kay says. He's a huge fanboy of Numbah Two. It's sad.

 

[Rutgers Chris]

Been thinking about Miami and their resurgence.

Cristobal's record:

• 2022: 5-7//3-5
• 2023: 7-6//3-5
• 2024: 10-3 //6-2 (first 10-win season since 2017)
• 2025: 13-3//6-2 College Football Playoff run (including wins over strong opponents), reached the National Championship Game.

What's strange is Manny Diaz,, who preceded Mario, was not doing badly. He was 21-15//16-9, and did not have a losing conference record.
And Mario was an uninspiring choice at the time. He was terrible as HC at FIU, 27-47//20-26. He was doing well (but not fantastic) at Oregon, which has had a long history of winning.

So what happened? And please, no "but it's the ACC-he got his team to the national championship and won 13 games IN HIS FOURTH SEASON!!!!

Ran the question through Grok, and this is what came out:

1. Elite Recruiting and Talent Acquisition
Cristobal is a proven elite recruiter (National Recruiter of the Year at Alabama, top classes at Oregon). At Miami, he's delivered multiple top-10 classes, emphasized keeping South Florida talent home, and built physical, tough lines (e.g., early five-star OL signees like Francis Mauigoa and Samson Okunlola). His approach focuses on high-character, high-work-ethic players who fit "The U" identity.

2. Aggressive NIL and Transfer Portal Use
Miami has leaned into the new era effectively. The program (with strong booster support, e.g., John Ruiz's collective) has used NIL to land high-end talent, including major transfers like QB Carson Beck from Georgia. This has accelerated roster upgrades beyond high school recruiting alone.

3. Culture, Work Ethic, and Physical Identity
Cristobal, a former Miami OL who won national titles in 1989 and 1991, has instilled a blue-collar, relentless, physical style ("batter and bruise"). He's known for extreme work hours (16–18-hour days), demanding staff/player buy-in, and rebuilding belief after two decades of mediocrity. The program emphasizes traditions, alumni involvement, and a "marathon" mentality that showed in late-season surges.


4. University and Resource Commitment
Miami made major hires (Cristobal + AD Dan Radakovich, architect of Clemson's success) with big salary pools. There's significant donor investment, university subsidies (including from UHealth), and a plan to compete for titles by Year 5. Facilities and support have improved, addressing past complacency.

Seems the new AD from Clemson made a difference, and of course, elite recruiting and NIL/transfer portal use. These are two items we have not yet seen at Rutgers. Greg supposedly had more money to work with, but RU did not light it up in the NIL portal. And the recruiting has certainly not been elite.

Amazing what an exciting coach can do for recruiting…


Sumrall too…

 

[Kbe4]

Amazing what an exciting coach can do for recruiting…


Sumrall too…

That's funny when you consider how many blue-chip commitments Rutgers has had in its entire history.

 

[MADHAT1]

Been thinking about Miami and their resurgence.

Cristobal's record:

• 2022: 5-7//3-5
• 2023: 7-6//3-5
• 2024: 10-3 //6-2 (first 10-win season since 2017)
• 2025: 13-3//6-2 College Football Playoff run (including wins over strong opponents), reached the National Championship Game.

What's strange is Manny Diaz,, who preceded Mario, was not doing badly. He was 21-15//16-9, and did not have a losing conference record.
And Mario was an uninspiring choice at the time. He was terrible as HC at FIU, 27-47//20-26. He was doing well (but not fantastic) at Oregon, which has had a long history of winning.

So what happened? And please, no "but it's the ACC-he got his team to the national championship and won 13 games IN HIS FOURTH SEASON!!!!

Ran the question through Grok, and this is what came out:

1. Elite Recruiting and Talent Acquisition
Cristobal is a proven elite recruiter (National Recruiter of the Year at Alabama, top classes at Oregon). At Miami, he's delivered multiple top-10 classes, emphasized keeping South Florida talent home, and built physical, tough lines (e.g., early five-star OL signees like Francis Mauigoa and Samson Okunlola). His approach focuses on high-character, high-work-ethic players who fit "The U" identity.

2. Aggressive NIL and Transfer Portal Use
Miami has leaned into the new era effectively. The program (with strong booster support, e.g., John Ruiz's collective) has used NIL to land high-end talent, including major transfers like QB Carson Beck from Georgia. This has accelerated roster upgrades beyond high school recruiting alone.

3. Culture, Work Ethic, and Physical Identity
Cristobal, a former Miami OL who won national titles in 1989 and 1991, has instilled a blue-collar, relentless, physical style ("batter and bruise"). He's known for extreme work hours (16–18-hour days), demanding staff/player buy-in, and rebuilding belief after two decades of mediocrity. The program emphasizes traditions, alumni involvement, and a "marathon" mentality that showed in late-season surges.


4. University and Resource Commitment
Miami made major hires (Cristobal + AD Dan Radakovich, architect of Clemson's success) with big salary pools. There's significant donor investment, university subsidies (including from UHealth), and a plan to compete for titles by Year 5. Facilities and support have improved, addressing past complacency.

Seems the new AD from Clemson made a difference, and of course, elite recruiting and NIL/transfer portal use. These are two items we have not yet seen at Rutgers. Greg supposedly had more money to work with, but RU did not light it up in the NIL portal. And the recruiting has certainly not been elite.

