Ok, thanks for showing your character flaw.
...thanks for your input, Ross.
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Oh no!!! I'm one of the good character people. You're the one who has no problem with SCOTUS telling ICE they can legally treat EVERY brown person as having bad character until that person proves otherwise. But you just keep on patting yourself on the back.
When did I ever say that? You asked a question, I answered and you didn’t like my answer so you posted the Ross meme and now this blaming me for not having an issue with scotus telling ice to do what they do.
You seem a bit upset by it, you mad not everyone agrees with you?
Ummm… I was making fun of this claim…
Between that and your lack of knowledge - or apparently, curiosity - about the racial profiling SCOTUS ruling, it seems a lot of things need to be explained to you.
So you don’t think any of the people making the scotus ruling have character behavior issues? That seems very interesting considering how so many on here think Trump and everyone under him have issues.
I’m aware of human nature.
I can’t speak to her mindset or intentions (just to her hotness and passion), but I think you and I will agree that common sense has become nearly obsolete these days while tribalism is probably as bad as it’s ever been. To me, and I am indeed spitballing here, that’s the backdrop to her fiery speech.
Even so, I acknowledge I don’t know for certain what compelled her to “yell” (ipso facto f#cking up the rest of @Moral ’s day
) or to make the video in the first place. Again, I personally received it as a (beautiful) woman being fed up with stupid sh*t she was hearing people in general say about race. Of course, maybe she just ran out of Midol and needed a release. I don’t know.What I do know is the intended audience seems to be what we might refer to as the dregs of society and not necessarily upstanding, gentlemanly chaps like you and I who continue to remain regal and above reproach. Why do I think that? Well, at the end of her inspiring diatribe, she tacitly addresses white people that their whiteness entitles them to nothing and that if they think they are better than others based solely off the merits of their lack of melanin then they are quintessentially “TRASH!”
So, yeah, I think she was mostly addressing folks in the MIB (while also hitting a nerve or two of people on the left). After all, as we have seen play out over the last 10 + years, there are plenty of middle-aged, conservative, Christian, DL Grindr-using “straight,” white males who are tired of never catching a break in America and want to dwell in victimhood (despite the fact none of them will ever experience uncomfortable encounters with ICE agents or will likely ever be pulled over and harassed for driving while pigmentally challenged).
So, anyway, that’s my <$.02 worth of a final response. I hope you enjoyed it. If you still refuse to clap along or high five my awesomeness, you are at risk of seeing me harness my inner Whiskey Does Donald Trump (WDDT) equanimity and react accordingly. Consider yourself warned.
I’m aware of human nature.
I can’t speak to her mindset or intentions (just to her hotness and passion), but I think you and I will agree that common sense has become nearly obsolete these days while tribalism is probably as bad as it’s ever been. To me, and I am indeed spitballing here, that’s the backdrop to her fiery speech.
Even so, I acknowledge I don’t know for certain what compelled her to “yell” (ipso facto f#cking up the rest of @Moral ’s day
What I do know is the intended audience seems to be what we might refer to as the dregs of society and not necessarily upstanding, gentlemanly chaps like you and I who continue to remain regal and above reproach. Why do I think that? Well, at the end of her inspiring diatribe, she tacitly addresses white people that their whiteness entitles them to nothing and that if they think they are better than others based solely off the merits of their lack of melanin then they are quintessentially “TRASH!”
So, yeah, I think she was mostly addressing folks in the MIB (while also hitting a nerve or two of people on the left). After all, as we have seen play out over the last 10 + years, there are plenty of middle-aged, conservative, Christian, DL Grindr-using “straight,” white males who are tired of never catching a break in America and want to dwell in victimhood (despite the fact none of them will ever experience uncomfortable encounters with ICE agents or will likely ever be pulled over and harassed for driving while pigmentally challenged).
So, anyway, that’s my <$.02 worth of a final response. I hope you enjoyed it. If you still refuse to clap along or high five my awesomeness, you are at risk of seeing me harness my inner Whiskey Does Donald Trump (WDDT) equanimity and react accordingly. Consider yourself warned.
Dammit I almost forgot about her yelling.
Trauma can do that to the brain.
And then 5 weeks from now the memory will blindside you out of nowhere.
I recommend seeking out a well-credentialed trauma specialist now.
I see my therapist at the VA on Thursday. Guess I know what we will be talking about.
It's troubling that you're so stuck on this point. I don't think it's difficult to both agree that it's wrong to judge people solely on the color of their skin(the point of the video) and also believe that some of the sh!tty people described effort to use the levers of power in ways that run counter to that message.
Nothing she said should probably lead anyone
to believe racism doesn't exist, just that it's wrong and of low character.
Fwiw, to this point it's you that keeps bringing up party politics.
Are you suggesting that those who brought up the SCOTUS were removed from party politics?
I'm going to explain this as slowly as possible. The point of the OP was judging someone based on the color of their skin. You want to claim the justices who voted for racial profiling have bad character? I don't disagree...but that's based on WHAT THEY'VE DONE, not on what they look like.
THEY want brown people judged based on the color of their skin. Do you see the difference? Do you understand that THIS is precisely what the young lady was railing against? Her rant bordered on the banal, you championed it, yet you missed her point completely.
Take a knee.
It’s an fascinating conundrum. I find myself philosophically aligned with liberals more often than not. But I constantly fail the progressive purity test due to my fiscal conservatism, willingness to compromise to get sh*t done, etc.
So while 75% of the time our opinions align (mostly out of disdain for what happened to the GOP), I often run afoul of the groupthink that seems endemic amongst the progressive wing of the dems. I think some of the responses above reflect that.
