Ready to fill your car with Iranian gas this summer?

Torbee

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I don't know about you, but all this winning is amazing!

We can now help directly fund Iran's future nuclear weapons program thank's to Trump's "excursion."

Thanks to Trump You Can Now Fill Your Car with Iranian Gasoline!​


Jonathan V. Last
Jun 23, 2026

Iran Wins

Donald Trump and JD Vance’s slow-motion surrender continues in Switzerland. Yesterday the United States showed its full-spectrum dominance and strength by . . . giving the Islamic Republic a license to sell crude oil and petroleum products on the open market.

This is a surrender of the sanctions regime which has been built up over decades. And the best part?

Trump has agreed to let Iran sell oil to America.

Here’s Bloomberg:

The waiver even allows the US to import Iranian crude oil and other petrochemical and petroleum products, opening the door for the first such shipments in decades. . . .
“This waiver doesn’t just weaken the pressure campaign—it puts it into reverse,” said Brett Erickson, a managing principal at Obsidian Risk Advisors. “Washington spent months building economic leverage and weeks handing Iran a path around it. What took months to build will be dismantled in a fraction of the time.” . . .
Iran had already been rushing to get millions of barrels of its oil into the global market since the peace pact with the US was announced last week. . . .
Iran also has a large fleet of ships that can deliver the country’s cargoes.
The Treasury’s move on Monday also allows for movement of the cargoes on previously sanctioned vessels.
However bad this looks, the reality is worse. Let’s talk about who holds the cards, shall we? Hint: It’s not the American president.


(1) Cui bono? At first blush it seems like only Iran benefits from this concession. Their tankers become unsanctioned. They get to move millions of barrels of oil. They get to sell their oil at market price instead of having to take a gray-market haircut. They get access to hard currency, routed through normal banking channels.

But Trump is getting something, too. He needs Iranian oil in the marketplace as much—or possibly even more—than the Iranians need cash. Bloomberg again:

A potential flood of Iranian oil into the global market is also fueling growing expectations for a near-term glut of supplies, with prices falling to levels not seen since the war began in late February.
Trump is so desperate to get gas prices down that he’s maximizing the flow of oil globally and he doesn’t care who makes money off of it. Which means that even here, it’s the Iranians who have leverage over Trump. Trump needs their oil in the global supply market more than they need cash.

Oops.


(2) We are not going back. It’s funny that the license Trump and Vance granted Iran is only for sixty days. That makes it seem like it’s just a trial period and America could decide to cancel it, or not renew.

The problem is, once Iranian oil is in the international supply line, they have

Trump over a barrel.1 For Trump to restrict their supply again would mean pushing oil prices up again. I promise you: There will be strong market incentives for Trump to maintain the new status quo.

And then there’s foreign pressure. Having Iranian oil flowing, in the open, will be immensely helpful to China, India, Japan, and the rest of Asia. China has leverage over Trump in many areas. India and Japan are, supposedly, keystone allies. If it looks like Trump is going to pull the Iranian license and return to sanctions, a lot of countries will have an interest in pressuring America not to do so.

The status quo will be powerful; Trump is only pretending that he might return to sanctions. This is the new normal.

What did America get in return? The Iranians agreed to keep talking to us about other things we can give them in the hopes that, maybe, eventually, they’ll also agree to talk to us about making some promises about their future pursuit of nuclear materials.


(3) Incentives. America and Iran are at odds. But Trump’s and Iran’s incentives are aligned.

First, Trump needs oil supply to help his political position; the Iranians want cash. So the mullahs can give Trump what he needs and get what they want in return.

Second, Trump / MAGA / America First don’t want to enforce international law and be responsible for the freedom of navigation which undergirds the global economic order. And the mullahs want to annex control of the Strait of Hormuz—again, they’re aligned.

Third, while it is important for Trump that Iran not test a nuclear weapon while he is in office, he does not care—at all—what comes after that. He’s 80. What does it matter to him if the Iranians are a nuclear power in 2035 or 2040? And the Iranians will be happy to quietly move toward nukes while giving Trump the plausible deniability he needs to pretend that he got an amazing deal. Their nuclear program is safer than ever, because as soon as Trump signs on the line that is dotted, Iran can announce that if anyone attacks them again for any reason, they’ll close the strait again.

Pete Hegseth’s Defense Department says that one of the accomplishments of the Iran war was to “reestablish deterrence.” They must mean Iran’s deterrence. Against us.

