70-80 years ago? That coincides with the birth of Trump. Let’s bow down and worship the American messiah!
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My God you are dumb. Democracy? Rome? I assume you don’t know that the USA is not a Democracy.
Athens proved that Democracy is awful because it allows the idiot masses like you and your fellow Democrats to rule.
I’m sure the reference to Cinncinatus went way over your head. Great man.
Lucius Quinctius Cincinnatus - Wikipedia
By the time of Caesar the Roman Republic was fatally flawed, like someone in California decided what a fair election was. This is what Caesar faced when he decided to cross the Rubicon, not that he wasn't a part of this system, but because he was going to be jailed and murdered if he didn't.
In the Roman Republic, the wealthy had substantially more political influence and, in many cases, more effective voting power than ordinary citizens. The system was designed to give greater weight to wealth and status.
Citizens were divided into "centuries" (voting units), but these were not equal-sized groups. Wealthier citizens were placed into centuries that contained fewer people.
As a result:
In the Roman Republic, the wealthy had substantially more political influence and, in many cases, more effective voting power than ordinary citizens. The system was designed to give greater weight to wealth and status.
How voting worked:
Roman citizens were assigned to voting groups based largely on property and wealth. One important assembly was the Centuriate Assembly (Comitia Centuriata).Citizens were divided into "centuries" (voting units), but these were not equal-sized groups. Wealthier citizens were placed into centuries that contained fewer people.
As a result:
- A rich citizen's vote effectively carried more weight.
- The wealthiest classes controlled a disproportionately large number of centuries.
- Voting was conducted by century, not by counting individual ballots across the entire population.
The biggest advantage: voting order
The centuries voted in a fixed order:- The richest centuries voted first.
- Then the next wealthiest.
- Poorer citizens voted last.
The Senate
The Roman Senate was not elected directly by the people. Membership generally came from:- Former magistrates
- Members of aristocratic families
- Wealthy political elites
How was wealth determined?
Roman officials called censors periodically conducted a census. They recorded:- Land ownership
- Livestock
- Slaves
- Other property and assets
Better water conservation, better use of technology, better distribution, better knowledge ...not just some bogus degrees.
Again you either can read or can't retain what you should read and heed.
Desalination has turned one ENTIRE Middle East COUNTRY from a desert to where they sell water to other Countries.
Multi-billionaires are buying up land in the West. $ 200,000,000 million for ONE ranch.
1,000,000 Million acres bought in New Mexico, ONE purchase.
Gates buying land.
Chi-na buying land all over the west.
Blame on Biden.....Can we blame everything bad happening on old Joey ? Obviously Not, but Obumma/Dr Jill/ Mike O/Hunter/Auto pen....yes.
The fact is if "The Buck Stops Here", Harry Truman. Then Biden IS responsible for the reduction of the Cattle herd in the USA. Plus you ADD in inflation in Gas/Diesel pricing you have beef up. Facts are that increasing cattle herds is something nature won't let you take less than 3 YEARS Minimum.
Take an extended vacation to London or Paris !
Take a US Marine with you....A Leatherneck for safety !
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I believe this is why the Big Ten allowed teams to keep TTU games - they knew it was coming one way or the other
Did you tell your clients that your favorite golf course uses millions of gallons to keep the grass green so you can easily spot your small white ball or huge lakes to catch a poorly struck ball for resale ?
Or the next middle East "expert" on CNN say that Trump is controlled by Isreal ?
Mad Dog is a graduate of Cinn !My God you are dumb. Democracy? Rome? I assume you don’t know that the USA is not a Democracy.
Athens proved that Democracy is awful because it allows the idiot masses like you and your fellow Democrats to rule.
I’m sure the reference to Cinncinatus went way over your head. Great man.
Lucius Quinctius Cincinnatus - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
It did! Think they built one after the 390 BC disaster! Aurelian built the one that exists today around 270 AD.
Gates wants to lower the population of earth, he’s not going to increase the cattle herds. China would love to reduce our food supply. These are not good things.
I love that you guys think I’m the problem because I play golf 5 times a year. The far right is very similar to the far left.
