I guess we never considered we could always just give them everything they want and more so that we could get the strait back to its pre-war state. That’s on us I guess.
Trump Just Surrendered to Iran--Pathetic
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And yet the MAGA Idiot Brigade will still believe this is fake news. It doesn’t matter. You can quote Trump directly and they do one of two things: Plug their ears and sing “lalalalala” or pull the TDS card.
That’s why I have no respect for the MIB. None. They are all liars and reality deniers.
Good morning, JHP.
Yes, we all know Trump is delusional and an idiot. As has been pointed out numerous times, the 1.7 billion Trump is referring to was Iran’s money to begin with. Also, the JCPOA that Trump’s penis envy led him to rip up was signed by 7 countries in total, which included Trump’s dom tops China and Russia.
Let’s see how the Trump deal plays out first before you get too glib.
Yesterday was TACO Tuesday. Today is Waffle Wednesday.All we heard during the war was that Iran didn't control the Strait, we did, and that the Strait was open. Well now Trump is saying we had to sign the MOU because the Strait was closed. Which is it?
Shipwreck (@shipwreck75.bsky.social)
More Trump on Iran deal: “The alternative to this deal was a global recession. There are stupid people who want to see a global recession. They are just stupid people. The Strait of Hormuz would never have been opened."bsky.app
Whatever Team Trump is dishing out to the public today will undoubtedly be “something terrific.”
I can’t wait.
You forgot to mention Trump flipped burgers at McDonald’s to further demonstrate he is truly a man of the people.
I think you need to do more research on what we achieved. I know you're first instinct will be to run to Grok, but I recommend doing some actual research that goes beyond X, Parlor, Truth Social, or whatever far right social media you gorge yourself in.
The Islamic Republic is still in charge. Now they have an extra $300 billion at their disposal. There is no evidence that we destroyed their nuclear programs. In fact, recent reports state Iran still retains technical capabilities to produce a nuclear weapon relatively quickly. Now they have an extra $300 billion to help that process out. Iran also still has the capabilities to disrupt the Strait and impose major costs on global shipping and energy. Now that they have an extra $300 billion, who knows what else they can do to disrupt shipping lanes.
Oh, the f#cking irony.
What has been accomplished in your view? Seems the naysayers were proven correct that “Mission Accomplished” would require more than depleting our supply of missiles.
No one is sh*tting themselves other than Donald Trump while napping during a press conference or intelligence briefing.
Sure, Whiskey Does Donald Trump. Sure.
You seem happy.
Indeed.
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Yep.He gets it confused when liberals said the only way for the US to open Hormuz would be to put boots on the ground.
Or when we said the only way to do an actual regime change would be to put boots on the ground.
Those statements are obvious calls and cries to put boots on the ground.
Do not get sucked in to WDDTs gaslighting and lies. Trump pulled the football and now he’s trying to save face.
Taking down all the sanctions is huge for them.
Well, the MOU would give Iran about $23-24 billion of its own money just for negotiating.
So if held to the same standards as the JCPOA, it is an utterly resounding failure.
He is one of us.
Oh wait, I never flipped burgers like a poor, does that make me better than Trump?
Absolutely. I’m guilty of engaging with him and need to stop.
Remember last year at this time when the White House’s official statement was that Iran’s nuclear program was “totally obliterated” and any suggestion otherwise was fake news?
Pepperidge Farm remembers.
I agree, among other things.
But I am willing to take a wait-and-see approach until the official agreement has been released.
If it’s a quarter as bad as what’s being floated out there, this will be me while the MIB pretzel twist their way into spiking the football in their own end zone:
I don't know that this makes him particularly "lucky."
His base is now pretty much just the 30% Dead Enders Club and we already knew nothing - literally nothing - Trump could do would lose their support.
But the 70%-plus of "normie" Americans aren't that stupid. They all know this was a complete and pathetic surrender that humiliated the U.S. and undermined our global power and prestige. And the GOP sycophants that were too chickens/hit to do anything about it will pay electorally.