I hope America likes losing. Because paying for the privilege of buying Iranian gasoline is just the start.

 

hopefultiger13

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What's the biggest damn shame is that we had a deal made by Obama that looks to be in EVERY RESPECT as good or better than the deal Trump/Vance made. Now unlike you folks on here, I don't really have much insite into how good Obama's deal really was. I know Iran got some money from US (that was supposedly theirs orginally). We seem to be giving them a ton more than that this time around. We had UN inspectors, Israel Inspectors, and US inspectors. Now we are going to have UN inspectors. They couldn't have enriched uranium under Obama, and they shipped it out of the country leaving just a bit for research. It all stays under Trump. Neither deal included balistic missles and both called for phased removal of sanctions and unfreezing of their money.

So I think the BEST you can say is that this new deal is a return to the old deal. And you can CERTAINLY make the argument that it's substantially worse. Vance claims this is a classic Trump deal. To semi quote John Stewart, it IS a Classic Trump deal: You start off with grandiose claims about how the deal is the best deal ever and everything that you are going to get. THEN you sign the deal and it turns out that you shiiit the bed. THEN you claim that bed shiiit was the goal of the deal all along. Finally, you name the deal after Trump.

Again, I actually am not that upset about the deal. Trump f'd up BIG TIME. He made a bunch of claims that were total BS. And when deal time came around, we (the US) got nothing and Iran got a lot. AT LEAST Trump apparently KNEW he F'd up and just cut and ran. And as humiliating that is, it's better than hanging around for 20 years spending TONS more money and THEN we cut and run.

It's just a damn shame that we didn't keep the deal that Trump pulled us out of. Because we'd be in the same spot with a bunch more money and Iran would have a lot less money.

It's kind of like our dealing with Canada. Apparently the US/Canada deals were terrible for the US. But who actually MADE those deals? Remeber when the NAFTA was redone back in 2018 and all those deals were set up? Didn't Trump make or at least approve those deals he trashes? Asking for a friend.

I'm just not sure how good our deal maker in chief really is at security deals for our country. To be fair, he does seem to be doing well for himself though. So MAGA should be happy. America Trump 1st!
 

alaskanseminole

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Ready to fill your car with Iranian gas this summer?​

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Riveting

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I don't know about you, but all this winning is amazing!

We can now help directly fund Iran's future nuclear weapons program thank's to Trump's "excursion."

Thanks to Trump You Can Now Fill Your Car with Iranian Gasoline!​


Jonathan V. Last
Jun 23, 2026

Iran Wins​

Donald Trump and JD Vance’s slow-motion surrender continues in Switzerland. Yesterday the United States showed its full-spectrum dominance and strength by . . . giving the Islamic Republic a license to sell crude oil and petroleum products on the open market.

This is a surrender of the sanctions regime which has been built up over decades. And the best part?

Trump has agreed to let Iran sell oil to America.

Here’s Bloomberg:


However bad this looks, the reality is worse. Let’s talk about who holds the cards, shall we? Hint: It’s not the American president.


(1) Cui bono? At first blush it seems like only Iran benefits from this concession. Their tankers become unsanctioned. They get to move millions of barrels of oil. They get to sell their oil at market price instead of having to take a gray-market haircut. They get access to hard currency, routed through normal banking channels.

But Trump is getting something, too. He needs Iranian oil in the marketplace as much—or possibly even more—than the Iranians need cash. Bloomberg again:


Trump is so desperate to get gas prices down that he’s maximizing the flow of oil globally and he doesn’t care who makes money off of it. Which means that even here, it’s the Iranians who have leverage over Trump. Trump needs their oil in the global supply market more than they need cash.

Oops.


(2) We are not going back. It’s funny that the license Trump and Vance granted Iran is only for sixty days. That makes it seem like it’s just a trial period and America could decide to cancel it, or not renew.

The problem is, once Iranian oil is in the international supply line, they have

Trump over a barrel.1 For Trump to restrict their supply again would mean pushing oil prices up again. I promise you: There will be strong market incentives for Trump to maintain the new status quo.

And then there’s foreign pressure. Having Iranian oil flowing, in the open, will be immensely helpful to China, India, Japan, and the rest of Asia. China has leverage over Trump in many areas. India and Japan are, supposedly, keystone allies. If it looks like Trump is going to pull the Iranian license and return to sanctions, a lot of countries will have an interest in pressuring America not to do so.

The status quo will be powerful; Trump is only pretending that he might return to sanctions. This is the new normal.

