FC/OT: NCAA approves new 5 year eligibility model.
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So what do we do with Will Fries’s redshirt??
I know people are going to hate this but it's truly the fairest solution
Well they had to do something and this may not be perfect, but it as fair as it can be while avoiding any more law suits.
Call Will and let him know his eligibility is exhausted and it can't be passed on to another player.
A step in the right direction to fix College Football.
Next step- One time transfer without penalty
Next step- One time transfer without penalty
Make that 2.0 and you'd might have a chance lolAnd must maintain a >3.0 GPA to remain eligible.
What did this fix? How would a one-time transfer without penalty help the student-athletes? All that'll do is bring more lawsuits, and, since the NCAA, and other stakeholders, don't have their legal ducks in a row, they'll likely lose that one, too ... and bust open even more unintended consequences.
Why is the "answer" always to restrict rights of student-athletes? That's not where the problem lies.
NCAA Division I Cabinet OK's 5-year, age-based eligibility
The NCAA Division I Cabinet unanimously approved a new five-year, age-based eligibility model. This marks a win for the NCAA as it attempts to bring consistency to the landscape.
www.espn.com
So, wait ... a "normal" path would have an 18-year-old graduate from high school. They'd turn 19 during their freshman year of college, and they'd graduate in 4 years, at the age of 22. Yeah, there are exceptions - like I was 17 entering college, and some majors require or almost require 5 years to graduate ... but that's the "normal" path. So, is this saying they can turn 19 in, let's say March of 2027, and then enroll in school the FOLLOWING academic year (so 27-28 ... meaning they'll turn 20 in their frosh year) and have 5 years to compete, meaning they can play until they're 25? I know we have that now ... but now they're trying to "codify" it as acceptable, rather than bringing it to something more closely relating the "normal" academic path? Oh well, just more of the same ... we see this all the time now ... people starting their kids late, hoping it'll help them in athletics going forward. Then they dump them into a fancy private high school and flunk them to repeat 9th grade there. And/or they'll take a post-grad year, even after they use the previously mentioned advantages. This will do little to nothing to prevent this. I'm just glad my kids are smart, and don't have to worry about playing these age-games.
"The clock starts upon initial full-time enrollment in college or at the beginning of the academic year following their 19th birthday, whichever occurs first."NCAA Division I Cabinet OK's 5-year, age-based eligibility
The NCAA Division I Cabinet unanimously approved a new five-year, age-based eligibility model. This marks a win for the NCAA as it attempts to bring consistency to the landscape.
It’s a positive step but yes holding kids back a year to reclassify or going to a post grad school will be more common
So, wait ... a "normal" path would have an 18-year-old graduate from high school. They'd turn 19 during their freshman year of college, and they'd graduate in 4 years, at the age of 22. Yeah, there are exceptions - like I was 17 entering college, and some majors require or almost require 5 years to graduate ... but that's the "normal" path. So, is this saying they can turn 19 in, let's say March of 2027, and then enroll in school the FOLLOWING academic year (so 27-28 ... meaning they'll turn 20 in their frosh year) and have 5 years to compete, meaning they can play until they're 25? I know we have that now ... but now they're trying to "codify" it as acceptable, rather than bringing it to something more closely relating the "normal" academic path? Oh well, just more of the same ... we see this all the time now ... people starting their kids late, hoping it'll help them in athletics going forward. Then they dump them into a fancy private high school and flunk them to repeat 9th grade there. And/or they'll take a post-grad year, even after they use the previously mentioned advantages. This will do little to nothing to prevent this. I'm just glad my kids are smart, and don't have to worry about playing these age-games.
It’s a good first step to getting rid of all of this ridiculous. But yes, it will lead to parents holding their kids back a year to reclassify and then sending them to a post graduate year after high school school.
Tough to stop the over-inflated idiocy of a parent before they enroll. At least with these rules the timeline begins and ends. No extra year with medical or any other nonsense. The same clock pauses apply as before. military, pregnancy and mission. Show up, play, move on."The clock starts upon initial full-time enrollment in college or at the beginning of the academic year following their 19th birthday, whichever occurs first."NCAA Division I Cabinet OK's 5-year, age-based eligibility
The NCAA Division I Cabinet unanimously approved a new five-year, age-based eligibility model. This marks a win for the NCAA as it attempts to bring consistency to the landscape.
