Greg extension poll lifted from Round Table, thank you RAC93

[Shelby65]

Our play calling once and execution, once we got inside the opponents red zone, stunk.

Absolutely false. Not in the red zone per se, but the failed 4th and 8 fake FG run by Patel against PSU was only to get it on tape so that the next time we play Purdue they won’t know what to expect. Schiano is so far ahead of the rest…his genius is unequaled . No one else in the profession is within miles of his brilliance.

When he cried in West Lafayette, Shelby cried 100x harder. No other coach in recorded history with a 28% conference win pct has been even half as impressive as he.

In his past life he was Knute Rockne. Too bad none of you realize the Rutgers godsend he truly is.

 

[PSAL_Hoops]

I am not saying eating the full contract and buyout is ideal. But 6-6 7-5 is not moving the needle and only would buy Greg this year and next at most. There will not be extensions and there will not be stipulations on the next hire regarding maintaining staff. Not happening.

Yeah - even with an above expectations season I don’t see why we would extend him now. It wouldn’t help Rutgers, and one good year isn’t making him a a flight risk to get picked up by another team. There’d be no purpose.

But I also don’t see a lot of good coming out of rushing to gut the entire offense and defense (have to assume the entire roster hits the portal too - not just the staff) if the defense looks promising and the offense stays steady. A lot could go wrong there too.

 

[NickRU714]

I'm gonna love reading the posts by some of the clowns here after Greg is replaced by the next Shea or Ash and Rutgers still isn't able to get to the level of Ohio State, Michigan, or Oregon. Or Pedd State, USC, or Washington.

Is getting to the level of Ohio State, Michigan, Oregon, Penn State, USC or Washington the new standard for Rutgers HC?

Ok. Sure. Sounds good.
Please explain why keeping HC Schiano makes sense then and how he is achieving that standard?

 

[RUTGERS95]

I am not saying eating the full contract and buyout is ideal. But 6-6 7-5 is not moving the needle and only would buy Greg this year and next at most. There will not be extensions and there will not be stipulations on the next hire regarding maintaining staff. Not happening.

exactly

 

[RUTGERS95]

Absolutely false. Not in the red zone per se, but the failed 4th and 8 fake FG run by Patel against PSU was only to get it on tape so that the next time we play Purdue they won’t know what to expect. Schiano is so far ahead of the rest…his genius is unequaled . No one else in the profession is within miles of his brilliance.

When he cried in West Lafayette, Shelby cried 100x harder. No other coach in recorded history with a 28% conference win pct has been even half as impressive as he.

In his past life he was Knute Rockne. Too bad none of you realize the Rutgers godsend he truly is.

satire?

 

[RUTGERS95]

Is getting to the level of Ohio State, Michigan, Oregon, Penn State, USC or Washington the New standard for Rutgers HC?

Ok. Sure. Sounds good.
Please explain why keeping HC Schiano makes sense then and how he is achieving that standard?

you have to ignore him, he's afflicted by the schianopox and fear of the unknown. I feel sorry him his parents and education failed him.

He'd of stayed in Europe vs taking the voyage to the promised land

 

[DJ Spanky]

satire?

If so, he's not very good at it.

 

[Knight Shift]

he's not good.

FIFY.

 

[NickRU714]

you have to ignore him, he's afflicted by the schianopox and fear of the unknown. I feel sorry him his parents and education failed him.

He'd of stayed in Europe vs taking the voyage to the promised land

I look at like this:
If Syracuse had a coach with a 31-41 record.
15-39 in the ACC
7-6 (3-6), 7-6 (4-5), 5-7 (2-7) over the last three years
And they said "Nope. This is our guy. He's here for life. We'll never get somebody better. We just need to raise more money."

The reaction would be hilarious on this board.
The mocking of their fans would be endless.

 

[LotusAggressor_rivals]

Is getting to the level of Ohio State, Michigan, Oregon, Penn State, USC or Washington the new standard for Rutgers HC?

Ok. Sure. Sounds good.
Please explain why keeping HC Schiano makes sense then and how he is achieving that standard?

This.

 

[Knight Shift]

I look at like this:
If Syracuse had a coach with a 31-41 record.
15-39 in the ACC
7-6 (3-6), 7-6 (4-5), 5-7 (2-7) over the last three years
And they said "Nope. This is our guy. He's here for life. We'll never get somebody better. We just need to raise more money."

The reaction would be hilarious on this board.
The mocking of their fans would be endless.

Dino Babers- 8 years:
Syracuse had a coach like that- Dino Babers 29-43//15-35 (ACC) after 6 years, and it did not end well.

