Trump Just Surrendered to Iran--Pathetic

Hotshoe

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It's in point 6 of the MOU. I linked it and posted it. Literally NO ONE know how the 300 billion will go to Iran, but the agreement between ONLY the United States of American and Iran clearly and EXPLICITLY states that they will get 300 billion dollars to rebuild their infrastructure and economy- AND NO OTHER COUNTRY IS NAMED other than "regional partnerships." We aren't all as dumb as you. We understand what it means.

Quit being obtuse and stupid. Do some research and critical thinking you addled brain shi tty diaper old man
Here's the difference between you and me. No matter who is in power, or who is in charge, I support my country and my president. You do not. You support Socialists and Marxists in your party. I don't, nor would I ever. Burn my flag, your party does so with glee. I'm not an antisemite, your party is very antisemetic. I believe in males and females, your party does not. I believe in proper immigration and actual borders, your party does not. We are not remotely the same.

I also vehemently support religious freedom, you absolutely do not.

More than anything, I believe in the Bill of Rights and our Conversation. You and your party absolutely do not. I also believe in the sanctity of life. You definitely do not.
 

UrHuckleberry

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It's hilarious on here. Every single time a Socialist and anti-American gets called out on here to provide real, substantiated facts, they run like the gutless wonders they are, or post ridiculous memes.

Not a single person on here has provided facts regarding how America is giving Iran $300 billion in cash. Not one.
The 300 billion is in the MOU, what do you think it says? (I actually agree it doesn't say we are directly giving them cash).
 

RockyMtNole

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Here's the difference between you and me. No matter who is in power, or who is in charge, I support my country and my president.

 

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lol of course your old as s quotes things from WWII when you of age about to retire.

Just be smarter you idiot. We bombed Iran. We shouldn't have done it. It was a disaster, and we lost. The entire (WHICH HAS BEEN SOURCED AND LINKED IN THIS THREAD) MOU is weighted heavily towards Iran- they never EVER would've gotten any of it without our and Israel's stupid bombing of their country and war WE started.

You're senile and stupid old man.
So, you, once again, have absolutely nothing but a pathetic rant. No facts, just nonsense. Lmao. Show me the pallets of cash, or walk away. Done with y'alls lies.
 
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Hotshoe

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lol of course your old as s quotes things from WWII when you of age about to retire.

Just be smarter you idiot. We bombed Iran. We shouldn't have done it. It was a disaster, and we lost. The entire (WHICH HAS BEEN SOURCED AND LINKED IN THIS THREAD) MOU is weighted heavily towards Iran- they never EVER would've gotten any of it without our and Israel's stupid bombing of their country and war WE started.

You're senile and stupid old man.
You also specifically stated, Trump agreed to Iran's 10 point plan. How many times must you be the idiotic fool to finally look in the mirror? Tell me again, how did America lose the battfield again Iran? I'm waiting. Precisely, what did Iran do to America militarily to win the war. Lmao. What a fool you are.
 

Hotshoe

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K, maybe don't call out other people for sources is all.

Also, stating we lost the war because we seem to be giving them everything they want (based on the initial MOU), and taking that to mean somehow people are saying we haven't been bombing Iran is, once again, a really dumb leap in logic. Own your dumb logic circles.
No, only ignorant fools believe we're giving Iran anything, and it's all based on lies and politics. I've asked near a dozen times, please, show me where this $300 billion in cash, from Americans, stacked on pallets, is going to happen. It's a pretty simple question. Just one source. That's it. Just one. Just show it.
 

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Here's the difference between you and me. No matter who is in power, or who is in charge, I support my country and my president. You do not. You support Socialists and Marxists in your party. I don't, nor would I ever. Burn my flag, your party does so with glee. I'm not an antisemite, your party is very antisemetic. I believe in males and females, your party does not. I believe in proper immigration and actual borders, your party does not. We are not remotely the same.

I also vehemently support religious freedom, you absolutely do not.

More than anything, I believe in the Bill of Rights and our Conversation. You and your party absolutely do not. I also believe in the sanctity of life. You definitely do not.
You're wrong on every point.

- I'm a patriot and love the U.S., and even pointed out in the "world cup fans falling in love with America" YESTERDAY how great it is having these foreigners see the wonderful aspects of our country

- There aren't any socialists or marxists in the Democrat party. I agree on alot with Democratic socialists in the Democratic party, which (DO YOUR RESEARCH) aren't socialists or marxists. I also disagree alot with them.

- I've never burned a flag? I would never, and also think its heinous. No one on a Democrat ticket burns an American flag.

