OT: Looks like the Luigi Mangione......
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Agh! Measured levels of LEAD in the blood. I hadn't had my leaded coffee yet....
I also am no fan of health insurance companies, but I can't get behind any vigilante justice Paul Kersey Death Wish style.
Not a legal expert by any stretch but if they are going for an insanity defense it feels like a move out of desperation.
I understand that you know some names, but I'm guessing that you don't work in that district as a lawyer on either side and probably are not a criminal litigator. The most "liberal" prosecutors are still prosecutors. You may have heard the phrase "to a hammer, everything looks like a nail." That is apt in criminal law. There are gradients, but none of them are a standard deviation away from putting people charged with crimes in jail.
Also, I imagine most people on this board (including yourself) who decry our criminal legal system and its supposed leniency have never been charged with a felony and needed to avail themselves of their constitutional rights. Your tune would change very quickly if you had.
That it's my opinion? Yes, and I'd qualify as an expert in the area. But I have an idea about how you feel about expert opinions.
If my wife and daughter were raped and murdered and the scum walked free, I would eliminate their entire bloodline.
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No one wants to work construction anymore because most forman and superintendents make it impossible to enjoy the work. Plus most construction companies have a hand helping the illegals with work.
Whether it be in house labor or sub contractors for concrete work, it’s crooked.
You can save a shitt ton of money hiring illegals for the concrete phases and most loud mouth redneck project managers know this …..so they hire them.
Then on Sunday, they all go eat at the country clubs and talk about how the orange man is kicking azz and the wife just got a brand new SUV.
Not everyone in jail are murderers or rapists. Still should be a totally structured highly disciplined environment. How many people that are going down a questionable path have gone into the military and found a structured lifestyle and helped them live a good life. Maybe a safe structured environment in jail would decrease recidivism and give a person a better chance to succeed in society instead of having their mentors be the worst people and teaching them to be better criminals.
I agree that is a problem and needs to be addressed. But part of that is that there aren't enough American Citizens with the training. If there were, then maybe the government can then step in and do something.
The other side is our politicians won't fix the H1B Visa thing where they have enough Americans for those jobs but they still allow these foreign laborers replace Americans.
When I was a project manager I was forced to handle fake SS#s. I’ve seen it all.
And the owner of the company watched as good American formans all quit because the concrete crew had the entire project by the balls…as the head concrete forman, an illegal convicted felon, the ring leader …..and making more than all in house forman and superintendents….
it’s just crooked as shitt
What do you do for the people that you've wrongfully put in jail for decades? I mean, it's not really fixable. Granted it's more fixable than the death penalty.
I suspect that for the past couple of decades, very few people with clean records were wrongfully convicted of a serious crime. I'm sure it has happened, statistics being what they are. But I suspect ones wrongfully convicted and given a death sentence are really, really rare. I understand the argument, but I don't think the possibility of being wrong is a reason to not use the death penalty any more than it is a reason to not lock people up for decades. There are going to be wrongful convictions in a country of 300M+ people.
Um, no. Some of it is correlation. Some of it is causation. It really does make crime worse when you don't arrest violent criminals and lock them up. 1% of repeat offenders account for a crazy portion of violent crime. So jurisdictions that repeatedly let violent offenders out, often mentally ill ones, really do cause more violent crime. But you are also likely to have a more liberal government and more crime if you have a larger minority population. That part is correlation.
Yup. That is one way you can tell planned parenthood has never really moved far from their roots. But it is really odd to me that of all the speech policing we had at peak wokeness, it was always ok to essentially make the argument that easy access to abortion is good because aborting black babies at four times the rate of white babies causes a reduction in crime 15-25 years down the road. Just really surreal. And I'd like to think that wasn't really part of their thinking, but I've heard so many abortion activists make a claim along the lines that all the the white evangelicals wouldn't be against abortion if they realized what the babies getting aborted would look like, so it's obviously part of the calculus for a lot of them.
Yes, stats on violent crime rates by political leadership affiliation are a classic example of correlation without causation. While there is an observable statistical correlation between certain crime rates and the political party in power, political leadership is not the driving mechanism of crime.The Core IssueCorrelation indicates that two variables move together, while causation means one actively causes the other. If one assumes that a mayor or governor's political affiliation causes high or low crime, they mistake correlation for causation.The Real Causes (Confounding Variables)Social science research demonstrates that crime is driven by structural socioeconomic and environmental conditions, not political branding. These underlying drivers include
overty and Economic Opportunity: Higher rates of violent crime are consistently tied to areas lacking economic mobility, underfunded education, and job instability.Population Density: Large, highly populated cities—which inherently have more concentrated crime—tend to lean heavily Democratic in local elections, creating a statistical clustering.Resource Allocation: Research covering three decades of city data published in the Science Advances journal reveals that a mayor's partisan affiliation has "no detectable effect on police spending, police employment, crime, or arrests".Conflicting CorrelationsHighlighting the fallacy of causation, statistical correlations frequently flip depending on how the data is viewed:At the City Level: Critics often point out that several large, Democrat-led cities have the highest raw counts of violent crime, using it to blame progressive policies.At the State Level: Studies, such as an analysis by the nonpartisan Third Way, show that per capita murder rates and violent crime have statistically been higher in conservative, Republican-voting states.In both instances, the political party in charge is an incidental correlation, not the root cause of the violence.Man, AI makes it so much easier to counter your typical BS.
You still need to understand what you're asking to avoid looking like an idiot. None of that refutes the point that when you let repeat offenders stay on the street, you do in fact cause higher crime rates. Again, some of it is correlation. Some of it is causation.Yes, stats on violent crime rates by political leadership affiliation are a classic example of correlation without causation. While there is an observable statistical correlation between certain crime rates and the political party in power, political leadership is not the driving mechanism of crime.The Core IssueCorrelation indicates that two variables move together, while causation means one actively causes the other. If one assumes that a mayor or governor's political affiliation causes high or low crime, they mistake correlation for causation.The Real Causes (Confounding Variables)Social science research demonstrates that crime is driven by structural socioeconomic and environmental conditions, not political branding. These underlying drivers include
Man, AI makes it so much easier to counter your typical BS.
Im not the one looking like an idiot.
Your point is true, but irrelevant. You assume liberal jurisdictions do this at a higher rate.
I can also add that when you convict the wrong person, or plead everyone out, the same increase in crime rates increase. Not to mention that when you ignore the societal causes of crime, crime rates increase. Your propaganda is not reality, not matter how much you push it here. God, you're worse than that bitcoin fool.
I was just thinking that we haven't heard from MoonCoinBitBoy or whatever his name is recently.
Earlier in life, I was charged with a felony and facing 20 years in prison for it. Got one of the best lawyers in Mississippi and ended up getting the case remanded. Luckily I had no priors and probably made all the difference between living at home or at Parchman, MS.
That's life-changing for you. That lawyer no doubt used criminal procedure to your advantage.
Yep, when I saw what serious charges I was facing, I went and got Steve Farese out of Ashland, MS. He pretty much saved me and did an outstanding job in my defense. Go figure an Ole Miss boy would go to bat for a State boy. But he did and he didn't care I was a MSU fan....I would highly recommend him. He is well known in the Memphis area and has won some big trials for clients who most thought didn't have a chance. In the end he was just a country boy like me who hunts and fishes like many of us in Mississippi. His amazing network of resources and relationships is what stood out to me. He knows every DA in the area on a personal level and is able to prevent a case like mine from ever going to trial.