Wow skipping ahead four pages to comment on what an overly emotional crybaby this Hotshoe character is.
Come on Torbee, don’t sell WDDT short like that. Anyone who says Hitler was a great leader and then doubles down on that opinion because he learned it in a level 300,000 sociology class is a well above average MAGA cult member.
well, you might not accept this, but there is always someone bigger, stronger, faster..and you could add richer, poorer, taller, shorter...
I agree the Dune subtext has been applicable to the Middle east and it was always Herberts inspiration.
I watched Lawrence of Arabia for the first time this week. It blew my mind all the context around that time and place and where we are now.
You sure about that? Honestly, you really believe we have trump as 47 and Americans aren't "that stupid"? I absolutely disagree.
We de-nuked them? Are you talking about when we de-nuked them last year, or when we went back in this year to de-nuke them again?
The leaked MOU says nothing about what happens to their enriched uranium. lt says they agree not to develop nuclear weapons in exchange for money. Sounds familiar.
The leaked text of the agreement, if accurate, indicates that Iran has emerged from the conflict in a stronger strategic position, however.
I, as well as others, said it weeks ago. From May 17:
This wasn't in doubt as soon as Iran demonstrated they could close the strait and keep it closed. At that point, they were holding a straight flush - they could dictate many of the terms of any settlement.
Even if there may have been doubt Iran could manage a full closure, NO previous admin deemed it worth the risk to the global economy and American standing in the world to test it. It took a moronic, pathological, lying narcissist backed by a spineless party to pull the biggest US foreign policy blunder since Vietnam (and that's a mild assessment).
I think Trump’s core base floor is adound 30% of voters - these are the dead enders.
Around 45% of voters are hardcore Never Trumpers.
That leaves around 25% - mostly independents and “country club” Republicans - that Trump was able to convince to vote for him as “at least better than the crazy commie black lady”.
That 25% - it is clear by polling and general sentiment - has MAJOR buyer’s regret at this point.
Which, IMHO, proves my point. Those people lived through his first term and thought "you know, we should give him another chance here". Stupid. A truly unforgivable level of stupidity.
I mean, I don't disagree. Let's say they are SLOW learners - it appears though that maybe they CAN still learn, albeit long after everyone else is like "uh, no s.hit he sucks."
We do need to get these people back to voting for non-lunatics though.
Theres a reason why Trump 2 is the most unpopular president of all time or approaching it
Lmao!
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The Bulwark (@thebulwark.com)
Q: "One of the goals of Epic Fury you said going into it was to destroy Iran's ballistic missiles…Why is it acceptable to you now that they keep some of that capability?" Trump: "They have less than other nations now…What are you going to do?"
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Lmao!
The Bulwark (@thebulwark.com)
Q: "One of the goals of Epic Fury you said going into it was to destroy Iran's ballistic missiles…Why is it acceptable to you now that they keep some of that capability?" Trump: "They have less than other nations now…What are you going to do?"
Who cares what a godless, commie, trans-loving libtard like Bill Cassidy thinks?
Yeah, similar to about every Trump response after a FAFO moment.Lmao!
The Bulwark (@thebulwark.com)
Q: "One of the goals of Epic Fury you said going into it was to destroy Iran's ballistic missiles…Why is it acceptable to you now that they keep some of that capability?" Trump: "They have less than other nations now…What are you going to do?"
Q. “Mr. Trump, why weren’t you able to get Obamacare repealed and replaced?
DT. “Who knew healthcare could be this complicated?”
When did I, or any Democrat here, say that giving Iran back THEIR money is bad? I can tell you that it is a WHOLE LOT better than giving them OUR money. The point that I and other Democrats here have been making is that it was hypocritical for you to bray about Obama giving Iran "pallets of cash" back when the JCPOA was created, while you are now utterly silent upon learning that Trump apparently plans to give Iran roughly 15 times as much money.
Trump wants to pay that money in some form other than cash, so he can maintain that "no cash changed hands."
PUHLEEZE.
Have you ever received or given someone a check or money order? Ever received or sent a wire transfer? That's not giving and receiving money?