Explain how the play was ignorant? Defense was behind him. If he doesn’t go for the rim he gets fouled two seconds later at most and is shooting free throws up 1 with 11 seconds to go. He also could have easily gotten an and 1 to secure the win. This play was anything but ignorant, unfortunate with the no foul call but hardly ignorant.
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Explain how the play was ignorant? Defense was behind him. If he doesn’t go for the rim he gets fouled two seconds later at most and is shooting free throws up 1 with 11 seconds to go. He also could have easily gotten an and 1 to secure the win. This play was anything but ignorant, unfortunate with the no foul call but hardly ignorant.
This strikes me as a rather ignorant statement itself. Lots of objectively correct decisions don’t work out. That doesn’t make them “ignorant” if it was still a smart decision to try.
I won’t say Fox made the right decision, but I agree with that 2010 poster that it was not as bad as people are making it sound. Even if Fox holds the ball, he’d have been quickly fouled and then he has to make two free throws and then the Knicks get it back.
Is that really such a better deal than just going for the layup?
Lots of people calling for ridiculous fouls to be called. Nobody in their right mind would call that a foul on Onoby in that instant, gimme a break. Sometimes you just need to make a winning play and not get bailed out by a ref, especially in the NBA finals. It’s like the idiots wanting Jordan to get called for an offensive foul with his game winner against Utah. These are grown men, if you want the foul called make sure it’s no question.
Dude's worth 100 mil, he'll be alright
This Spurs team is going to be a problem for the league. I’m a long time Knicks fan but have been impressed with SA all playoffs. They’re young, but are getting experience.
I’d agree with you in every way but their attitudes. Never seen a team act cockier after a loss ever. Makes them unlikable in my book. Give me quiet *** OG every day of the week over the entitled baby “we would have won but just needed more time” BS.
Bad take. You're up, have the ball with only seconds left in the game. Running clock is more valuable than the points. Had he dribbled towards the rim then circled out could have burned off more precious seconds. Knicks had no TOs remaining leaving them to drive full court to make a desperation 3 against a set defense. The layup was contested by one of the NBA's best defenders (sidenote: shut Jamal Murray down UK vs IU).
Maybe the ankle is still bothering him but he doesn't look like the same player. He was never a great 3-point shooter. Take away his quickness and he looks pretty average.
His max contract kicks in next season. In 2029-30 he'll make $61 million.
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His max contract kicks in next season. In 2029-30 he'll make $61 million.
De'Aaron Fox | NBA Contracts & Salaries | Spotrac.com
De'Aaron Fox signed a 4 year, $221,760,000 contract with the San Antonio Spurs with an average annual salary of $55,440,000.
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One thing I think is a little unfair on Fox, is this notion that because he's not a 21 or 22-year old, and has 8/9 years of NBA experience, that he's just supposed to not make mistake in playoff games.
Sure, he has more experience than Wemby and Harper, but If my memory serves, he's played in just ONE playoff series before this. In contrast, a lot of these Knicks have played in 7 or 8 playoff series.
Sure, he has more experience than Wemby and Harper, but If my memory serves, he's played in just ONE playoff series before this. In contrast, a lot of these Knicks have played in 7 or 8 playoff series.
That drive was not hero ball. Some of the threes he jacked up would definitely qualify, but that drive is what you are taught to do.
The Rockets wouldn't do that trade straight up.
How about this one? Fox, Carter Bryant, and a few draft picks for Gianis
I love Fox, but if you don't see how ignorant that shot was, you don't know basketball
There's not a decent coach in America who would tell their player to take a contested lay up vs pulling the ball out and wasting as much time as possible in that scenario
There's not a decent coach in America who would tell their player to take a contested lay up vs pulling the ball out and wasting as much time as possible in that scenario
Ive never heard of a basketball play being called "ignorant" and I've now seen it like a dozen times in this thread. Not wrong, just makes me laugh lol
He had an open lane and the chance for a three point play that would have sealed it vs free throws. Every coach in America makes that call. There’s some group hysteria happening that you are more than welcome to indulge in but ffs he had the lane and should have gone to the line after he got hacked.
It's not even the layup, it's being totally unfocused and not even trying to blockout. On the Dan Patrick show, they said he's in J.R. Reed land now. Ouch.
