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Son_Of_Saul

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Able and actually did are not the same thing. I don't get any kickbacks if we don't spend X dollars.

I just think the number was exaggerated a fair amount

It triggers an extension so the writing is mostly on the wall.
But that's just the problem. You and a bunch of other fans "think", when the guys who are in the know agree that UK paid more than $20 million last year.

Where do you guys get your "thinking" info from? It's certainly no reputable sources. I guess I understand the logic though. Thinking that Pope crashed and burned so badly with a $22 million dollar roster last year is a hard pill to swallow.
 
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Sure, man, I don’t think my point is that you have to believe anything anyone is saying. I don’t believe anyone is truly plugged in with 100% accuracy anymore. But some of y’all complain everytime someone shares anything. Well, that’s fine…..there’s only so many times people are going to share stuff before people get tired of y’all killing the messenger. I may be done myself with it. I’ve noticed a few others have toned it down as well. There’s really not a whole lot else to talk about in June. No one has to share stuff and the people that are doing so are doing it because they love the community. Even those who don’t trust the original source could perhaps refrain from copy/pasting “why you do disssss? Jack suuuuuuucks” each time.

Does that make sense?
I'm all for people discussing the latest gossip and stuff. What I'm against are the professional insiders who are always wrong getting people's hopes up and then saying "oops my bad I take that back" and people acting like you shouldn't say they suck. I tell you what, I could make a board with possible outcomes and turn a chicken loose on it, and wherever it ***** go with that conclusion and be more accurate than Sources Say.
 

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I think paid insiders, who earn money doing this, can absolutely be held accountable for being terrible at their jobs. If you don't like people saying that, maybe skip over it.
Oh. The redundant responses that really offer no information except to express a b1tchy opinion is holding the “paid insider … accountable.” Who the he11 knew???? 🤦‍♂️
 

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Oh. The redundant responses that really offer no information except to express a b1tchy opinion is holding the “paid insider … accountable.” Who the he11 knew???? 🤦‍♂️
What novel approaches are you bringing to the board? Providing free hall monitor services? That's truly redundant.
 
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But that's just the problem. You and a bunch of other fans "think", when the guys who are in the know agree that UK paid more than $20 million last year.

Where do you guys get your "thinking" info from? It's certainly no reputable sources. I guess I understand the logic though. Thinking that Pope crashed and burned so badly with a $22 million dollar roster last year is a hard pill to swallow.
There is definitely a segment of the fan base who wants to pretend that Kentucky basketball can't compete with other schools in NIL. They hate it when Kentucky's huge NIL budget is mentioned. It's pretty obvious that Kentucky is in the elite tier of schools when it comes to basketball NIL. Everyone should have known that would be the case when Kentucky had a reputation for outspending everyone before NIL (coaching salary, facilities,...). I really don't understand why they don't want to believe it. I want to win, so I hope we are capable of outspending everyone. Who cares if everyone knows it.
 

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I’d be willing to give him another season if we have a great regular season and finish with a hard fought S16/E8 loss. I like the changes I’ve seen lately. If he continues to recruit at this level he could do some good things soon. It’s all about how he adjusts and shows progress to me. More prepared. Compete every night, 2 good halves of basketball.
My problem is no matter how well Pope does, I will always think there is a better coach out there for Kentucky and that Pope was just a convenient Mitch hire.
 

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Is it just me, or does this kind of feel like the Momcilivic recruitment? It was practically a done deal. Wait, no! Another school has ponied up! We're out! No, wait, we're still in it! A few days later we find out it's Kentucky all along.
It feels like Mom, but during Mom I felt like it seemed like Donnie Freeman. One turned out in our favor and one didn’t. I’m really wanting this kid bad, the idea of a top end potential guy that can be the #1 pick in the NBA draft would be pretty flipping cool after the last couple of years where we didn’t have anyone of that sort.
 
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But that's just the problem. You and a bunch of other fans "think", when the guys who are in the know agree that UK paid more than $20 million last year.