2016	Syracuse	4–8	2–6	T–6th (Atlantic)
2017	Syracuse	4–8	2–6	7th (Atlantic)
2018	Syracuse	10–3	6–2	2nd (Atlantic)	W Camping World	15	15
2019	Syracuse	5–7	2–6	6th (Atlantic)
2020	Syracuse	1–10	1–9	T–14th
2021	Syracuse	5–7	2–6	T–6th (Atlantic)
2022	Syracuse	7–6	4–4	T–3rd (Atlantic)	L Pinstripe
2023	Syracuse	5–6	1–6

41–55 (0.420) 20–45(0.307)

Greg Schiano: 31-43 (0.420)///15-39 (0.277)

2020	Rutgers	3–6	3–6	5th (East)
2021	Rutgers	5–8	2–7	6th (East)	L Gator
2022	Rutgers	4–8	1–8	7th (East)
2023	Rutgers	7–6	3–6	5th (East)	W Pinstripe
2024	Rutgers	7–6	4–5	T–9th	L Rate
2025	Rutgers	5–7	2–7	T–14th

 

[RUTGERS95]

I look at like this:
If Syracuse had a coach with a 31-41 record.
15-39 in the ACC
7-6 (3-6), 7-6 (4-5), 5-7 (2-7) over the last three years
And they said "Nope. This is our guy. He's here for life. We'll never get somebody better. We just need to raise more money."

The reaction would be hilarious on this board.
The mocking of their fans would be endless.

100%
I said this very same thing on the round table a while back. If Greg was at any other school, the hive would be laughing and ridiculing like no one's mother.

you see his recent quote discussing the off-season? holy cow Batman, he's clueless and we're the suckers for paying him. utter embarrassment

 

[Jtung230]

I look at like this:
If Syracuse had a coach with a 31-41 record.
15-39 in the ACC
7-6 (3-6), 7-6 (4-5), 5-7 (2-7) over the last three years
And they said "Nope. This is our guy. He's here for life. We'll never get somebody better. We just need to raise more money."

The reaction would be hilarious on this board.
The mocking of their fans would be endless.

What’s GS ACC record?

are we comparing ACC to the B1G?

this thread is so enlightening. I’ve learned so much.

 

[Knight Shift]

What’s GS ACC record?

are we comparing ACC to the B1G?

this thread is so enlightening. I’ve learned so much.

Sure, his record in the Big East, essentially on par with the ACC, but probably weaker bc there was no Clemson or Notre Dame, was 28-48 (0.368). That's cruddy. There is a pattern here.......

 

[kupuna133]

What’s GS ACC record?

are we comparing ACC to the B1G?

this thread is so enlightening. I’ve learned so much.

Are we in the ACC? Why would his record against non conference be separated out? Not sure how you are compensated at work but my numbers were my numbers.

 

[RUTGERS95]

What’s GS ACC record?

are we comparing ACC to the B1G?

this thread is so enlightening. I’ve learned so much.

it's ok to say it so repeat after me, 'There is no shame in admitting I was wrong. It's ok to change my mind based on the evidence at hand. It's ok to admit, Greg sucks and needs to get the boot'

 

[NickRU714]

What’s GS ACC record?

are we comparing ACC to the B1G?

this thread is so enlightening. I’ve learned so much.

Ok. This better?

If Maryland HC Locksley had a 31-41 record.
15-39 in the B1G.
7-6 (3-6), 7-6 (4-5), 5-7 (2-7) over the last three years
And Maryland said "Nope. This is our guy. He's here for life. We'll never get somebody better. We just need to raise more money."

The reaction would be hilarious on this board.
The mocking of their fans would be endless.

Note: Locksley actual record at Maryland is 37-49 (17-48).
Does he deserve a job for life?

 

[PSAL_Hoops]

Is getting to the level of Ohio State, Michigan, Oregon, Penn State, USC or Washington the new standard for Rutgers HC?

Ok. Sure. Sounds good.
Please explain why keeping HC Schiano makes sense then and how he is achieving that standard?

i have a “sort of” reason. It’s not realistic to expect the defense to be “good” based on the talent level inherited / lackluster port cycle. But if Johansen elevates us to even within striking range of average that would intrigue me to want to see what the new defensive staff could do with a full portal cycle to work with the following year. Which wouldn’t happen if Greg was shown to the door.

That’s kind of my thinking. If the offense pulls off another decent season similar to last year with the defense improving to say 80-90th rank level - I don’t know how many wins we’ll have. It would depend how other teams turn out. But this my break even points of sorts with Greg. Anything better than that on D coupled with close to status quo on offense - and I would want Johansen to get a second year to continue his build more than I would want Greg out instantly. If that makes sense.

 

[Jtung230]

Are we in the ACC? Why would his record against non conference be separated out? Not sure how you are compensated at work but my numbers were my numbers.

I didn’t bring up the ACC comparison. Like you, I found it amusing.

For the record, GS is 5-1 vs the ACC since returning in 2020. Only loss was against WF in the bowl game.

 

[Jtung230]

Dup

 

[Jtung230]

it's ok to say it so repeat after me, 'There is no shame in admitting I was wrong. It's ok to change my mind based on the evidence at hand. It's ok to admit, Greg sucks and needs to get the boot'

Maybe I just have PTSD from the days on being part of the bottom 10. If you’re going to make a change, make a real change. One man isn’t going to bring change. I guess I’m just more realistic.

 

[Knight Shift]

I didn’t bring up the ACC comparison. Like you, I found it amusing.

For the record, GS is 5-1 vs the ACC since returning in 2020. Only loss was against WF in the bowl game.

