OT: How do you lose a 29 pt 2nd half BBall lead; said they could have run out the clock??? is that true?

uihawk82

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I have seen this so many times in the NBA. It happens once in a blue moon in NFL football, it happens a lot in the NBA. There was always talk of the league slyly, secretly getting the refs to make this happen to get more TV money, and this conspiracy goes back to the 1970's.

I didnt watch the game, I saw some highlights, but it was 76-49 spurs at halftime. The main highlight was Fox getting the def rebound with 13 seconds left and up 1 pt and driving down to his basket but he was well defended by a big guy. and by that time there was 8-10 seconds remaining.

just pull it out and dribble around and pass it to an open teammate, WTF did he do but took a terrible,even off balance sort of 2 ft layup shot that was blocked.

I am not going to go thru every 2nd half spurs possession in a 24 minute half of bball with a 24 second shot clock you might have 30 possessions. And if you just run your offense and run the shot clock down an extra 5 seconds on every possession where you settle for a long jumper , lets say 12 possessions then that is nearly a minute of clock time.

No way you lose that game, the spurs coach should have been pilloried and the players questioned.

When was the last time you saw a 99% win probability and such a lead vanish into a loss?
 

fivecardstud14

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Three point spamming is usually the case. Spurs showed their age in the second half last night. Brunson guarding Harper the whole 4th QTR yet Mitch Johnson never set up a play for him. Fox doing stupid stuff, young guys freezing up, & the coach not doing anything makes for a bad recipe.
 
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Playing Wemby so many minutes with the big lead in the third seemed foolish to me at the time and it turned out to really hurt them as he was absolutely wiped and a non factor in the 4th.

Just awful all the way around for SAS in that 2nd half.
 

eyesofhawk

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I have seen this so many times in the NBA. It happens once in a blue moon in NFL football, it happens a lot in the NBA. There was always talk of the league slyly, secretly getting the refs to make this happen to get more TV money, and this conspiracy goes back to the 1970's.

I didnt watch the game, I saw some highlights, but it was 76-49 spurs at halftime. The main highlight was Fox getting the def rebound with 13 seconds left and up 1 pt and driving down to his basket but he was well defended by a big guy. and by that time there was 8-10 seconds remaining.

just pull it out and dribble around and pass it to an open teammate, WTF did he do but took a terrible,even off balance sort of 2 ft layup shot that was blocked.

I am not going to go thru every 2nd half spurs possession in a 24 minute half of bball with a 24 second shot clock you might have 30 possessions. And if you just run your offense and run the shot clock down an extra 5 seconds on every possession where you settle for a long jumper , lets say 12 possessions then that is nearly a minute of clock time.

No way you lose that game, the spurs coach should have been pilloried and the players questioned.

When was the last time you saw a 99% win probability and such a lead vanish into a loss?
HOLY HELL!

Just what exactly are you implying? The refs make what happen?

And of course you seem to be implying something without even having watched the game. Classic 🤣

Each team gets about 50 possessions per half.

At what point were the Spurs to have started running clock? Do you watch the NBA? Oh wait, probably not
 
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Spurs join a growing list of notable collapses in sports history


NEW YORK (AP) — The San Antonio Spurs have plenty of company in being on the losing end of a dramatic comeback.

The New York Knicks rallied from 29 points down and beat the Spurs 107-106 on OG Anunoby ‘s tip-in with 1.2 seconds remaining in Game 4 of the NBA Finals on Wednesday night.

The stunning scene left the Knicks, who have just two titles in their 80-year history and hadn’t even been to the finals since 1999, with a 3-1 lead and three chances to win the best-of-seven series — starting with Game 5 on Saturday night in San Antonio.