Before Super Mario the strong winds might not have been considered playoff contenders, but weren't too shabby.
So the man had something to work with , compared to what he would have inherited from Ash.
I'm not making like Greg is better, just pointing out starting points were different

2016	Mark Richt	9–4	5–3	T–2nd (Coastal)	W Russell Athletic	23	20
2017	Mark Richt	10–3	7–1	1st (Coastal)	L Orange†	11	13
2018	Mark Richt	7–6	4–4	3rd (Coastal)	L Pinstripe
Manny Diaz (ACC) (2019–2021)
2019	Manny Diaz	6–7	4–4	3rd (Coastal)	L Independence
2020	Manny Diaz	8–3	7–2	3rd	L Cheez-It	22	22
2021	Manny Diaz	7–5	5–3	2nd (Coastal)	CX Sun[n 7]

 

[Caliknight]

If the dans are going to demand more, they need to donate more. DeadbeatAl is actually right about that. He’s just part of the problem. The school has more than made the investment. The rest is on the fans. Hopefully the next coach can inspire more.

 

[Knight Shift]

Before Super Mario the strong winds might not have been considered playoff contenders, but weren't too shabby.
So the man had something to work with , compared to what he would have inherited from Ash.
I'm not making like Greg is better, just pointing out starting points were different

2016	Mark Richt	9–4	5–3	T–2nd (Coastal)	W Russell Athletic	23	20
2017	Mark Richt	10–3	7–1	1st (Coastal)	L Orange†	11	13
2018	Mark Richt	7–6	4–4	3rd (Coastal)	L Pinstripe
Manny Diaz (ACC) (2019–2021)
2019	Manny Diaz	6–7	4–4	3rd (Coastal)	L Independence
2020	Manny Diaz	8–3	7–2	3rd	L Cheez-It	22	22
2021	Manny Diaz	7–5	5–3	2nd (Coastal)	CX Sun[n 7]

Fair point, but I was not comparing Rutgers and Miami. Miami was decent but not top shelf until they got the new AD from Clemson and made investments. The climb from the middle of the mountain to the championship game top of the mountain is steeper than climbing out of the basement or mediocre. Just ask Penn State, Notre Dame and Texas, among others.

Will RU's investments get RU from where they are to higher on the mountain than 6-6/3-6 to a winning conference record and knocking off ranked teams? Time will tell

 

[RU#1fan]

I agree that Greg is no longer doing the job we need him to do. He did a great job to get us back to respect, but he is not the guy to get us the wins we need. GS 2.0 has yet to win games that he is supposed to lose.

But- the OP was about the entirety of his career, and I do have to call out the reality of it.

Anybody would look good after the Ash dumpster fire. Time to move after this season if we don’t see a significant improvement.

 

[Caliknight]

hopefully

no offense taken but I think you are wrong. Football drives the bus, that is not even debatable and we lack any success there. The reason why I think this is because until we right football, no area is going to succeed in a meaningful way to help the school the way it is needed. Resources are limited so you need to prioritize what is most important along what timeline. I am already suspect of her big picture understand given the support of the PE deal. it's a fair discussion on resource allocation and merit

it's quite simple, fix football or face future considerations

That was what was said when all funds were directed to football 1.0. And it only made everything else fail. I’ll say it again, you can’t point to one B1G or Sec school that operates how you are suggesting. Keli is not operating that way either. Football gets more than enough institutional support. More than it’s earned. The rest is on the fans.

 

[yesrutgers01]

That was what was said when all funds were directed to football 1.0. And it only made everything else fail. I’ll say it again, you can’t point to one B1G or Sec school that operates how you are suggesting. Keli is not operating that way either. Football gets more than enough institutional support. More than it’s earned. The rest is on the fans.

You are both pretty much correct. Football does drive the bus but, monies and support to other athletics are important. NJ dies have a huge football heritage but Soccer, Lacrosse, T&F, Baseball…are ingrained into us.

when you say football gets more than enough, are you talking to survive or win?

we can’t skimp on tge other sports- they matter a ton- but we can’t say football gets more than enough, because, up until now, that has not been true.

I do think Keli gets it, as does Tate. We will see a lot of things turn the right way.

 

[Fat Koko]

Football's share of Rutgers athletics spending was in high 20s of athletic department spending for many years. Then, Greg 2.0 arrived and football immediately began vacuuming up a growing share of the athletic department's spending budget.

 

[RUTGERS95]

Football's share of Rutgers athletics spending was in high 20s share of Rutgers athletic department spending for many years. Then, Greg 2.0 arrived and football immediately began vacuuming up a growing share of the athletic department's spending budget.
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any idea how this compares, as a percent, to other BIG teams across all sports?

 

[Fat Koko]

any idea how this compares, as a percent, to other BIG teams across all sports?

Yes, here are historical numbers for the 16 public B1G schools going back to fiscal 2018, the earliest data I have for all the schools.

Note: Comparisons between schools for this metric are difficult because some schools (Washington) count football stadium debt service as a football expense while other schools (Rutgers) count football stadium debt service as a non-sport specific expense.

 

[rutgersal_rivals139582]

Football's share of Rutgers athletics spending was in high 20s of athletic department spending for many years. Then, Greg 2.0 arrived and football immediately began vacuuming up a growing share of the athletic department's spending budget.
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Rutgers Football brings in 39% of the revenue. So the expense level makes sense.

 

[Caliknight]

You are both pretty much correct. Football does drive the bus but, monies and support to other athletics are important. NJ dies have a huge football heritage but Soccer, Lacrosse, T&F, Baseball…are ingrained into us.

when you say football gets more than enough, are you talking to survive or win?

we can’t skimp on tge other sports- they matter a ton- but we can’t say football gets more than enough, because, up until now, that has not been true.

I do think Keli gets it, as does Tate. We will see a lot of things turn the right way.

Compare Rutgers expenditures on football to other Big Ten schools. We spend at Oregon levels as an institution. So enough to win at that level. The difference is NIL. Oregon has a lot more. That’s on the fans.