And sadly, Obama gave Iran cash so that they could enrich their uranium and eventually have a nuclear weapon.
But don't worry, Trump is fixing Obama's mess.
Trump Just Surrendered to Iran--Pathetic
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And sadly, Obama gave Iran cash so that they could enrich their uranium and eventually have a nuclear weapon.
But don't worry, Trump is fixing Obama's mess.
By giving them more money and less oversight if reports are to be believed.
Oh, and no sanctions. And the ability to freely sell oil.
And control of Hormuz.
I don't watch CNN you broken record of a cultist.
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All that comes out of your keyboard is CNN.
I also do not watch MSNBC.
Obama released a total of $1.7 billion in frozen Iranian funds to the Iranians. You refer to that as a "ton of cash."
Trump is releasing either $24 or $25 billion in frozen Iranian funds to the Iranians. What term would you use to describe THAT?
Our own intelligence agencies said that Iran was not a nuclear threat to the US. Didn't Fox or Newsmax or OAN or Breitbart tell you that?
FAKE NEWS!! FAKE NEWS!! FAKE NEWS!!
Although the numbers are often closely protected, at least 22 nations have stockpiles of highly enriched uranium, according to Gemini.
You honestly don’t think securing the strait was an assigned objective? It is literally the only bargaining chip that Iran has. The conundrum for Trump (not the military) was that to take and hold the strait would require not just a substantial ground force but a prolonged (5-10 year) presence.
Your pontificating about COA a&w is meaningless. This wasn’t a military operation, it was a political one that was doomed from the start. There was a reason no other presidents took a bite of that apple, but someone went legacy hunting.
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@Sullivan since I only do CNN spin, I wanted to follow up on the below questions so you can help me figure out what is really going on.
"Meh, who cares about that. Trump is making this wonderful deal and it won't matter. How much money is too much if it keeps Iran from getting nukes!?! Why do you hate America so much but love the LGBTQ+ community so much?". - Red hat wearing cultist
Looks like Trump and Keggy are going to be busy for the next 2.5 years.
Who is this source? Name them. Yesterday, y'all just new every detail of the agreement, even though nothing has been released. Y'all, 100% knew, Trump had already agreed to Iran's 10 point plan. Every lib on here was wrong. Not one of you have an ounce of honesty.
Next, yesterday, y'all specifically stated, we were paying $300 billion to Iran. Lmao at how many of you can't get past your Trump hate and think straight. That money would come from Arab states, not America. But, y'all just knew. Blue sky is not your friend.
Show a legitimate source where America is giving $300 billion to Iran. We are not. You libs are absolutely clueless, and y'all hate MTG. LMAO.
Don't present them with actual facts, they do not care. They are enraged. The meltdown is a wonderful thing to see. They are like petulant children blowing in the wind with unnamed sources.
Enraged? Melting down?
We’re laughing at you clowns. We called this a clisterf*ck from day one. It might be even worse than we thought.
Lmao, are you absolutely clueless regarding the military. Biden was months late getting military help available for the Spring Offensive in Ukraine. Trump had a full military convey at the doorstep of Iran in 14 days. Sit down pup.
and I'm trying to respond to your point....and obviously not succeeding. How do you know that controlling the strait was not part of the overall plan? Why would they have ordered ground troops into the area? I'm trying to tell you that 1. there was a plan to take control of the strait ..at least according to multiple retired generals and admirals who served in either the joint staff or service staff. 2. the strait was most likely an objective, but not any of those in the first segment of the war..for the reasons I gave.
I don't know what else to say. If you want to believe that taking control of the strait first should have been part of the plan. I can't say anything that would change your mind. I have never seen or heard, short of some special ops things, where a major ground force would attempt a land breach without removing as much of the defenses as possible first. That's about the best I can do. Maybe one of the other former military guys can do a better job of explaining.
then you are mistaken.. Trump specifically said he left the army alone.....
HE IS WORSE THAN THE OTHER CULTISTS BECAUSE HE IS ACKSHUALLY
DUMB AND I MEAN LOW IQ.
You really cannot be this ignorant. The Gulf States are sitting on $6 trillion in capital. Get a clue. You act like a simple check is going to be cut upfront. It isn't, and you actually believe we're paying it. Lmao.
I guess I am saying I am not sure what objective we have been trying to achieve that will be achieved by any scenario that leaves Iran their largest piece of leverage in any negotiation.
What objectives does it appear we have successfully completed? At a macro level, not a "we wanted to blow up x, y, and z and we did".
But when Biden did it, you guys fought the criticism with "it's their money"....have your concepts changed??? And from what I understand, and I don't know any more than you, just repeating speculation, Iran only gets access to those funds IF it meets it's requirements - which none of us know
It's fascinating how we go through this back and forth when none of us knows what's in the MOU....but we're certain of our positions...
The Iranians will be rich, if they comply with Trump's orders of giving up their nuclear program, allow for inspections, opening the strait, etc.
well thank you..that' what I have been saying...maybe coming from someone else will help it's acceptance...this was political..
Who said that securing the strait was not an objective...not me. I have said or tried to say, that it was not one of the primary military targets. I also said that you'd need ground troops, but would need to take out defenses, capabilities to reinforce etc before introducing ground troops. Somehow it just seems to me that what people are saying is that the strait should have been higher up on the objectives list...OK, I can accept that opinion, but it's not what I would have done.
Funny you should aks.
Iran is a pioneer in troonsurgeries because of their religious belief that homosexuality is an affront to Allah.
They buckled down and started cutting off healthy tissues so that their "god" wouldn't be mad about two dudes puffin' each others' Peters. Their "logic" is that, if you mutilate one of the dudez then, suddenly, it's back to a heterosexual relationship.
Yes, sure, it seems barbaric. But these are normal people who simply believe Mengele was a one of our preeminent doctors.
I know you won't respond - I assume I'm on ignore so if anyone else wants to pose this to ned, I'd appreciate it.
Let's analyze this post.
1. There WAS a plan to control the strait. (useless as that would be)
2. That would require "removing as much of the [Iranian] defenses as possible first".
3. Trump specifically said he left the army alone.....
Ummm...whut? We had a plan to take the strait that would be preceded by taking out their defenses while "specifically" leaving their army alone??? That's an odd "plan."
You're a f.ucking moron if you believe they will give a single red cent to their biggest regional foe.
It absolutely is coming from the U.S.
You cultist moron.
You don't have a single source to back up your nonsense. Just conjecture from the media. It's laughable, your lack of critical thinking skills. But you just know, because you're a military expert. Lmao.
It was their money then, and it's a METRIC SHITTON MORE of their money now. What is being criticized is the monumental hypocrisy, duh.
You'd think that would be self-evident, wouldn't you. Seems like being a raging apologist for everything-Trump makes you as dumb as a box of rocks.
No, I'm 90. Facts. No Navy, no Air Force, well over 80% of all defense capabilities wiped out, 84% of all missiles wiped out. 95% of all control and command communication wiped out. 5-6 layers, from the Supreme Leader to military leadership wiped out. But hey, Iran is winning. Lmao. If we had done that on D-Day, you'd be celebrating. You simply are disingenuous and hate Trump.
Show where we're sending them cash? I'll be waiting... You've obviously been part of the negotiations. Enlighten us.
The MOU has been released, dumbass.
8. US pledges to make frozen Iranian assets available for use with implementation of MoU