- My wife is Jewish, and I opine here everyday about the anti-semitism of the left and right. You have no idea what you're talking about with this one and me you dumb fuc k.

- I believe in male and females. Everyone does you stupid shi t. Learn the actual stances of the what people believe before you post dumb black and white shi t like this.

- I believe in proper immigration and proper borders too dumb fuc k. So does MOST of the Democratic party.

- I literally have a masters in theology. I guarantee I embody and believe in freedom of religion more than you. Even more, I BELIEVE in separation of church and state to the fullest extent.

- I believe nothing more than upholding the Bill of Rights and the Constitution for the United States of America and nothing less, and the current Democrat platform upholds it WAY MORE than the current Maga party. This isn't even debatable.

You're just an angry boomer who's life has passed him by, is hated by his kids and grand kids, and constantly projects- you're easily the most emotional person on the board, the most hypocritical, and the person who is ALL bark and no substance; you don't even follow the rules you project on everyone else (ie post sources to back up your claims).

Just go away- everyone is dumber reading your angry as s rants
 

tigres88

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You also specifically stated, Trump agreed to Iran's 10 point plan. How many times must you be the idiotic fool to finally look in the mirror? Tell me again, how did America lose the battfield again Iran? I'm waiting. Precisely, what did Iran do to America militarily to win the war. Lmao. What a fool you are.
Quote me bitc h. Where did I state this? Seriously, quote me. Show me the post.

I linked the MOU. Read it
 
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I’ve posted several sources. You just keep saying they aren’t good enough.

Anyway, back to your beta boy clown insults.
You post opinions, not facts. Opinions are not facts. Not a single one of you, which y'all have been doing for days, can simply show me where America is paying $300 billion in cash to Iran. Simply show it. How can it be so hard to show in the agreement, we're literally giving Iran $300 billion in cash from American taxpayers. I've now asked this simple question a dozen times. Own it.
 
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You're wrong on every point.

- I'm a patriot and love the U.S., and even pointed out in the "world cup fans falling in love with America" YESTERDAY how great it is having these foreigners see the wonderful aspects of our country

- There aren't any socialists or marxists in the Democrat party. I agree on alot with Democratic socialists in the Democratic party, which (DO YOUR RESEARCH) aren't socialists or marxists. I also disagree alot with them.

- I've never burned a flag? I would never, and also think its heinous. No one on a Democrat ticket burns an American flag.

- My wife is Jewish, and I opine here everyday about the anti-semitism of the left and right. You have no idea what you're talking about with this one and me you dumb fuc k.

- I believe in male and females. Everyone does you stupid shi t. Learn the actual stances of the what people believe before you post dumb black and white shi t like this.

- I believe in proper immigration and proper borders too dumb fuc k. So does MOST of the Democratic party.

- I literally have a masters in theology. I guarantee I embody and believe in freedom of religion more than you. Even more, I BELIEVE in separation of church and state to the fullest extent.

- I believe nothing more than upholding the Bill of Rights and the Constitution for the United States of America and nothing less, and the current Democrat platform upholds it WAY MORE than the current Maga party. This isn't even debatable.

You're just an angry boomer who's life has passed him by, is hated by his kids and grand kids, and constantly projects- you're easily the most emotional person on the board, the most hypocritical, and the person who is ALL bark and no substance; you don't even follow the rules you project on everyone else (ie post sources to back up your claims).

Just go away- everyone is dumber reading your angry as s rants
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Lmao, y'all did. Get real.
Dude, no one is a static one thing. Some people posted the 10 point shi t. I didn't. Don't lump me in with anyone else.

Only stupid fuc king people who think they're smart claim something about a person because they think they are the same as other people they don't like. Critical thinking is hard, but I didn't post shi t about the outcome of this stupid as s war until there was something concrete, like the MOU.

This is very much unlike you, who claims they are a researcher, and just posts angry shi t. Everything I post I can back up and do often with peer reviewed sources, or trusted sources, or real journalism.

That's why I laugh at you ALL THE TIME. You SAY this stuff, but I actually research stuff. I don't want to be wrong or manipulated by propaganda. And when I am and I'm wrong? I own it.

But I try to be careful. I try to critically think. You lack that skill "60 year researcher." Be better
 

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You post opinions, not facts. Opinions are not facts. Not a single one of you, which y'all have been doing for days, can simply show me where America is paying $300 billion in cash to Iran. Simply show it. How can it be so hard to show in the agreement, we're literally giving Iran $300 billion in cash from American taxpayers. I've now asked this simple question a dozen times. Own it.
I haven’t posted about $300 million.