Jalen Brunson (36 points) and Anunoby (33 points) led the charge and sent the Spurs into sports lore. Here’s a look at other memorable meltdowns:

Matt Ryan and the Falcons provide a Supersized collapse​

The Falcons led 28-3 with 8:31 remaining in the third quarter of Super Bowl 51, a seemingly insurmountable lead even with quarterback Tom Brady and the Patriots on the other side of the field. But Brady & Co. scored 25 consecutive points — the largest comeback in Super Bowl history — to send the 2017 finale to overtime. New England sealed the victory by winning the coin toss and scoring a touchdown on the opening drive.

Northern Iowa gets pressed into a stunning loss in the NCAA Tournament​

Northern Iowa led Texas A&M 69-57 with 44 seconds left in the second round of the 2016 NCAA Tournament before the Aggies turned up the press and sparked the largest final-minute comeback in Division I history. The 11th-seeded Panthers committed four turnovers and failed to get the ball past the half-court line. The Aggies closed with a 14-2 run that forced overtime. They prevailed in double OT.

Jordan Spieth melts down on the back nine at the Masters​

Spieth, then 22, started the back nine with a five-shot lead at Augusta National in 2016, but he bogeyed Nos. 10 and 11 and quadruple-bogeyed the par-3 12th. By the time he got to the 13th tee, he was facing a three-shot deficit.

Yankees blow a 3-0 lead against the rival Red Sox​

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Jean van de Velde delivers late drama at the British Open​

Van de Velde entered the final round of the 1999 Open at Carnoustie, Scotland, with a five-shot lead. He stepped to No. 18 with a three-stroke advantage before one of the biggest meltdowns in golf history. He hit a grandstand, found a creek and ended up with a triple-bogey to join Justin Leonard and Paul Lawrie in a four-hole playoff. Lawrie, 10 shots back entering the final round, won by three.

Greg Norman falters in the final round at the Masters​

Norman took a six-shot lead into the final round at Augusta National in 1996 but stumbled spectacularly by shooting 78 in the final round. Norman lost the lead by the 12th hole and ended up finishing five strokes behind winner Nick Faldo.

Knicks get choked out by Reggie Miller and the Pacers​

The New York Knicks held a 105-99 lead with 18.7 seconds remaining before Indiana star Reggie Miller caught fire and sent the Knicks to one of the more stunning end-game collapses in league lore. Miller scored eight points in nine seconds in Game 1 of the 1995 Eastern Conference semifinals. He hit a 3-pointer, stole the ensuing inbounds pass and drained another trey to tie the game at 105. The Knicks had chances to close it out, but John Starks missed two free throws and Patrick Ewing missed a 10-footer before Miller was fouled on the rebound. Miller sank both free throws to give the Pacers a 107-105 victory. The Pacers went on to win the series in seven games.

Frank Reich and the Bills rally from a 35-3 hole to beat the Oilers​

Houston led 35-3 in the fourth quarter but failed to slow down backup Reich, who was filling in for star quarterback Jim Kelly. Reich ended the day with four TD passes, including three to Andre Reed. Buffalo’s Steve Christie kicked the winning field goal in overtime as the Bills rallied to win 41-38.

Maple Leafs stun the Red Wings to make NHL history​


After losing the first three games in 1942, the Toronto Maple Leafs won the next four to upset the Detroit Red Wings in seven games, winning their fourth Stanley Cup and becoming the first team in North American sports history to overcome a 3-0 series deficit to win a playoff series.

 

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One play that stood out to me is where Josh Hart could have dunked the ball on a fast break, but instead he finessed it. Missed opportunity. Aaaagggggh! Still got the W but, damn........ Spurs? Whaaaaa???? Anunoby has all this SPACCCCE!!!!!!!!! LOL.

 

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HOLY HELL!

Just what exactly are you implying? The refs make what happen?

And of course you seem to be implying something without even having watched the game. Classic 🤣

Each team gets about 50 possessions per half.

At what point were the Spurs to have started running clock? Do you watch the NBA? Oh wait, probably not
Guaranteed not to watch the NBA. OP reaching for conspiracies, but it's as simple as the Spurs being a young team and playing like a young team in the bright lights.