What did America get in return? The Iranians agreed to keep talking to us about other things we can give them in the hopes that, maybe, eventually, they’ll also agree to talk to us about making some promises about their future pursuit of nuclear materials.


(3) Incentives. America and Iran are at odds. But Trump’s and Iran’s incentives are aligned.

First, Trump needs oil supply to help his political position; the Iranians want cash. So the mullahs can give Trump what he needs and get what they want in return.

Second, Trump / MAGA / America First don’t want to enforce international law and be responsible for the freedom of navigation which undergirds the global economic order. And the mullahs want to annex control of the Strait of Hormuz—again, they’re aligned.

Third, while it is important for Trump that Iran not test a nuclear weapon while he is in office, he does not care—at all—what comes after that. He’s 80. What does it matter to him if the Iranians are a nuclear power in 2035 or 2040? And the Iranians will be happy to quietly move toward nukes while giving Trump the plausible deniability he needs to pretend that he got an amazing deal. Their nuclear program is safer than ever, because as soon as Trump signs on the line that is dotted, Iran can announce that if anyone attacks them again for any reason, they’ll close the strait again.

Pete Hegseth’s Defense Department says that one of the accomplishments of the Iran war was to “reestablish deterrence.” They must mean Iran’s deterrence. Against us.

I hope America likes losing. Because paying for the privilege of buying Iranian gasoline is just the start.

Ridiculous. The US is not and will not be buying oil from Iran.

Take a break from your Trump fantasies and provide a link that indicates otherwise if you doubt that.
 

Flie_rivals154594

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Start a road trip friday, hopefully gas won't be $7/gal across the west.


MAGA in unison: "That's because you live in a blue state; gas is $.39 here in Arkansas"

Granted, I get this type of rebuttal on social media while living in the great blue state of Florida. I was called a liar for saying I paid $3.89 a week or two ago. You can't fool the MAGAs with reality. They have Trump Truth to counter reality. Gas is "down" to the $3.50-$3.75 range here now at least. At this pace we will be back to 2024 gas prices by 2028!
 

bdgan

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I don't know about you, but all this winning is amazing!

We can now help directly fund Iran's future nuclear weapons program thank's to Trump's "excursion."

Thanks to Trump You Can Now Fill Your Car with Iranian Gasoline!​


Jonathan V. Last
Jun 23, 2026

Iran Wins​

Donald Trump and JD Vance’s slow-motion surrender continues in Switzerland. Yesterday the United States showed its full-spectrum dominance and strength by . . . giving the Islamic Republic a license to sell crude oil and petroleum products on the open market.

This is a surrender of the sanctions regime which has been built up over decades. And the best part?

Trump has agreed to let Iran sell oil to America.

Here’s Bloomberg:


However bad this looks, the reality is worse. Let’s talk about who holds the cards, shall we? Hint: It’s not the American president.


(1) Cui bono? At first blush it seems like only Iran benefits from this concession. Their tankers become unsanctioned. They get to move millions of barrels of oil. They get to sell their oil at market price instead of having to take a gray-market haircut. They get access to hard currency, routed through normal banking channels.

But Trump is getting something, too. He needs Iranian oil in the marketplace as much—or possibly even more—than the Iranians need cash. Bloomberg again:


Trump is so desperate to get gas prices down that he’s maximizing the flow of oil globally and he doesn’t care who makes money off of it. Which means that even here, it’s the Iranians who have leverage over Trump. Trump needs their oil in the global supply market more than they need cash.

Oops.


(2) We are not going back. It’s funny that the license Trump and Vance granted Iran is only for sixty days. That makes it seem like it’s just a trial period and America could decide to cancel it, or not renew.

The problem is, once Iranian oil is in the international supply line, they have

Trump over a barrel.1 For Trump to restrict their supply again would mean pushing oil prices up again. I promise you: There will be strong market incentives for Trump to maintain the new status quo.

And then there’s foreign pressure. Having Iranian oil flowing, in the open, will be immensely helpful to China, India, Japan, and the rest of Asia. China has leverage over Trump in many areas. India and Japan are, supposedly, keystone allies. If it looks like Trump is going to pull the Iranian license and return to sanctions, a lot of countries will have an interest in pressuring America not to do so.

The status quo will be powerful; Trump is only pretending that he might return to sanctions. This is the new normal.

What did America get in return? The Iranians agreed to keep talking to us about other things we can give them in the hopes that, maybe, eventually, they’ll also agree to talk to us about making some promises about their future pursuit of nuclear materials.