Beating a 5-7 Syracuse, a 3-9 BC, a 6-7 and 7-6 Va Tech and a Miami team that had most of their starters sitting out is nothing to get excited about. It's the equivalent of beating the bottom feeding B1G teams

 

[kupuna133]

I didn’t bring up the ACC comparison. Like you, I found it amusing.

For the record, GS is 5-1 vs the ACC since returning in 2020. Only loss was against WF in the bowl game.

I don’t find it amusing. I find it saddening. Never expected to beat the top 3-4 programs. But not being able to compete with the middle 8 is embarrassing.

 

[NickRU714]

I didn’t bring up the ACC comparison. Like you, I found it amusing.

For the record, GS is 5-1 vs the ACC since returning in 2020. Only loss was against WF in the bowl game.

To repeat your own point - are we comparing the ACC v. B1G?

We're not in the ACC.
What's our record against the AAC?
Does that matter?

 

[RUTGERS95]

Maybe I just have PTSD from the days on being part of the bottom 10. If you’re going to make a change, make a real change. One man isn’t going to bring change. I guess I’m just more realistic.

I'm with you, I've been saying Rutgers needs a ww2 footing where all resources are positioned towards achieving football success

 

[Knight Shift]

To repeat your own point - are we comparing the ACC v. B1G?

We're not in the ACC.
What's our record against the AAC?
Does that matter?

We are killing it against the MAC and the American though!!!!

 

[RU#1fan]

I don’t find it amusing. I find it saddening. Never expected to beat the top 3-4 programs. But not being able to compete with the middle 8 is embarrassing.

This
23% in Conference winning percentage would get you fired at all P4 programs.

 

[RUTGERS95]

This
23% in Conference winning percentage would get you fired at all P4 programs.

he's an embarrassment

 

[ru66+]

Locksley" s Big record the last 2 years is 2- 15. Is he fired?

 

[kupuna133]

Locksley" s Big record the last 2 years is 2- 15. Is he fired?

Should be. He is also very much on the hot seat. And I’m sure if you ventured to the Maryland board you would see the same topic over there. With many more people calling for his head.

ESPN reveals five college football coaches on the hot seat in 2026

.

www.on3.com

 

[Knight Shift]

Should be. He is also very much on the hot seat. And I’m sure if you ventured to the Maryland board you would see the same topic over there. With many more people calling for his head.

ESPN reveals five college football coaches on the hot seat in 2026

.

www.on3.com

Now we have the least worse defense of Greg?

 

[kupuna133]

Now we have the least worse defense of Greg?

You would think people would do a little research before they post. Locksley probably has the hottest seat in the B1G.

 

[Caliknight]

Yes - correct. That’s exactly my point. That’s why I think the big picture success of the offense and defense on a whole next season is a much more important factor than the record itself in the HC decision for 2027.

If it turns out several teams we play deal with injuries and suck more than expected - it’s certainly possible we could get 6 wins and things not be trending up individually on offense / defense. Hypothetically the OL could be worse with questions around Turner. Perhaps Duff has a Caroo like season but he’s the main bright spot and of course projects to be gone in 2027. And say the defense is only marginally better than last year with nobody with return potential emerging as a star. In that case - I’d have no problem wiping the slate clean at that point in time (though I’m not sure it would happen anyway if we made a bowl).

But on the other hand, if the state of both the offense and defense are in a very good forward looking place - why would we pay the buy out at that point to start over.

it’s for these reasons that I think Greg’s short term future should mostly be attached to the performance of his coordinators this year.

Zero chance he gets extended winning 6 games. None.

 

[Caliknight]

I'm with you, I've been saying Rutgers needs a ww2 footing where all resources are positioned towards achieving football success

0% chance of that happening too. The reality is the opposite is happening.

 

[RUTGERS95]

0% chance of that happening too. The reality is the opposite is happening.

Not liking that its needed big time

 

[RUTGERS95]

You would think people would do a little research before they post. Locksley probably has the hottest seat in the B1G.

There was talk of him being fired yesterday

 

[kupuna133]

There was talk of him being fired yesterday

Yea if there is a hotter seat in the B1G I don’t know of one. Maybe Fickel, but locksley has been at the top of the lists for 2-3 years.

 

[Caliknight]

Not liking that its needed big time

No other B1G dept acts like that. It’s a small time Big East mindset. The school invests more than enough in its football program. It’s up to the fans beyond that.

 

[RU#1fan]

Locksley" s Big record the last 2 years is 2- 15. Is he fired?

If that makes you feel better Wow. Locksley is on the hot seat and most likely will be fired next season. He still has better results as HC than 2.0. Locksley has had 2 recent seasons of 8 Wins {‘23 and ‘22}..Schiano has Zero.

 

[RUTGERS95]

this probably deserves it's own thread but;

Lowest Career Win-Loss Percentages (Established Active Power 4 Coaches)

Coach [1, 2, 3, 4]	Current Team	Career Record	Win-Loss %
Clark Lea	Vanderbilt	26–37	.413
Mike Locksley	Maryland	37–49	.430
Tony Elliott	Virginia	22–26	.458
Greg Schiano	Rutgers	99–108	.478
Dave Aranda	Baylor	36–37	.493

GREG 2.0 is .431