So, wait ... a "normal" path would have an 18-year-old graduate from high school. They'd turn 19 during their freshman year of college, and they'd graduate in 4 years, at the age of 22. Yeah, there are exceptions - like I was 17 entering college, and some majors require or almost require 5 years to graduate ... but that's the "normal" path. So, is this saying they can turn 19 in, let's say March of 2027, and then enroll in school the FOLLOWING academic year (so 27-28 ... meaning they'll turn 20 in their frosh year) and have 5 years to compete, meaning they can play until they're 25? I know we have that now ... but now they're trying to "codify" it as acceptable, rather than bringing it to something more closely relating the "normal" academic path? Oh well, just more of the same ... we see this all the time now ... people starting their kids late, hoping it'll help them in athletics going forward. Then they dump them into a fancy private high school and flunk them to repeat 9th grade there. And/or they'll take a post-grad year, even after they use the previously mentioned advantages. This will do little to nothing to prevent this. I'm just glad my kids are smart, and don't have to worry about playing these age-games.
Yeah...restricting the number of transfers won't go anywhere. It was always ridiculous to penalize someone from transferring. That only benefited the program.
I don't see how it gets rid of any ridiculousness ... it actually solidifies the ridiculousness as acceptable. I guess, maybe, it gets rid of endless medical waiver type situations .. and it heads off the "JUCO doesn't count" eligibility workaround, but that's about it.
But, yeah, I don't think anything new/extra was needed to have parents hold kids back, flunk them in school, and go post-grad ... that's the status quo up this way anymore.
I can use baseball as an example, since my kids are/were heavily involved in it ... even Perfect Game is feeding into it ... their tourneys are supposed to be age-based, but they've made them so it's "lower of age or graduating class" ... so, for example, a 16U tourney (normally 2028 grad baseline, with some "young" 2027 grads) can have kids who are currently 18 years old, but graduating HS in 2028. Last year, my older son was on a 17U squad that had a 19 year old on it ... his dad was saying if he didn't get a D1 offer, he was going to do a post-grad year. Kid wasn't a late-bloomer or underdeveloped ... he was the size of a D1 TE, and was 3-time all-conference at a 80K per year prep school. So, under these rules ... yeah, he would have lost a year of college eligibility doing that, but he still would have had 4 years of eligibility left. He got his D1 offer, though, and took it. There are a lot of other kids already doing something similar.
That's a valid exception IMOI see an age discrimination lawsuit possibility here.
Interesting they still have the BYU exemption.
I was surprised pregnancy was included but I get it.
It gets rid of 6th year and beyond. Plus the 26 year old senior who went to prep school at 19 then redshirted
Do you expect the same restriction to apply to coaches? Those guys that give players and parents their “word to stay” only to bolt to the next highest bidder?
This will result in an immediate lawsuit.
Do that and the top dogs in CFB will change.And must maintain a >3.0 GPA to remain eligible.
Eh, I dunno. The pressure to inflate grades is already quite intense. Moot point anyway.
I realize that college is alot of fun, but you got to get on with your life.
Yeah, so like I said, it heads off some relatively new limited zaniness, and codifies previously existing zaniness. That kid who attended prep school at 19, will have 5 years of eligibility, as the clock starts to toll in the following academic year. So, while he won't have a "redshirt," he'll actually have expanded eligibility ... 5 to play 5, instead of 5 to play 4. If the summary I linked is correct, the 5 years doesn't start to toll until AFTER that 19-year-old prep school year.
The norm should be start at 18, graduate at 22. They're still allowing 25 year olds to play this way.
Of all the worlds I have lived in this is my least favorite so far.
Unless I'm missing something--this was expected
The HS class of 22 was going to have a bunch of people claim they were robbed of a 5th year--they'll likely win that argument
Any time you make a necessary change like this (at least necessary IMO) you're going to have lawsuits from people that didn't benefit from it
I don't care if they win or not but expect they will--and the NCAA knew this
This entire process is possibly the most sensible thing the NCAA has done in decades
People seem upset the HS Class of 22 filed suit. Of course they did. If you read the 3 pages we were provided it's clear they have a case. And the NCAA was fully prepared for this. They'll likely grant them eligibility and then things can be uniformed moving forward. No more battles or medical RSs or JUCOs or anything else. A clearly defined standard.
The NCAA is a disaster but this isn't something that should be creating anger, frustration, etc. This is finally a good decision.
Fits with being a chemist, too.This is your spirit meme…
Mbe34... multi state bar examination consisting of 34 practice questions. Given the content of Loados screeds, he didn't pass. The only one dumber than him was the clown Titlemoron.
Titlemoron was barred from Pittsburgh sports call in shows because of his irrational hatred and obsession with Paterno and Penn State, and for calling in delusional garbage.
Titlemoron was barred from Pittsburgh sports call in shows because of his irrational hatred and obsession with Paterno and Penn State, and for calling in delusional garbage.