(3) Incentives. America and Iran are at odds. But Trump’s and Iran’s incentives are aligned.

First, Trump needs oil supply to help his political position; the Iranians want cash. So the mullahs can give Trump what he needs and get what they want in return.

Second, Trump / MAGA / America First don’t want to enforce international law and be responsible for the freedom of navigation which undergirds the global economic order. And the mullahs want to annex control of the Strait of Hormuz—again, they’re aligned.

Third, while it is important for Trump that Iran not test a nuclear weapon while he is in office, he does not care—at all—what comes after that. He’s 80. What does it matter to him if the Iranians are a nuclear power in 2035 or 2040? And the Iranians will be happy to quietly move toward nukes while giving Trump the plausible deniability he needs to pretend that he got an amazing deal. Their nuclear program is safer than ever, because as soon as Trump signs on the line that is dotted, Iran can announce that if anyone attacks them again for any reason, they’ll close the strait again.

Pete Hegseth’s Defense Department says that one of the accomplishments of the Iran war was to “reestablish deterrence.” They must mean Iran’s deterrence. Against us.

I hope America likes losing. Because paying for the privilege of buying Iranian gasoline is just the start.

IIRC Iran's oil exports surged to record highs after Obama lifted sanctions.

Regardless, virtually no Iranian oil comes to the USA.
 
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RagnarLothbrok

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What's the biggest damn shame is that we had a deal made by Obama that looks to be in EVERY RESPECT as good or better than the deal Trump/Vance made. Now unlike you folks on here, I don't really have much insite into how good Obama's deal really was. I know Iran got some money from US (that was supposedly theirs orginally). We seem to be giving them a ton more than that this time around. We had UN inspectors, Israel Inspectors, and US inspectors. Now we are going to have UN inspectors. They couldn't have enriched uranium under Obama, and they shipped it out of the country leaving just a bit for research. It all stays under Trump. Neither deal included balistic missles and both called for phased removal of sanctions and unfreezing of their money.

So I think the BEST you can say is that this new deal is a return to the old deal. And you can CERTAINLY make the argument that it's substantially worse. Vance claims this is a classic Trump deal. To semi quote John Stewart, it IS a Classic Trump deal: You start off with grandiose claims about how the deal is the best deal ever and everything that you are going to get. THEN you sign the deal and it turns out that you shiiit the bed. THEN you claim that bed shiiit was the goal of the deal all along. Finally, you name the deal after Trump.

Again, I actually am not that upset about the deal. Trump f'd up BIG TIME. He made a bunch of claims that were total BS. And when deal time came around, we (the US) got nothing and Iran got a lot. AT LEAST Trump apparently KNEW he F'd up and just cut and ran. And as humiliating that is, it's better than hanging around for 20 years spending TONS more money and THEN we cut and run.

It's just a damn shame that we didn't keep the deal that Trump pulled us out of. Because we'd be in the same spot with a bunch more money and Iran would have a lot less money.

It's kind of like our dealing with Canada. Apparently the US/Canada deals were terrible for the US. But who actually MADE those deals? Remeber when the NAFTA was redone back in 2018 and all those deals were set up? Didn't Trump make or at least approve those deals he trashes? Asking for a friend.

I'm just not sure how good our deal maker in chief really is at security deals for our country. To be fair, he does seem to be doing well for himself though. So MAGA should be happy. America Trump 1st!
Here’s what gets lost in this conversation:

Calling it the “Obama Deal” is a misnomer. It’s the JCPOA signed onto by 7 nations.

Anyway, the “Obama Deal” is better. And it didn’t cost taxpayers $130 billion or double-digit American lives. That’s the unfortunate cost of Trump having to divert attention from the fact he f#cks children.

No one sane who actually cares about America should give a f#ck what MAGA thinks. Those who remain are bigots, liars, and idiots. F#ck ‘em all. Hell is too good.
 

WDDT

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Here’s what gets lost in this conversation:

Calling it the “Obama Deal” is a misnomer. It’s the JCPOA signed onto by 7 nations.

Anyway, the “Obama Deal” is better. And it didn’t cost taxpayers $130 billion or double-digit American lives. That’s the unfortunate cost of Trump having to divert attention from the fact he f#cks children.

No one sane who actually cares about America should give a f#ck what MAGA thinks. Those who remain are bigots, liars, and idiots. F#ck ‘em all. Hell is too good.
Lol, hope you dont make up as much **** about Latin america as you did there pisspants.
 
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