Good point. She reminds me of Scott frost. Never her fault ever. Always throws team or players under the bus
Caitlin's late logo three delivers win for Fever
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Never said anything like that.
Said I don't like the usage of the term, "logo 3". "Logo" should be left unsaid. It's bad for the game
Possibly if it forces the defense to adjust everything they do because of how you change the dimensions of the court and spacing. See CC22 at Iowa. Its called gravity.
How is the word "logo" bad for the game? Lol.
Yes, I'm aware of the dynamic on the court.
But that doesn't have anything to do calling a 3 pointer, a "long 3 pointer". The game is over. No additional benefit beyond 3 points will be received from the play
Your beating a dead horse here. We're "darn near everybody" is going to call them "logo threes". You can stand opposed. Enjoy.....
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I mean, I figured it's obvious.
Long distance shots being sensationalized, gives kids the wrong idea, and they end up playing bad ball.
I'm not sure how that isn't completely straightforward.
Let alone, the obvious impact that the misunderstanding/misapplication of 3pt metrics has had
30+ foot three pointers are not a low percentage shot for CC. Hell midway through last season her shooting % from 30+ feet out was around 45%.
Why on earth do you believe a player who breaks through the game's traditional boundaries based on her unique talents and abilities sends the wrong message to kids?
What a weird take. Lol.
I can't imagine what would've happened if he was watching the first time Pistol Pete made a behind-the-back pass. My god the dude's head might've exploded. "UNNECESSARY! SENDING THE WRONG MESSAGE TO KIDS!" Lol.
AGAIN,
NOT the actions of the players.
But how those actions are PORTRAYED.
No need to mischaracterize
Just when I think you can't possibly suck anymore than you do
Ok so why shouldn't the play of someone who breaks through the game's traditional boundaries based on her unique talents and abilities be celebrated by magnifying the media coverage and having those plays and that game highlighted and spotlighted?
CC has made the "Logo 3" a legit part of the game when it never was before. Why shouldn't it be promoted to kids?
He's a weird dude. Lol. Glad he never coached my kids. My god what a drab and soul crushing experience that would've been for them.
AGAIN, you're the one who keeps talking about CC. I have yet to.
And the logo 3 was around long before CC. Ever heard of Steph Curry?
Why would you want kids shooting 30 footers? Because again, that's exactly what's going to continue to happen, as long as shot distance continues to be glorified.
Again, quite straightforward. I'm not sure how any of it can be argued against
Steph plays in the WNBA?
Lol. It's never been part of the women's game. And why wouldn't you want kids seeing that 30-foot three pointers can be a pretty deadly and legit weapon for those who can master it?
Yeah, a coach who tells his players to NOT pay attention to all the overblown and damaging "hype" around players like Michael Jordan and Steph Curry and Caitlin Clark doesn't scream "creative" to me. Lol.
I'm not talking about the WNBA. I'm talking about the game in general.
Now you're talking about what kids are seeing. Slick dodge, to not have to admit that you don't want kids shooting 30 footers.
Nor do you want kids taking bad shots from any distance
Isn't that what you're whining about? Sensationalistic coverage of logo 3s being seen by kids and thus being detrimental to the future of the game because it's warping their development?
If not, what exactly are you whining about?
And I want every youth basketball player in the country watching CC's game and seeing the celebration of her LOGO 3s. If you're worried that 10 year olds are going to start heaving up 35 footers during games then you're every bit as dumb as you seem. Lol.
Quite possibly the stupidest take I’ve ever read on literally any topic whatsoever. Like ever.
On second thought, scratch the “possibly” part. It is and there really isn’t a close second.
“Michael, these circus dunks are diverting attention from all the fine dribbling happening on the court. Let’s focus on what most kids can be good at. Most kids can be fine dribblers.”
“Larry, shooting from behind the backboard is an extremely low percentage shot. Kids will see that and they might stop working on their boxing out skills. We need kids to be serious about fundamentals like boxing out.”
“Magic, this ‘Showtime’ nonsense has to stop. Media outlets are even starting to promote it by that very name. Kids see that and they’re going to completely lose any appreciation for the beauty of the four corners offense. Slow, deliberate passing is what we need our kids to master. Don’t upstage all the great two-handed chest passes that are happening out there.”