The only thing the NBA is *allegedly* guilty of 'rigging' is extending a decided series for TV revenue. Scott 'the Extender' Foster wasn't in the crew last night, so that doesn't seem likely last night. I'm sure he will be in San Antonio so we get a Finals Game 6 win in MSG.
 
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uihawk82

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HOLY HELL!

Just what exactly are you implying? The refs make what happen?

And of course you seem to be implying something without even having watched the game. Classic 🤣

Each team gets about 50 possessions per half.

At what point were the Spurs to have started running clock? Do you watch the NBA? Oh wait, probably not
No I do not watch live NBA games, they are boring, it is Chuck-A-Trey . The players are great players, great athletes but I sort of stopped watching after Jordan, after Don Nelson and a few other coaches who had great motion offenses with great passing were working.

You do remember that the NBA has had some crooked refs, some game rigging going on, or do you turn a blind eye to the headlines.

So you are saying the average possession in an NBA game is 14 to 15 seconds, yeah I guess so with Chuck A Trey no offense basketball
 

uihawk82

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HOLY HELL!

Just what exactly are you implying? The refs make what happen?

And of course you seem to be implying something without even having watched the game. Classic 🤣

Each team gets about 50 possessions per half.

At what point were the Spurs to have started running clock? Do you watch the NBA? Oh wait, probably not
And even in the 7 minutes of highlights I watched there were a lot of missed calls by the refs and that last block by the knicks definitely looks like a missed foul call. But even if that foul is called it might only be a 3 point spurs lead with a few seconds to go
 

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No I do not watch live NBA games, they are boring, it is Chuck-A-Trey . The players are great players, great athletes but I sort of stopped watching after Jordan, after Don Nelson and a few other coaches who had great motion offenses with great passing were working.

You do remember that the NBA has had some crooked refs, some game rigging going on, or do you turn a blind eye to the headlines.

So you are saying the average possession in an NBA game is 14 to 15 seconds, yeah I guess so with Chuck A Trey no offense basketball
Quite a few bad takes here.
 

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No I do not watch live NBA games, they are boring, it is Chuck-A-Trey . The players are great players, great athletes but I sort of stopped watching after Jordan, after Don Nelson and a few other coaches who had great motion offenses with great passing were working.

You do remember that the NBA has had some crooked refs, some game rigging going on, or do you turn a blind eye to the headlines.

So you are saying the average possession in an NBA game is 14 to 15 seconds, yeah I guess so with Chuck A Trey no offense basketball

And even in the 7 minutes of highlights I watched there were a lot of missed calls by the refs and that last block by the knicks definitely looks like a missed foul call. But even if that foul is called it might only be a 3 point spurs lead with a few seconds to go
I'll ask again. What exactly are you implying?
 

uihawk82

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I'll ask again. What exactly are you implying?
Some time late in that game a knick headbutted wemby or some spur, it might have been accidental but it was not called, just weird when the ball was near those two guys if not in the knicks guys hand. how can 3 seasoned, highly paid refs because they are supposed to be good, miss a head butt
 

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Playing Wemby so many minutes with the big lead in the third seemed foolish to me at the time and it turned out to really hurt them as he was absolutely wiped and a non factor in the 4th.

Just awful all the way around for SAS in that 2nd half.
i only saw the late 4th quarter meltdown and wemby could barely move...seemed to me anybody else off the bench would've contributed something. so could've used wemby to build the lead and played someone else to seal the win in 4th.
 

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Some time late in that game a knick headbutted wemby or some spur, it might have been accidental but it was not called, just weird when the ball was near those two guys if not in the knicks guys hand. how can 3 seasoned, highly paid refs because they are supposed to be good, miss a head butt
So you are implying that refs fixed the game for NY?

I don't understand what's so hard about my question.

What exactly, is your accusation?
 

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I saw Anunoby had Iowa in his Final 4.. was there a real shot at him or was it obvious he was going to Indiana?