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tjfleck6 said:
Humorless liberal! You do know America is modeled after Republican Rome? I’m sure you don’t. From the political structure to architecture America aspired to be Rome and became Rome. And yes, it happened 70-80 years ago.

Enjoy it.
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70-80 years ago? That coincides with the birth of Trump. Let’s bow down and worship the American messiah!

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tjfleck6

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stoneaxe27 said:
If you actually did know, you would realize that Rome was never a democracy, it was a Kingdom ruled by Kings, then an Oligarchy ruled by wealthy families, then an Empire ruled by emperors.
Thank God Trump does not persecute his political opponents. You are oblivious to reality.
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My God you are dumb. Democracy? Rome? I assume you don’t know that the USA is not a Democracy.

Athens proved that Democracy is awful because it allows the idiot masses like you and your fellow Democrats to rule.

I’m sure the reference to Cinncinatus went way over your head. Great man.

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By the time of Caesar the Roman Republic was fatally flawed, like someone in California decided what a fair election was. This is what Caesar faced when he decided to cross the Rubicon, not that he wasn't a part of this system, but because he was going to be jailed and murdered if he didn't.


In the Roman Republic, the wealthy had substantially more political influence and, in many cases, more effective voting power than ordinary citizens. The system was designed to give greater weight to wealth and status.

How voting worked:​

Roman citizens were assigned to voting groups based largely on property and wealth. One important assembly was the Centuriate Assembly (Comitia Centuriata).

Citizens were divided into "centuries" (voting units), but these were not equal-sized groups. Wealthier citizens were placed into centuries that contained fewer people.

As a result:
  • A rich citizen's vote effectively carried more weight.
  • The wealthiest classes controlled a disproportionately large number of centuries.
  • Voting was conducted by century, not by counting individual ballots across the entire population.

The biggest advantage: voting order​

The centuries voted in a fixed order:
  1. The richest centuries voted first.
  2. Then the next wealthiest.
  3. Poorer citizens voted last.
Because voting stopped once a majority of centuries had been reached, the wealthiest groups could often decide the outcome before many poorer citizens even voted.

The Senate​

The Roman Senate was not elected directly by the people. Membership generally came from:
  • Former magistrates
  • Members of aristocratic families
  • Wealthy political elites
So ordinary citizens had little direct influence over Senate membership.

How was wealth determined?​

Roman officials called censors periodically conducted a census. They recorded:
  • Land ownership
  • Livestock
  • Slaves
  • Other property and assets
Based on the value of a citizen's property, he was assigned to a social and voting class. The wealthiest class included the equites (knights) and the senatorial elite, while poorer citizens were placed in lower classes.
 
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It looks like TTU finally realized that between defending in court and losing games in other sports wasn't worth it.

 
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BigWill

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rillaman said:
Maybe not. But it sure seems like most people aren’t even willing to have a conversation about this topic. This entire conversation started because someone on here blamed beef prices on Biden. The truth is much more complicated, but it’s easy to just blame Biden and call people a squish when they question the status quo.

The Colorado River provides water for an area that raises just as many cattle as the state of Texas. With a shrinking national cattle herd, it’s about time people start talking about it.
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Blame squish...

Woe is me.....

I can't even vote for no one and not get blamed...
 
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BigWill

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rillaman said:
This is absolutely not my solution. I wouldn’t tell anyone to invest in farming in the SW. I believe you and others were talking about how you should buy farmland on the Colorado River because it’s such a steal. I think the exact opposite. I think we need to relocate people and farming communities to places that actually have water. You guys seem to think more people and more farms, and desalinated water from the ocean a few hundred miles away are the answer.
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Better water conservation, better use of technology, better distribution, better knowledge ...not just some bogus degrees.
 
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BigWill

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rillaman said:
This is absolutely not my solution. I wouldn’t tell anyone to invest in farming in the SW. I believe you and others were talking about how you should buy farmland on the Colorado River because it’s such a steal. I think the exact opposite. I think we need to relocate people and farming communities to places that actually have water. You guys seem to think more people and more farms, and desalinated water from the ocean a few hundred miles away are the answer.
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Again you either can read or can't retain what you should read and heed.

Desalination has turned one ENTIRE Middle East COUNTRY from a desert to where they sell water to other Countries.

Multi-billionaires are buying up land in the West. $ 200,000,000 million for ONE ranch.
1,000,000 Million acres bought in New Mexico, ONE purchase.

Gates buying land.

Chi-na buying land all over the west.
 
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BigWill

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rillaman said:
Maybe not. But it sure seems like most people aren’t even willing to have a conversation about this topic. This entire conversation started because someone on here blamed beef prices on Biden. The truth is much more complicated, but it’s easy to just blame Biden and call people a squish when they question the status quo.

The Colorado River provides water for an area that raises just as many cattle as the state of Texas. With a shrinking national cattle herd, it’s about time people start talking about it.
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Blame on Biden.....Can we blame everything bad happening on old Joey ? Obviously Not, but Obumma/Dr Jill/ Mike O/Hunter/Auto pen....yes.

The fact is if "The Buck Stops Here", Harry Truman. Then Biden IS responsible for the reduction of the Cattle herd in the USA. Plus you ADD in inflation in Gas/Diesel pricing you have beef up. Facts are that increasing cattle herds is something nature won't let you take less than 3 YEARS Minimum.
 
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BigWill

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rillaman said:
I don’t care about posts from Table Salt and arctic weather, you got me there.

I had a meeting with a client yesterday just outside Greeley, CO. 4th generation farmers. They are reducing their cattle herd 50% this year. They didn’t talk about regulation killing them. They talked about how they are very worried about having their water cutoff in July or August. I bet they would be amazed to hear Republicans think they are greedy and taking too much water.

I care about those stories much more than the death jab and yak farming in Alaska. You and I are very different, and I’m OK with that.
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Did you tell your clients that your favorite golf course uses millions of gallons to keep the grass green so you can easily spot your small white ball or huge lakes to catch a poorly struck ball for resale ?
 
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BigWill

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Uncoach said:
Rome was the center of civilization and a very wealthy empire. That isn’t a cult, dippy. That’s what all Americans should want. The best. The very best. Bigly. If you were a baseball umpire you would be worse than Angel Hernandez calling balls and strikes.
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Did Rome have a wall ?
 
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BigWill

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tjfleck6 said:
My God you are dumb. Democracy? Rome? I assume you don’t know that the USA is not a Democracy.

Athens proved that Democracy is awful because it allows the idiot masses like you and your fellow Democrats to rule.

I’m sure the reference to Cinncinatus went way over your head. Great man.

en.wikipedia.org

Lucius Quinctius Cincinnatus - Wikipedia

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Mad Dog is a graduate of Cinn !
 
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rillaman

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BigWill said:
Again you either can read or can't retain what you should read and heed.

Desalination has turned one ENTIRE Middle East COUNTRY from a desert to where they sell water to other Countries.

Multi-billionaires are buying up land in the West. $ 200,000,000 million for ONE ranch.
1,000,000 Million acres bought in New Mexico, ONE purchase.

Gates buying land.

Chi-na buying land all over the west.
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Gates wants to lower the population of earth, he’s not going to increase the cattle herds. China would love to reduce our food supply. These are not good things.
 
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rillaman

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BigWill said:
Did you tell your clients that your favorite golf course uses millions of gallons to keep the grass green so you can easily spot your small white ball or huge lakes to catch a poorly struck ball for resale ?
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I love that you guys think I’m the problem because I play golf 5 times a year. The far right is very similar to the far left.
 
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