He's against the sensationalistic coverage of logo 3s because it's damaging to the sport but in no way is against the sensationalistic coverage of Caitlin Clark's logo 3s nor does he think said coverage of Caitlin Clark's logo 3s is damaging to the sport no he never said that read better it's just that sensationalistic coverage of logo 3s when seen by youth players may inspire them to start shooting logo 3s when they have no business shooting said logo 3s but he's not at all saying that sensationalistic coverage of Caitlin Clark's logo 3s would inspire youth players to start shooting logo 3s when they have no business shooting logo 3s no he never said that read better and it's not even like logo 3s are a new thing because.... Steph Curry.
Lol.
He's apparently also a very creative coach.
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Why should they throw the football down field? Oh, my bad, I forgot who I was asking that......
Well that's exactly what's happening. Kids are jacking up shots that they have no business taking. They are also wasting time "practicing" 30 footers, instead of puting that time into working on their games.
Of course I want kids to see the example of every bit of any great player's greatness.
That doesn't mean kids won't get the wrong idea about things that get overvalued.
The ESPN's of the world will tell you, that of course they are glorifying the distance of shots (making it more important than it actually is). To market entertainment, is their job.
I just wish they would be a little more conscious of the example they set for kids, with the platform that they have, and mix in some educational material, that is going to actually help kids get better.
And I wish us adults in the world (such as the OP), would be more conscious of the example they set for kids, and be more careful about what we are glorifying.
Yes, it was very similar with MJ. Kids wasted their entire day trying stupid dunks. All sorts of bad one-on-one play began sprouting up in the youth game, as kids only wanted to be like Mike.
For how long were copycat execs trying to replicate MJ, by vetting alpha wing players, and trying to build around iso-ball? Well it turns out, iso-ball is a terrible concept that didn't really work for anybody. That's why MJ was MJ. Hello?
And that's why Curry is Curry. His bombs have unfortunately trickled their way into bad ball at the youth level. And in the pros, the attempted copycating of the splash brothers has been criminal in its level of damage to the game.
30 footers are a completely unsustainable brand of ball, unless you are Steph Curry. It's even questionable at this point, whether CC will remain CC, in terms of the production from bombs.
30 footers are simply, almost always, terrible basketball. And there's no reason for them to even be attempted at the youth level, as the defenses are not able to force offenses that far from the basket. Nor are the bodies the size of pros. So the extra spacing/gravity is not needed.
And simply, as long as shot distance continues to be glorified, kids will get the wrong idea.
I grew up asking those who were wastefully enamored with dunks, if the dunk was worth more than 2 points. Now I ask people if logo 3's are worth more than 3 points
Where do you get this crap from? Do you guys understand English?
I have taken nothing away from the actions that those players have been able to perform on the court. And would have never suggested that those actions shouldn't have been performed. All brilliant players
I can safely say you are one dude I would never, ever want to have a beer with.
Lol.
Man, talk about sucking every last ounce of joy out of watching and playing sports.
Read better, bro.
AGAIN, you are the one who keeps trying to make this about CC.
I have only said that glorifying shot distance, commonly done with the term, "logo 3", is bad for the game
Well, I'm the one invested in the quality of the game.
If you haven't noticed, the product has gotten worse in the major American sports
Good questionWhy should they throw the football down field? Oh, my bad, I forgot who I was asking that......
I'm going to go out on a limb and say that I've spent WAYYYYYYYYYYYYY more time in gyms with young women working on their games than you have and yes, they will occasionally chuck shots outside of their range and try passes that have absolutely no shot at working, but that is a very small % of the work they are doing. It's ok to let them have some fun and experiment with things while getting their work in.
Again, my comments have been about the game in general. I've spent plenty of time in gyms with young men.
I don't think I've said anything that works against what you're saying.
And I think the accuracy of what I've said, stands as well
You should take your advice and read better. You didn’t answer the question that was asked.
Side note, please cease and desist the usage of the word ‘bomb’ to describe a long shot. It has a negative connotation and may cause kids to stay away from the game.
While not outstanding the metrics that are out there indicate that it isn’t as bad as most assume it to be.