OT, the Scots like to drink. A lot.
www.nbcnews.com
Are Scottish soccer fans drinking all of the beer in Boston?
The Tartan Army has been drinking a lot of beer for the World Cup, so much so that some Boston bars ran out.
www.nbcnews.com
This came right after Michigan announced they were dropping the volleyball match…this year, IIRC. The blowback was coming with more legal challenges and teams willing to drop other sports.
A very polished Vance handles the lions den well.
We have used all of those things. TJ is right, Arizona consumes less water than it used to. Unfortunately, that consumption is still more than the Earth provides to that part of the country. All the conservation efforts and technology have still led to very low water levels in key bodies of water.
He has a book coming into print...
If he couldn't out think those old cats, he wouldn't be VP .
Good summary. The citizens did not vote for policy makers or heads of state, only for magistrates. Plus an enormous number of people were slaves with no rights. I can see why TJ and some here are envious
and TJ believes the US was modeled on Rome.
Of course we all know TJ is correct, he is a thinking poster.
Whereas others that can't talk of or understand the science of water management, bemoan that "all the conservation efforts and tech " are now useless and we are doomed as a meat eating Country because it didn't rain today while golfing !
Look West young man to the Imperial Valley. 3+million acre feet every year and their water rights are senior to most of Colorado.
If the drought gets 50% worse, they still will use 3+million acre feet. And the water is cheap so they probably will make more money growing alfalfa if competition goes out of business elsewhere.
Thinking of the bonehead plot to attack the UFC event:
Since you all are into history. John Wilkes Booth was a nationally known actor so it was not unusual for him to be at a play. He was part of a bigger plot to kill Lincoln, VP Johnson, and Secy of State Seward that night. Wilkes was successful, Seward survived, and the guy assigned to Johnson lost his nerve. Ulysses S Grant also was supposed to be at the play that night and was going to be targeted but his plans changed and he did not attend. It was a plot to throw the Union into disarray -- but by this point Lee had surrendered and the South's capital Richmond was in Union hands, so boneheaded.
The other interesting tidbit is an armed policeman was assigned to stand guard over the entrance to the theater box Lincoln was in. He left his post, reasons vary but one theory was so he could go to a bar next door and get a drink. When Booth showed up the way to Lincoln was wide open. The policeman was investigated but never punished and stayed on the police force.
Since you all are into history. John Wilkes Booth was a nationally known actor so it was not unusual for him to be at a play. He was part of a bigger plot to kill Lincoln, VP Johnson, and Secy of State Seward that night. Wilkes was successful, Seward survived, and the guy assigned to Johnson lost his nerve. Ulysses S Grant also was supposed to be at the play that night and was going to be targeted but his plans changed and he did not attend. It was a plot to throw the Union into disarray -- but by this point Lee had surrendered and the South's capital Richmond was in Union hands, so boneheaded.
The other interesting tidbit is an armed policeman was assigned to stand guard over the entrance to the theater box Lincoln was in. He left his post, reasons vary but one theory was so he could go to a bar next door and get a drink. When Booth showed up the way to Lincoln was wide open. The policeman was investigated but never punished and stayed on the police force.
The Imperial Valley has a population of less than 200k ("it's the f'n desert"), and is one of the most productive agricultural regions in the United States. We need that part of the country to be productive to feed our country.
A growing Phoenix population (and the water needed to support it) will result in less water for more productive areas. I realize it's stupid, and will only result in higher prices at the grocery store if we squeeze out ranchers and farmers.
I think I prefer people to subsidized water rates for marginal farmers and ranchers in Colorado living off the taxpayer's dime. Why not start charging everyone competitive rates for the water? People, cows, pigs, alfalfa. It is the only fair way. If they charged competitive prices how much alfalfa would the Imperial Valley export to China?
Great plan if you want to end up eating lab made fake meat. Farming/ranching is not an easy way of life, so we have to incentivize people to do it. If we are going to incentivize any industry, it should probably be the one putting food on our table.
Without the help of other states, Arizona is not a livable place for 8-10 million people. The land does not provide the necessary water for that many people. I guess you guys just want farmers to be removed from the equation so that it does provide enough water for that area. I believe that is a very bad idea.
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