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tigres88

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Really? So, if they wanted a Nazi symbol, the players should be forced to wear that as well? Lmao. You libs really have no fking clue regarding individual freedoms, or religious freedoms. Good God, walk away. You look like a fool. Oh, I get it. As long as you approve of the symbol, it's all okay. You may be able to possibly fire an employee, but you have no legal authority to demand what you're asking. They can simply walk away.
 

Hotshoe

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We lost a war to Iran and that is on Gibbs for not having the courage to enlist those toddlers.
Lmao. We lost 13 people, and Iran lost thousands, including all of their leadership. We also, fully destroyed their Navy, Air Force, and 84% of their missiles. Throw in damn near all of their communication capabilities, and all of their nuclear capability. Yet, you say we lost. You're a special kind of stupid.
 

Hotshoe

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These are the words of someone who continually claims to be comfortable in his heterosexuality and not in any way homophobic. I'm beginning to think he had some gay encounter while studying at Kirkwood CC that he kinda enjoyed and can't come to terms with it.
So, I guess you would say the same regarding Islamists, Mennonites, and the Amish? None of them are comfortable in their own skin. Amiright? Then, you have nothing but lies and projection. The real question is, wrf do you care what someone else believes? Why? I know why. You want to force your beliefs on others. You have absolutely no right in America to do that. No U.S. citizen answers to a pathetic board warrior like you.
 
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So no more special military appreciation or Veteran's day alternate uniforms?




Or breast cancer awareness?




For future reference I don't have balls. I am a woman.
You do realize this is comparing apples and oranges right?
the military jerseys are meant as a way of saying thank you to those that served our country and allow us to have the freedom to be gay or straight.
the pink jerseys are in support of breast cancer. Breast cancer is an illness that has taken the lives of many and is meant to raise awareness for this disease.
neither of these jerseys are forcing any agenda. Now I will admit, alternate jerseys are getting out of hand and have become more of a “how can we make more money” type of thing.
 

LunchBox50

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Typical, left wing response based solely on emotions and bullsh-t. Why do you believe you have any right to force Americans who do not believe the way you do, to succumb to your wishes? Gonna do that to Islamists, Christians, and Jews?
I hope the kids in your avatar have an actual male role model in their life besides you.
 

LunchBox50

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So no more special military appreciation or Veteran's day alternate uniforms?




Or breast cancer awareness?




For future reference I don't have balls. I am a woman.
ThAt Is DiFfErEnT.

I'm sure MAGA soldier Hotshoe was also very rational and normal when it came to Kaepernick kneeling before games.
 
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Lmao. We lost 13 people, and Iran lost thousands, including all of their leadership. We also, fully destroyed their Navy, Air Force, and 84% of their missiles. Throw in damn near all of their communication capabilities, and all of their nuclear capability. Yet, you say we lost. You're a special kind of stupid.
The guys simply trolling. He thinks it’s funny that he says my toddler son should sever in the military where he more than likely would die. Not sure why he or anyone thinks that would be funny but a troll is gonna troll.
 
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LunchBox50

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Lmao. We lost 13 people, and Iran lost thousands, including all of their leadership. We also, fully destroyed their Navy, Air Force, and 84% of their missiles. Throw in damn near all of their communication capabilities, and all of their nuclear capability. Yet, you say we lost. You're a special kind of stupid.
Oh no — this guy is so stupid that he thinks the Gibbs toddler serving thing is serious.
 

Hotshoe

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So they (these players who refused to don rainbow jerseys) have their First Amendment rights, no? I'm sure you were saying the same thing about Colin Kaepernick and his fellow kneelers. Cue eye rolls ... :rolleyes:
I actually did, and he also had no right to employment. Kneel all you want, that does not mean I have to employ you.
 

LunchBox50

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The guys simply trolling. He thinks it’s funny that he says my toddler son should sever in the military where he more than likely would die. Not sure why he or anyone thinks that would be funny but a troll is gonna troll.
It's funny because you don't actually have children. That's the joke.
 
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LunchBox50

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I actually did, and he also had no right to employment. Kneel all you want, that does not mean I have to employ you.
Everyone totally believes you were rational and tolerant about Kaepernick kneeling during the anthem. That definitely happened.
 

Hotshoe

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Oh so now we are moving from homophobia to Islamophobia. On brand.
Show me where Islamists support gays. Now it's Islamophobia. No, it's called a fact. Show me where Islam supports gays and gay marriage. Show it, and stop being such a lying joke.
 