Where do you guys get your "thinking" info from? It's certainly no reputable sources. I guess I understand the logic though. Thinking that Pope crashed and burned so badly with a $22 million dollar roster last year is a hard pill to swallow.
No matter how many times or how many ways this is explained or clarified for you you just repeat the same thing. Pope and Pitino are not reputable sources on this?
My problem is no matter how well Pope does, I will always think there is a better coach out there for Kentucky and that Pope was just a convenient Mitch hire.
No matter how well he does? You are right I guess. It does definitely sound like a you problem.
 
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My problem is no matter how well Pope does, I will always think there is a better coach out there for Kentucky and that Pope was just a convenient Mitch hire.
So that is massively close minded of you. So no matter how well he does there is somebody better even if he does better than that somebody better that is a serious circular argument.
 

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But that's just the problem. You and a bunch of other fans "think", when the guys who are in the know agree that UK paid more than $20 million last year.

Where do you guys get your "thinking" info from? It's certainly no reputable sources. I guess I understand the logic though. Thinking that Pope crashed and burned so badly with a $22 million dollar roster last year is a hard pill to swallow.
You want to believe so bad cause you think it makes pope look bad. No one knows. Not you , not the media,nor anyone else on this board. I don't know what UK spent , but at least I don't let my hate make me believe no one else spent big money. Give it up man. If you miss cal so bad go cheer for Arkansas. Pope deserves an injury free season to show what he can do. He was always going to get a 3rd year. All your constant beotching just makes you look like a miserable person
 

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There is definitely a segment of the fan base who wants to pretend that Kentucky basketball can't compete with other schools in NIL. They hate it when Kentucky's huge NIL budget is mentioned. It's pretty obvious that Kentucky is in the elite tier of schools when it comes to basketball NIL. Everyone should have known that would be the case when Kentucky had a reputation for outspending everyone before NIL (coaching salary, facilities,...). I really don't understand why they don't want to believe it. I want to win, so I hope we are capable of outspending everyone. Who cares if everyone knows it.
Who says they don't believe UK can compete. All I see is people refuting a mad up number that you guys treat as fact.
 

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No matter how many times or how many ways this is explained or clarified for you you just repeat the same thing. Pope and Pitino are not reputable sources on this?

No matter how well he does? You are right I guess. It does definitely sounds like a you problem.
Are there better coaches than Pope? Yes. What are the odds Mitch Barnhart, of all people, hired the BEST possible coach Kentucky could have gotten? Mathematically almost zero %. There are better coaches than Pope, so when I say, "no matter how well Pope does," there are coaches who, if given the same resources as Pope, such as 22 million, Kentucky would have won the national championship last year and would be a top 3 team this year. I'm objectively correct on this.
 
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You want to believe so bad cause you think it makes pope look bad. No one knows. Not you , not the media,nor anyone else on this board. I don't know what UK spent , but at least I don't let my hate make me believe no one else spent big money. Give it up man. If you miss cal so bad go cheer for Arkansas. Pope deserves an injury free season to show what he can do. He was always going to get a 3rd year. All your constant beotching just makes you look like a miserable person
We simply have a difference in opinion, but you interpret that as misery. Your opinion is based on nothing from any credible sources, whereas mine is.

I don't think you can handle the $22 million narrative because you want to shield Mark Pope.



Now go type an extra sassy reply...
 
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exo6desmo

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Look in the mirror. Your comments are meant to hall monitor. Someone brings a post from Pilgrim and you offer your snide quip. Quit being a hypocrite and offer some actual content.
That's a fairly weak response. I have brought actual content to this board. Literally. What have you done? I'm not trying to hall monitor anything. Just the opposite. And if you think I am, you're probably not as intelligent as you think you are. Because you are wrong.
Oh, and it's funny seeing the main hall monitor liking your post. I would have bet a million dollars on it.
 

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Don't worry just yesterday Pilgrim said "all bets are off and he wouldn't be surprised if by the end of the day Kusturica was committed" and now he is saying "everyone calm down kentucky is still in the mix" Love going from commitment watch -> in the mix.
No! We aren't allowed to discuss how wrong our insiders are! Beetle Bum said so.
 
