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JD Vance went on the View and it went quite well

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JD VANCE: I am frankly kind of a conspiracy theorist on the Epstein stuff. That's one of the things that's true, is that somebody called me a conspiracy theorist HOSTIN: Chief of Staff Susie Wiles called you a conspiracy theorists VANCE: Absolutely
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JD VANCE: One of the things you see in the Epstein emails is that Jeffrey Epstein hated Donald Trump NAVARRO: They were best friends for about a decade. And remember, he signed that transparency act under duress
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Navarro to JD Vance: "There is no evidence that Maduro was releasing people from insane asylums or jails. This was made up. And we just can't accept it without pushing back."
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HAINES: I can tell my kids why it's important to have borders. It's much harder to explain when someone is dragged out of a house who isnt a violent criminal NAVARRO: I would urge you as a Christian & father to visit detention centers where kids are being held VANCE: I see we have 30 seconds left
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JD VANCE: You say we're anti-minority or anti-Black-- WHOOPI GOLDBERG: No, I didn't say that. I asked -- see? Don't start any stuff with me.
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WHOOPI GOLDBERG: What did Black people do to this administration that has allowed it to really stigmatize folks of color? JD VANCE: What exactly are you talking about? AUDIENCE: *groans*
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two things 1) i wish the traditional political process were willing to ask these people straightforwardly about their antipathy towards blacks and other nonwhites 2) that vance’s instinct is to ingratiate himself and not go on the attack is why he is ultimately cooked [contains quote post or...
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like a boss dog hump GIF
 
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Scrubby said:


She had no response.
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They went to commercial break. Lol.

FTR, this is failed logic. It is true that border security has been a problem. It is true that many bad people needed to be deported. It is also true that the United States Constitution is being trampled on daily and that ICE agents should not be authorized to violate people’s 1st, 4th, and 5th amendment rights.

JD Vance did not address any of that. He simply avoided the question/issue entirely and pivoted to a “whataboutism.” And you lapped it up. Two things can be true at once, Scrub. FTR, I would have done the exact same thing in Vance’s position, but the American people need to start pursuing more intellectual honesty and far less tribalism.
 
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Scrubby said:
I think we can both agree he would be an improvement over trump in 2028??
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Without question.

The problem is I don’t know what he truly stands for because he has to remain loyal to all things Trump. If he is indeed the 2028 nominee, I will scrutinize him carefully. If I think his stated policy objectives are sensible and conservative and he is capable of distancing himself from a lot of the Trump bullsh*t, then I will probably be comfortable in voting for him.

If not, I will vote 3rd party, especially if someone like Gavin Newsom is the Democratic nominee. Actually, if Newsom is indeed the Democratic pick, then I would probably plug my nose, like I did when voting for Kamala, and vote Vance with almost no exceptions.

I’m tired, though, of the two-party system.
 
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RagnarLothbrok said:
I give JD Vance props for having the stones to go on a show like that.
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Agreed, I don't like the guy and he played dumb when they asked him about the erasure of black history, but I have to applaud him for keeping his cool and being cordial and non-inflammatory no matter how much they ganged up on him. We could use a lot more of that.
 
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dpic73 said:
Agreed, I don't like the guy and he played dumb when they asked him about the erasure of black history, but I have to applaud him for keeping his cool and being cordial and non-inflammatory no matter how much they ganged up on him. We could use a lot more of that.
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The only credit he gets is going on. He lied, deflected or down played everything. I enjoyed him getting called out directly with actual follow up unlike the puppets that usually are the ones asking him soft ball questions.
 
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RoseBowlorBust said:
Lol. Sigh you get it a lot of the time and then back to these takes sometimes as well. Baby steps.
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What don’t I get, Chis? Pray tell.

You want a concrete example of why I would vote Vance over Newsom in a heartbeat? Here goes:

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Mississippi, not California, is the education future

A miracle defies the laws of nature. This is why “the Mississippi Miracle,” the sobriquet for the extraordinary gains that students in the Gulf state have made in reading in recent years, is a misnomer. There’s nothing miraculous about a state that adopts phonics and that sets high standards for...
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See, Chis, those are called facts. That’s precisely what happens when radical leftist policies take over a state. And as much as you guys like to derisively refer to Iowa as “Mississippi North,” it would appear such a moniker would be a slap in the face to Mississippi. Meanwhile, the liberal utopia of California is massively failing their children in reading and math despite all the money that California throws at education.

In short, spare me.
 
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Hotshoe said:
He did, actually. He called the local police authorities, the Chief of Police in Florida in 2006 regarding Epstein. He also specifically talked to the FBI. How ignorant are you?
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Yes, he called them AFTER the investigation had started in order to have an alibi that he was first to call so they wouldn't focus on his social circles.

But strangely enough, in 2019, he claimed he had no idea that Epstein abused underage girls.

How do you square that circle? :unsure:
 
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RagnarLothbrok said:
Without question.

The problem is I don’t know what he truly stands for because he has to remain loyal to all things Trump. If he is indeed the 2028 nominee, I will scrutinize him carefully. If I think his stated policy objectives are sensible and conservative and he is capable of distancing himself from a lot of the Trump bullsh*t, then I will probably be comfortable in voting for him.

If not, I will vote 3rd party, especially if someone like Gavin Newsom is the Democratic nominee. Actually, if Newsom is indeed the Democratic pick, then I would probably plug my nose, like I did when voting for Kamala, and vote Vance with almost no exceptions.

I’m tired, though, of the two-party system.
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Spare us the details. Just say “I am a moron, I voted for the dumbest candidate in US political history.”

She really was that bad.
 
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