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So is it safe to say we've arrived a place where some conservative Americans who do or don't support trump/maga here have embraced the idea that an employer has absolutely no right to ask their employees to anything that they might disagree with without repercussion?
 
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Hotshoe

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Want to work for me, wear my uniform. Otherwise pound sand. Can’t believe colors make grown white men so ******* sensitive. Insecure much?
A uniform is not a statement. What do you not get? You have no right in America to force any American to wear anything. I can, and others, can simply walk away. Study up pup.
 
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It's funny because you don't actually have children. That's the joke.
Oh that’s the joke? He said my toddler should serve in the military because according to you, I don’t have any children?
Again, what is the point of you being on here? It sucks your life sucks as much as it does that you spend your time here simply trolling. I know, I shouldn’t engage but it’s annoying watching you make up lies about me nonstop.
 

LafayetteBear

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Why does anyone have the right to make others support something they do not believe in? Americans have the right of refusal regarding religious freedoms and individual freedoms. As I fully support gay marriage, and always have, no one has the right to force beliefs on others who do not agree. It's total nonsense.
I actually agree with you on this. Although these ballplayers are in the entertainment business and the last thing such businesses want to do is piss off their paying customers (fans), making a ballplayer wear a rainbow jersey infringes a bit too far on his First Amendment "free exercise" rights. Maybe just have that player sit in the dugout or the clubhouse for that game. If he doesn't support the gay rights or Pride Month (which are pretty close to being the same thing), then just give him a day off. If a ballplayer had previously signed an employment contract agreeing to support the ballclub's promotional activities and "Pride Month" activities were included in the list of promotional activities, I would probably feel differently.

The San Francisco Giants have a bit of a PR mess on their hands right now, after four of their players put a verse from Genesis on their rainbow logo'ed hats to indicate their non-support of Pride Night. Aside from the fact that a meaningful segment of the Giants' fan base is gay, a much larger segment of that fan base is composed of straight folks who are supportive of gay rights and Pride Month. This is San Francisco we're talking about. Those four guys (and the ballclub) would have been better off if they had just quietly taken the night off. That seems a reasonable compromise, whereby they express neither support nor antipathy.

These "free exercise" cases can be thorny. A person's religious views obviously merit considerable First Amendment protection, but sometimes they run up against other interests that also merit protection. Such as protection against discrimination. The cake baker dude who sued so that he could deny service to a gay couple seeking to have him make a wedding cake is a good example. That guy was and is holding himself out as offering his services to the general public, so I think his "free exercise" rights do not give him free rein to discriminate against particular segments of the general public. But I would also acknowledge that it is a subject worthy of debate. There was a restauranteur in Oakland who, following a controversial police shooting incident, decided to express her First Amendment views by putting up a sign in the front window of her restaurant stating that she would henceforth be refusing to serve OPD officers. Leaving aside the fact that it seems pretty dumb to antagonize the very cops who are charged with protecting you from possible criminal activity, these cops are likewise members of the general public, and it seems discriminatory to refuse them service solely on account of their occupation. I see parallels between these two cases.
 
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Hotshoe

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Look at the little pissant tigress. Can't answer a simple question. Just another left wing coward.
 

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Oh that’s the joke? He said my toddler should serve in the military because according to you, I don’t have any children?
Again, what is the point of you being on here? It sucks your life sucks as much as it does that you spend your time here simply trolling. I know, I shouldn’t engage but it’s annoying watching you make up lies about me nonstop.
Sometimes you've spoken as if you had one child; sometimes you claimed you have multiple. My assumption is you have none and you use the fake toddlers as an excuse to be a victim. Which would be on brand for you.
 

Hotshoe

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Listen up pup. Trump was the very 1st person in America who ran and campaigned on supporting gay marriage. Neither Obama or Hillary did, just the opposite. Are you not tired of looking like the ignorant fool you are? You're simply a joke at this point. You bring no facts, and are absolutely clueless regarding American history. Get lost.
 