Assume you are right about that. You like the rest of this so-called deal?
 

fatpiggy

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Again, I believe trump is alive because it's in Iran's best interest to have trump alive. Iran doesn't care how many leaders they lose, they just move to the next guy in line.
Trump is still alive and the “next guy up” in Iran was killed multiple times. Trump is much smarter.

And I’m not so sure Iran wasn’t behind some of the assassination attempts. That would render your point moot.
 
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Hotshoe

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Dude, no one is a static one thing. Some people posted the 10 point shi t. I didn't. Don't lump me in with anyone else.

Only stupid fuc king people who think they're smart claim something about a person because they think they are the same as other people they don't like. Critical thinking is hard, but I didn't post shi t about the outcome of this stupid as s war until there was something concrete, like the MOU.

This is very much unlike you, who claims they are a researcher, and just posts angry shi t. Everything I post I can back up and do often with peer reviewed sources, or trusted sources, or real journalism.

That's why I laugh at you ALL THE TIME. You SAY this stuff, but I actually research stuff. I don't want to be wrong or manipulated by propaganda. And when I am and I'm wrong? I own it.

But I try to be careful. I try to critically think. You lack that skill "60 year researcher." Be better
You mean like yesterday when you absolutely mocked JD Vance regarding the Straight when it wasn't closed. But you and your buds just knew it was? Challenge me again. You're a follower.
 
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You mean like yesterday when you absolutely mocked JD Vance regarding the Straight when it wasn't closed. But you and your buds just knew it was? Challenge me again. You're a follower.
Yes, here is your challenge again: Where did I ever ONCE mock JD Vance regarding the Strait (you spelled it wrong again you dumb fuc k). Show me. Show me the message where I mocked JD Vance. Quote me bitc h.

Your lack of critical thinking and ability to exist on this forum is dumbfounding. How could an actual human being possibly be this wrong so consistently?
 

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Dude, no one is a static one thing. Some people posted the 10 point shi t. I didn't. Don't lump me in with anyone else.

Only stupid fuc king people who think they're smart claim something about a person because they think they are the same as other people they don't like. Critical thinking is hard, but I didn't post shi t about the outcome of this stupid as s war until there was something concrete, like the MOU.

This is very much unlike you, who claims they are a researcher, and just posts angry shi t. Everything I post I can back up and do often with peer reviewed sources, or trusted sources, or real journalism.

That's why I laugh at you ALL THE TIME. You SAY this stuff, but I actually research stuff. I don't want to be wrong or manipulated by propaganda. And when I am and I'm wrong? I own it.

But I try to be careful. I try to critically think. You lack that skill "60 year researcher." Be better
Sure you do. You support a pathetic, Socialist party who hates America. Not only that, y'all believe we're a racist country, and don't want to celebrate 250. Get lost.
 
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UrHuckleberry

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No, only ignorant fools believe we're giving Iran anything, and it's all based on lies and politics. I've asked near a dozen times, please, show me where this $300 billion in cash, from Americans, stacked on pallets, is going to happen. It's a pretty simple question. Just one source. That's it. Just one. Just show it.
Cool, feel free to share where I said that was happening?
 

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Sure you do. You support a pathetic, Socialist party who hates America. Not only that, y'all believe we're a racist country, and don't want to celebrate 250. Get lost.
wrong wrong wrong again. Cite your sources. Show me how I support a "pathetic socialist party who hates America." Show me a peer reviewed study that shows that the Democrat party is a "socialist party who hates America." Link just ONE peer reviewed study that claims this. Give me a few others peer reviewed studies about "democrats who don't want to celebrate 250." Please do it. Link them. I will read them. DO IT you bitc h.

You can't even back up your angry and emotional claims you sad old sack of sh it.
 

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This thread has gotten boring. To pick things up, Iran needs to start charging “fees” for Strait passage again. Which they will almost certainly do, soon.
 
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"When pressed further about how he could ensure Tehran wouldn’t use oil profits to rebuild its military, the president said “they’re not supposed to be doing that.”"
 

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- I've never burned a flag? I would never, and also think its heinous. No one on a Democrat ticket burns an American flag.
Never a Boy Scout? ;) I participated in a few retirement ceremonies.

According to the BSA Handbook: “A national flag that is worn beyond repair may be burned in a fire. The ceremony should be conducted with dignity and respect and the flag burned completely to ashes.”