The message board life of an independent can be frustrating for sure.
Not entirely since the SCOTUS has done a good job excessively politicizing themselves but that doesn't really have anything to do with my point.
But, I don’t have a problem with anyone discussing politics and political situations, and don't feel that just because politics is invoked means a conversation is distasteful/invalid/annoying.
It's pretty clear by now that you're more interested in stifling conversation about this video than you are embracing where those ideas go, their impact and what our institutions are doing to help or hurt their advancement.
Yep. I, too, get it from “both sides.” I understand completely.
I have never wavered from the fact that I consider myself a conservative who absolutely despises Trump and the damage he has done and is doing. Thus, my voting track record the past 10 years reflect that I am an American who puts basic civility and common decency first and being a conservative second.
To this day I still don’t care who does or doesn’t like that.
That was honestly not my intention but I appreciate the feedback.
“Ragnor” reverted back to sh*t posting after too much of your mom and blow all in one night.
What I think is Dems should embrace allies who might be late to the party, but are allies none the less.
I think Dems do an atrocious job of this. The woman in the video might be a bit tone deaf considering all the history, but she is an ally.
And yes, there is blue team groupthink. Not anywhere close to the red team BS, but it is there and if you don’t see it, well … maybe you suffer from it.
Here’s a hint, y’all need independents to win in November. Build bridges, not toll booths.
She's not tone deaf at all. She's sharing an opinion that has been at the heart of what this nation has efforted towards since before it even existed. But, history has shown over and over just having that opinion doesn't make it come true and that people that disagree will actively work within government to stop it from becoming reality.
My question to you was is this groupthink(of course it exists) problem you're guarding against is happening now, and if so in what way?
My follow up would be, what good does it do to focus on the way nobodies on the internet are speaking when criticizing powerful leaders and the institutions that govern our lives? I see this happen very frequently and believe that it serves only those in power.
IMO, it's kissing cousins with the bs opinion that the DNC is responsible for the GOP embracing christonationalism because of a handful of weirdos and mean comments on the internet.
We either all have agency or none of us do.
In short, if independents are so protective of their independent status that they get annoyed by reading how very real world events are effecting a wonderful philosophy and have to lash out, im not so sure they are much of an ally. This isn't a college football recruiting visit where anyone should feel the need to butter them up with platitudes or self-censorship.
I agree with much of what you wrote here. Certainly the piece that some people will work against equality. That is VERY much the case.
Not sure I followed your point about nobodies on the internet. I think all voices matter and if voices on this forum convince a few people to change their minds, and they convince a few people, who convince a few more people and so on …well that is how societal change happens at a grass roots level. That is how messages of hope, equality and the like can shine. But I am a foolish optimist. Then again, I’m not sure I followed your point so would appreciate a clarification.
I definitely do NOT agree that the Dems are to blame for the GOP’s rightward swing. That is solely on the GOP for embracing MAGA. At the same time I think the Dems could do a lot more to reach out to open minded independents.
Finally my point on independents could have been better worded. Mainly I think Dems should focus on how they attract more people to their cause. Despite what I wrote it really is less about being annoyed and more about how Dems build bridges via policies to improve our country and outreach methods to reach independents.
The only thing remotely memorable about the video was she was blonde, pretty, and yelling. What she had to say was completely unoriginal. I can't imagine why anyone would find it inspiring. You want to be inspired by that very same idea? Listen to Dr. King's "I Have A Dream" speech.
And so even though we face the difficulties of today and tomorrow, I still have a dream. It is a dream deeply rooted in the American dream.
I have a dream that one day this nation will rise up and live out the true meaning of its creed: "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal."
I have a dream that one day on the red hills of Georgia, the sons of former slaves and the sons of former slave owners will be able to sit down together at the table of brotherhood.
I have a dream that one day even the state of Mississippi, a state sweltering with the heat of injustice, sweltering with the heat of oppression, will be transformed into an oasis of freedom and justice.
I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.
I have a dream today!
Delivered more than 60 years ago and more eloquently than the young lady could ever hope to manage. Character should matter more than color. Is Mississippi "an oasis of freedom and justice"? No... they're carving up their congressional districts to eliminate their single black representative in Congress and eliminate as many majority black districts as they can in their state legislature. In a state that's over a third black. And now SCOTUS has given a thumbs-up to racial profiling.
That's human nature - same as it ever was. And the only way to address it is through politics and the law.
Im pretty sure Democrats are trying to do exactly that, it is after all just a funding vehicle to get people elected. The only way to do that is to attract more voters.
My point was, what the hell do you think I or any number of the more annoying liberals here can do other than state their beliefs? We don't dictate policy any more than you do.
It's a big country and nobody is going to agree on everything and if getting some pushback from bedfellows here and there is enough to scare a person underground and allow authoritarianism to further take root, the scared will shoulder just as much blame as anyone else in the history books.
Never go full Northern.
Someone sure seems to be struggling at understanding what i am saying and is getting awfully worked up about it.
why are you so made bro? Internets serious business.
I’m not the one to take a knee for the national anthem, I’ll continue standing because I’m proud to be an American.
The standard fallback when you have nothing to say, and it’s as boring as ever…
Either address the post or take the L. You’re just embarrassing yourself with this BS.
I did address the post. You don’t like my post and decided to get worked up about it. I’ve moved on, you’re still crying about it. Then you proceed to post a meme saying why you made bro when that’s what I just previously mentioned to you.The standard fallback when you have nothing to say, and it’s as boring as ever…
Either address the post or take the L. You’re just embarrassing yourself with this BS.
keep failing bud.