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So is it safe to say we've arrived a place where some conservative Americans who do or don't support trump/maga here have embraced the idea that an employer has absolutely no right to ask their employees to anything that they might disagree with without repercussion?
There’s a difference in asking an employee to do something they may or may not disagree with and forcing an employee to be part of an agenda or movement as you will.
I asked this question earlier, would you like it if a team had a gun night where they promoted guns? It’s not like they would be telling the kids to buy a gun and shoot stuff, shouldn't be an issue right?
what if they had a kkk night where you dressed in a white hood and learned about what it meant, I’m sure nothing would come of it.
maybe we can promote the swastika and have players wear that and start telling kids there’s nothing wrong with a little history lesson.
 

tigres88

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Listen up pup. Trump was the very 1st person in America who ran and campaigned on supporting gay marriage. Neither Obama or Hillary did, just the opposite. Are you not tired of looking like the ignorant fool you are? You're simply a joke at this point. You bring no facts, and are absolutely clueless regarding American history. Get lost.
 

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You do realize this is comparing apples and oranges right?
the military jerseys are meant as a way of saying thank you to those that served our country and allow us to have the freedom to be gay or straight.
the pink jerseys are in support of breast cancer. Breast cancer is an illness that has taken the lives of many and is meant to raise awareness for this disease.
neither of these jerseys are forcing any agenda. Now I will admit, alternate jerseys are getting out of hand and have become more of a “how can we make more money” type of thing.
I don't think Pride is any different than other causes where uniforms are altered. I know MAGA thinks LGBTQ is political, but there are gay republicans. Log Cabin Republicans, Caitlyn Jenner, etc. Even our very own @TarponSpringsNole was a very conservative Republican until MAGA started making transgender people their target.

As far as the alternate uniforms I posted, there are objections to them as well.
What if some players are pacifists and don't believe in military service? Some cancer survivors find the pink jerseys triggering.
 

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I hope the kids in your avatar have an actual male role model in their life besides you.
So, from your comment, you believe you have the right to force my children to believe what you believe. You sound like a fking Nazi stating that.
 

Hotshoe

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ThAt Is DiFfErEnT.

I'm sure MAGA soldier Hotshoe was also very rational and normal when it came to Kaepernick kneeling before games.
You're just another emotional idiot on this board. He was a mediocre QB at best, and I couldn't give a flying F if he kneeled. Keep projecting lies beta boy. Do you need a new doll?
 

LunchBox50

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There’s a difference in asking an employee to do something they may or may not disagree with and forcing an employee to be part of an agenda or movement as you will.
I asked this question earlier, would you like it if a team had a gun night where they promoted guns? It’s not like they would be telling the kids to buy a gun and shoot stuff, shouldn't be an issue right?
what if they had a kkk night where you dressed in a white hood and learned about what it meant, I’m sure nothing would come of it.
maybe we can promote the swastika and have players wear that and start telling kids there’s nothing wrong with a little history lesson.
Just absurd amounts of staggering stupidity. If you actually have children, I weep for them. Comparing a Pride Night to KKK Night or Nazi Night. Simply amazing. I wish your coworkers knew just how insane you are.
 

LunchBox50

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You're just another emotional idiot on this board. He was a mediocre QB at best, and I couldn't give a flying F if he kneeled. Keep projecting lies beta boy. Do you need a new doll?
Listen up pup. Imma need you to step back with your fookin beta cuckin weakness and show some fookin respect.
 

Hotshoe

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Everyone totally believes you were rational and tolerant about Kaepernick kneeling during the anthem. That definitely happened.
Why the hell would I care what you believe? Kapernick played at Nevada. The bastion of QB's in America. Get a life loser. Dude was a 58% completion rate QB at freekin Nevada. Lmao. Keep showing your ignorance. In the NFL, he was below a 60% passer in the NFL. Keep trying. He was never a great QB.
 
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Sometimes you've spoken as if you had one child; sometimes you claimed you have multiple. My assumption is you have none and you use the fake toddlers as an excuse to be a victim. Which would be on brand for you.
you do realize most people that have kids start with 1 and then add more after that.
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Hotshoe

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So is it safe to say we've arrived a place where some conservative Americans who do or don't support trump/maga here have embraced the idea that an employer has absolutely no right to ask their employees to anything that they might disagree with without repercussion?
Who said that? They can ask, they cannot demand. Any employee can simply walk away. This isn't rocket science. Smart employers walk away from ignorant politics. I give you Disney, who went from $200 to $86 per share. They are currently at $103 per share. Yeah, that worked out well.
 
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I don't think Pride is any different than other causes where uniforms are altered. I know MAGA thinks LGBTQ is political, but there are gay republicans.
Now replace pride with religion. What are your thoughts. Many on here want religion out of everything.
I know libs think religion is political but there are religious democrats. Do we want to start wearing religious jerseys and force players to wear them? I’m sure everyone will be just fine with it.