@Smeegs , sometimes snorting too many Lineski's makes a man paranoid .
Then there's his cheering for UK to LOSE,to quicken Pope's firing. All said jokingly.
Don't look now, but SA will win the next game and then just like that New York has another "must win" game. Wenby now gets 2 days off between games, so look out for more drama.
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@Smeegs , sometimes snorting too many Lineski's makes a man paranoid .
Then there's his cheering for UK to LOSE,to quicken Pope's firing. All said jokingly.Don't look now, but SA will win the next game and then just like that New York has another "must win" game. Wenby now gets 2 days off between games, so look out for more drama.
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If he gets fouled with 8-10 seconds left he has to shoot the biggest free throws of his life with the crowd going berserk. If he misses one and the Knicks win, people would kill him for dribbling the ball out and not going for the layup. He had a bad game but I don't think his decision was awful.
Yeah forget the actual video because of the account that shared it, even though multiple people did, right. Castle does commit an offensive foul but he gets pushed before it happened. Still doesn’t look like he stepped out which was my point. I’m glad they called it. lol. I want the Knicks to win.
Fox was double teaming Brunson on the last play. It would have been impossible for him to get over and block out OG. I imagine that was the game plan from the coach because everyone in the building knew Brunson was going to take the shot.
No one is going to kill him for making a good decision, even if he misses a FT. This was on top of about 5 other horrible decisions that quarter from him.
He played like a chicken S all series. Spurs last win, he tossed the ball away to Castle to take the icing free throws rather than holding it like a vet. He's been a bit exposed in this series (I know he's playing on a less than 100% ankle).
I agree that the Spurs have that edge about them, which is such a contrast to the great teams Pop coached.
Wembanyama has that competitive fire that the greatest players all had. He’s gone too far with it at times and if he can get some maturity about him, he destined for Mt Rushmore.
It will be his undoing if he can’t reel it in some.
He may have been (and probably was) pushed but with the way they were calling the game up to that point, there is no way they could have called that foul. Also, the refs missed calling the worst goaltend by Wemby in the history of basketball.
Even if he doesn’t block him out, he could’ve at least made an effort to go for the rebound once the shot went up. He actually was initially in better position to get to that ball than Anunoby. But the difference is Anunoby reacted instantly while Fox just stood flat-footed watching.
Not De’Aaron’s finest moment.
No. No edge. They sound like sore losers every time they open their mouths to me.
Oh, they definitely could’ve called a foul there, but it would’ve been an offensive foul.
Castle, not Hart, is the one who’s blatantly fouling there by using his elbow to try to bully his way to the baseline.
It was dumb. You only lay that in if you know for sure it wont be blocked. Hell dunk it if nothing else. Had he dunked it would've at least been a foul.
With that little time left, if its anything less than 100% you start playing keep away. Fox could've burned much of that clock with just his speed.
I love Fox but he made a lot of bad decisions late in the game. Imo, if the Spurs lose the series I think they will trade Fox.
No. He was doubling Brunson with Wemby. Theoretically he should have found OG to block him out. Obvious coaching call, because as soon as the ball was passed he ran to double. I’m not sure what coach was thinking. Wemby on Brunson was the matchup Brunson hunted the whole second half. Keep Wemby in to protect the paint and boards.
No doubt. We seen them let KAT get away with a travel after driving baseline, but let it go since they let a foul by Wemby on the drive go. I like letting them play but it’s led to some obvious no calls and frustration with the players. Made for some sloppy play at times.
Not when you’re up by one at the end of the 4th with the shot clock turned off and a tough and taller defender having the angle between you and the basket. Some call it situational awareness. But whatever…
Fox was facing the opposite direction because he was guarding Brunson while OG was already in a full out sprint directly to the basket.
Fox is only to blame if he was not supposed to double Brunson. If the coach told him to double then that is 100% on the coach because no one had any position to block out OG from getting a free run. I assume they thought Brunson would shoot it with less time remaining instead of just chucking it.
So it’s not his job to crash the boards or at least clog the lane when he KNOWS he left OG and he has a free run?? Come on. I love Fox but this homerism 101. Fox was guarding the inbounds passer........OG. That means he KNEW he was leaving him and then flat quit on the play.
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