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Let me break this down so your simple mind can understand. Are there better coaches than Pope? Yes. What are the odds Mitch Barnhart, of all people, hired the BEST possible coach Kentucky could have gotten? Mathematically almost zero %. There are better coaches than Pope, so when I say, "no matter how well Pope does," there are coaches who, if given the same resources as Pope, such as 22 million, Kentucky would have won the national championship last year and would be a top 3 team this year. I'm objectively correct on this.
That is an idiotic breakdown. You said no matter how well he does. So even if he wins the National Championship you are declaring you would still believe someone else could have done better? There is nothing objective in claiming there are numerous coaches who would have won it all with our resources last season. That is a biased opinion based on you disliking Pope and Barnhart and a goofy assumption that we had way more resources than everyone else.
 
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You know what, though, some of us sometimes do know jack. My issue with Jack Pilgrim is that he gets paid to get intel. That's how he makes his money. If he's constantly wrong I think it's fair game to discuss. Absolutely.
IMO there are only a few legit insiders for UK (with our current staff) and they are mostly at national level.

Matt Norlander
Pete Thamel
Joe Adams

Everyone else seems to get bits and pieces of info but are mostly wrong. I used to pay for Trilly's discord and hes about as legit as it gets but he has zero UK sources.
 
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Who says they don't believe UK can compete. All I see is people refuting a mad up number that you guys treat as fact.
That's my point. Why even refute it? I never understood the outrage over that number being public. I hope we spent 30 million this year and it becomes public, because that just proves we can. If you can be the Dodgers, then be the Dodgers!

The fact that we can pretty much outspend the vast majority of teams is the one thing that makes me hopeful that Pope can still make this work.I actually think he's probably an above average x's and o's coach. I don't really care if we have to outspend everyone to get our players, as long as we get them and we win.
 

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We simply have a difference in opinion, but you interpret that as misery. Your opinion is based on nothing from any credible sources, whereas mine is.

I don't think you can handle the $22 million narrative because you want to shield Mark Pope.



Now go type an extra sassy reply...
Lol..what credible source? You have not one single credible source that can provide any shred of evidence they are correct. The only thing laughable here is how gullible you are due to your blind hate for the current coach. I already stated I don't care how much was spent. But you are using made up numbers to discredit UKs coach. All you do is repeat the same thing over and over hoping that will make it true.
 

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That's my point. Why even refute it? I never understood the outrage over that number being public. I hope we spent 30 million this year and it becomes public, because that just proves we can. If you can be the Dodgers, then be the Dodgers!

The fact that we can pretty much outspend the vast majority of teams is the one thing that makes me hopeful that Pope can still make this work.I actually think he's probably an above average x's and o's coach. I don't really care if we have to outspend everyone to get our players, as long as we get them and we win.
I agree with most of that. My only issue is that people use that number against and Pope....with no evidence that number is correct. But screw actual journalism and fact checking...it's all about the clicks and rage bait
 

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Lol..what credible source? You have not one single credible source that can provide any shred of evidence they are correct. The only thing laughable here is how gullible you are due to your blind hate for the current coach. I already stated I don't care how much was spent. But you are using made up numbers to discredit UKs coach. All you do is repeat the same thing over and over hoping that will make it true.
You don't think Goodman, Ben Roberts, Norlander, etc. have sources?

Answer the question.

You have nothing on your side except for your hunches that there's no way Pope could screw up a $22 million dollar roster. We weren't even good when Lowe and JQ were playing.

Meanwhile, there's literally no one on the inside that has offered a persuasive argument refuting the $22 million roster. Pope said there was misinformation about the Yaxel stuff, but for 6 months of the season last year, Pope and UK let the $22 million dollar rumor float.

Why are you so adverse to the idea that UK spent a fortune last year? Because we dare not Pope can't look bad?
 
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Saying his record is the same as Stoop's was an extreme exaggeration. At least in this case when you say you don't accept excuses it is the same as saying you refuse to recognize factual realities. There is a lot of weight on having success this season. I don't think there is any debate about that.
I didn't say it was the same. I said its looking like a Stoops record. And it is. And as far as excuses...the reality is what the record shows. Every team in America faces the same challenges. They are excuses when you use them to justify a 14 loss season. Had injuries? Ok next man up...but we never had any quality next man up and that's on Pope.