And, of course, there's the US flag code

4 USC 8: Respect for flag

(k) The flag, when it is in such condition that it is no longer a fitting emblem for display, should be destroyed in a dignified way, preferably by burning.
 

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Did we agree to FagnarShortcok?
Who is “we”?

You have me confused with someone else. My other moniker is Bang’r Longcok.

Truth be told, I don’t care what you or piggy call me. If calling me FagnarShortcok, or something else clever like Fagnar Mac Cat Daddy, tickles your little pickle, more power to you, JHP. 😌
 

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Never a Boy Scout? ;) I participated in a few retirement ceremonies.

According to the BSA Handbook: “A national flag that is worn beyond repair may be burned in a fire. The ceremony should be conducted with dignity and respect and the flag burned completely to ashes.”

And, of course, there's the US flag code

4 USC 8: Respect for flag

(k) The flag, when it is in such condition that it is no longer a fitting emblem for display, should be destroyed in a dignified way, preferably by burning.
Respect but I wasn't a boy scout and please tell me your Eagle Scout project or it doesn't count 😘
 

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I'll give you a hint, the $1.7 bil that Obama gave them upon signing the deal came from the same place that the $24bil Trump gave them just for negotiating the MOU.

So tell me about the conservative outrage over the Obama pallets of cash.


Know why they scream about the palettes of cash? The agreement was to give Iran cash and we had strict international sanctions and U.S. embargoes legally blocked Iran from accessing the global electronic banking system. United States and Iran lacked the necessary correspondent banking relationships required to move such large sums digitally without utilizing third-country institutions, which were also restricted. The $1.7 billion was paid out from the U.S. Treasury’s Judgment Fund. It settled a decades-old dispute over a pre-1979 Iranian military trust fund, which consisted of $400 million in principal and $1.3 billion in accrued interest. So the vast majority of the cash was only interest that was part of the JCPOA. The specifics are very important here. This wasn't tax payers money! But it sounds really bad.

Now, as we look ahead, Trump's weak negotiations skills allow for a number of payments to be made, far in excess to the money that was returned to them. The people involved haven't denied the $300B+, they are being very elusive about who is paying. And now that more and more of the details are coming to light, even the normal congressional bootlickers are protesting the deal as a crap deal. But since they cannot all stay on message, you know there is a lot of subterfuge involved.

Thats also why the conservatives weren't all in a tizzy when Obama gave them the $1.7B back in the day.
 
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I'll be very plain. It was their money, not ours.
Be honest. Was that your position when the Obama deal unfroze roughly $2 billion of Iran’s money? I ask because MAGA types would bring up this talking point that “Obama gave Iran a bunch of money” even within this last year.

Now, show me where Trump is giving Iran $300 billion in cash on pallets from America. I'm waiting.
This is a fair and seemingly accurate objection. According to the information currently available, the $300 billion will be coming from private investment and NOT taxpayer dollars from the United States government.


However, the direct cost to American taxpayers is well over $100 billion, with the tracker stopping the count a week ago. What that number doesn’t take into account are the indirect costs of the war which could reach $1 trillion in long-term costs based off current economic conditions and long-term interest costs from debt-funded spending on the war.


The real question you and other hardcore supporters of the president are going to have to ask is, was the war worth it? Are the United States and its interests more secure as a result of attacking Iran? Is Iran worse off or more emboldened as a result of the war? How honest are you willing to be?

Done with the lies.
If you have maintained support of Trump this long, I highly doubt it.

Btw, why are you so grumpy?
 

tarheelbybirth1

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Respect but I wasn't a boy scout and please tell me your Eagle Scout project or it doesn't count 😘
Never made Eagle. We moved and I just never got back into it officially. Me and my Eagle Scout buddies did run a few... umm... clandestine missions... into the scout camp, however. The lovely no-pic lady who became my wife even joined us on one infiltration. Real skullduggery swimming across Lake Sobotta at Raven Knob in the wee hours of the morning. It's all, of course, highly classified. :)
 
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Thefunksouljon

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Lmao at the absolute ignorance of folks like you. Iran represents 4% of the world's oil. Destroying Karg Island simply destroys Iran and devastates their people. The issue is the Strait, not Karg Island. Every time the U.S. shuts down plants for maintenance, it cuts down 2% of the world's oil. We do it twice a year. You are clueless.


Except this is not just impacting the 4% to 5% of the global supply from Iran. They are picking and choosing who passes and that represents around 25% of the world’s seaborne oil trade transiting the Strait. Thats why it's an issue for the global economy. "We" do NOT cut down 25% of the oil twice a year. You are, at best, using half truths in your argument.