What's the reality? We had 14 losses for what reason? It all falls on the coach. We won some big games year one. We've gotten bullied off the court quite a bit also in both years.
 

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You don't think Goodman, Ben Roberts, Norlander, etc. have sources?

Answer the question.

You have nothing on your side except for your hunches that there's no way Pope could screw up a $22 million dollar roster. We weren't even good when Lowe and JQ were playing.

Meanwhile, there's literally no one on the inside that has offered a persuasive argument refuting the $22 million roster. Pope said there was misinformation about the Yaxel stuff, but for 6 months of the season last year, Pope and UK let the $22 million dollar rumor float.

Why are you so adverse to the idea that UK spent a fortune last year? Because we dare not Pope can't look bad?
There will be multiple programs with a $20M budget this year. Should every one of them that doesn't cut down the nets fire their coach?
 

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There will be multiple programs with a $20M budget this year. Should every one of them that doesn't cut down the nets fire their coach?
That's a myopic question. Let's expand the context.

If that coach fails in year three, after having a career winning percentage of 64%, never advancing past the Sweet Sixteen, historically failing to land a top 10 recruit (that changed with Hampton obviously), and never finishing top 5 in the SEC? Maybe.

I want Pope to succeed, but you and a few others make it seem like Pope has done something to change the narrative up until this point. He hasn't, not when it comes to on-the-court production.

This season will determine everything. I want Pope to win big and stay here for years to come. It really comes down to whether or not he can get it done this season.
 

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That's a myopic question. Let's expand the context.

If that coach fails in year three, after having a career winning percentage of 64%, never advancing past the Sweet Sixteen, historically failing to land a top 10 recruit (that changed with Hampton obviously), and never finishing top 5 in the SEC? Maybe.

I want Pope to succeed, but you and a few others make it seem like Pope has done something to change the narrative up until this point. He hasn't, not when it comes to on-the-court production.

This season will determine everything. I want Pope to win big and stay here for years to come. It really comes down to whether or not he can get it done this season.
Well said
 

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That's a myopic question. Let's expand the context.

If that coach fails in year three, after having a career winning percentage of 64%, never advancing past the Sweet Sixteen, historically failing to land a top 10 recruit (that changed with Hampton obviously), and never finishing top 5 in the SEC? Maybe.

I want Pope to succeed, but you and a few others make it seem like Pope has done something to change the narrative up until this point. He hasn't, not when it comes to on-the-court production.

This season will determine everything. I want Pope to win big and stay here for years to come. It really comes down to whether or not he can get it done this season.
He needs to at least prove that he is trending toward what we need. Legit content for the SEC. Get back to his year one winning elite games and don’t get blown out in the others. Don’t drop games to mid teams and lose 10 games over the year. Have a solid tourney run or maybe win the SECT for once. If we lose a tough tourney game so be it, but show that we are trending up.
 

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That is an idiotic breakdown. You said no matter how well he does. So even if he wins the National Championship you are declaring you would still believe someone else could have done better? There is nothing objective in claiming there are numerous coaches who would have won it all with our resources last season. That is a biased opinion based on you disliking Pope and Barnhart and a goofy assumption that we had way more resources than everyone else.
You dead wrong. Dead wrong.

Pope spent as much as anyone and produced a top 40 team. There are a lot of coaches who would have produced a top 5-10 team with our budget.

I am sure Pope had the worst dollar spent per result in the history of the NIL era. Find me 10 worse. Or even 5. Or even 1.

Don’t let the facts hit your a$$ on the way out.
 

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Oh zing!!! You got me there. Snappy retort!!

I think the timeline around Pope should be built around whether you want Oats or whether you want to swing again on Billy D.

If you want want Billy D, you probably don’t wait for a Pope year 4 to make changes, assuming subpar performance.

If you want Oats, you probably want a Pope year 4. Oats’ buyout is $12M and then goes to zero the year after.

Ultimately, and I’ll say this everytime, I still think the best case scenario is Pope crushing it.
I'd bet anyone a solid $50.00 that neither Oats or Billy D will ever coach here regardless of what happens with Pope. Those ships have sailed.