I don't see Platner having any chance against Collins...

baltimorened

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The more information that comes out about Platner, the worse it gets. The D's continue to do a terrible job in selecting candidates:

The Democratic establishment begrudgingly moves to embrace Graham Platner - POLITICO
there are some on the right who have professed that there's a lot more on Platner to come out. But they preserved the new stuff until closer to the election. These same people intimate that they wanted Platner to be the dem candidate.

But, those are some of the same people who repeated the "war will be over soon" a couple of times.
 

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Is Trump going to be on the ballot in Maine? Republicans typically don't show up unless Trump is on the ballot, and I suspect there won't be a rabid movement of Republicans beating down the door to vote for Susan Collins.

Trump doesn't need to be on the ballot. The D's did a lousy job in choosing Platner. It will be interesting to see the next couple of weeks to see if the D's force him off the ballot.

Graham Platner Can Still Be Replaced by Democrats After Primary—Here’s How
 

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Trump doesn't need to be on the ballot. The D's did a lousy job in choosing Platner. It will be interesting to see the next couple of weeks to see if the D's force him off the ballot.

Graham Platner Can Still Be Replaced by Democrats After Primary—Here’s How
It's a verifiable fact Republican turnout is incredibly depressed whenever Trump isn't on the ballot. Couple that with people being more and more upset about the traditional corporate politicians doing nothing but making themselves more wealthy, and Platner appealing across the aisle, and I don't really think he's in a bad spot.
 

dpic73

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Hillary polled ahead of Trump. Kamala polled ahead of Trump. How did that work out?
National polls only measure the popular vote, which Hillary won by 3 million votes, so those polls were correct.

The polls for the 2024 election showed that Trump and Kamala were essentially tied by the time of the election with a 3.5% margin of error. He won by 1.47% so those polls were also accurate.

State level polling is popular vote only and they have all consistently showed him with a lead. That may change if any more allegations emerge but if the vote were held today, he would stand a very good chance of winning.

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It's a verifiable fact Republican turnout is incredibly depressed whenever Trump isn't on the ballot. Couple that with people being more and more upset about the traditional corporate politicians doing nothing but making themselves more wealthy, and Platner appealing across the aisle, and I don't really think he's in a bad spot.

Democrat Congressional approval is around 20%. There isn't a lot of energy to show up at the polls R's or I's for a dirtbag like Planter. There are many D's that have doubts about him.
 
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National polls only measure the popular vote, which Hillary won by 3 million votes, so those polls were correct.

The polls for the 2024 election showed that Trump and Kamala were essentially tied by the time of the election with a 3.5% margin of error. He won by 1.47% so those polls were also accurate.

State level polling is popular vote only and they have all consistently showed him with a lead. That may change if any more allegations emerge but if the vote were held today, he would stand a very good chance of winning.

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Did the polls show that she'd lose all of the swing states?
 

dpic73

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Democrat Congressional approval is around 20%. There isn't a lot of energy to show up at the polls R's or I's for a dirtbag like Planter. There are many D's that have doubts about him.
Democrats have flipped 30 Republican seats since the election, including wins in deep red districts in Texas and Arkansas. Republicans have flipped none. So that 20% approval is irrelevant and doesn't measure voter enthusiasm to send Trump a message. These seats wouldn't have flipped without help from Independents and Republicans so I wouldn't use the Dem approval rate as your barometer for what will happen in Maine.
 

fskillet

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Democrat Congressional approval is around 20%. There isn't a lot of energy to show up at the polls R's or I's for a dirtbag like Planter. There are many D's that have doubts about him.
Which is probably why an outsider like Platner is polling so favorably in Maine...

There are plenty of people that have doubts about him, and I'm one of them, but I'd prefer an outsider to some corporate politician who's going to do more of the same. This, ultimately, comes down to what Mainers want to do, and I could see him edging out Collins because she's just a milquetoast corporate politician who has been in office for almost half her life, despite originally claiming she'd only serve two terms.
 

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Democrats have flipped 30 Republican seats since the election, including wins in deep red districts in Texas and Arkansas. Republicans have flipped none. So that 20% approval is irrelevant and doesn't measure voter enthusiasm to send Trump a message. These seats wouldn't have flipped without help from Independents and Republicans so I wouldn't use the Dem approval rate as your barometer for what will happen in Maine.

How many of them were Nazi's?
 

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Platner has the support of the radical left. Not the mainstream D's, I's or Rs.

The radical lefties are about radical lefty candidates.

Collins is a moderate R. Unlike Platner, she will gain a lot of support from the middle.

The D congress has a disapproval rate of 73%.
Platner has the support of former Obama staffers like the Pod Save America guys and is endorsed by Chuck Schumer. Collins might try to be a moderate but she is no real moderate. Last I checked Platner wasn't in Congress
 

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I think your D Congress disapproval rate isn't making the argument you want it to make. In fact, you could say it's making the opposite argument.

Actually, it does. The D's are polling poorly with the moderate D's, I's and R's. Other than a few radical lefties, there isn't much left to support him.

A Nazi who abuses women won't get very far in the general election.
 
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Actually, it does. The D's are polling poorly with the moderate D's, I's and R's. Other than a few radical lefties, there isn't much left to support him.

A Nazi who abuses women won't get very far in the general election.
If the current crop of congressional Democrats are polling poorly, it's only logical to think an outsider who blew out the corporate Dem nominee - Janet Mills - would have much more momentum with active democrats/independents. Say what you will, but with as poorly viewed as the Democrat party is currently, the Republican party is a trainwreck to all who aren't diehard MAGAs.

I think the election is likely a coinflip, mainly since AIPAC and corporatist Dems really don't want Platner to win, and I expect there to be a staggering amount of anti-Platner ads released leading up to November.

Platner's doing the same thing Trump did 10 years ago, and time will tell if he'll be able to pull it out.
 

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The D congress has a disapproval rate of 73%.
You keep throwing out numbers without any documentation. Here are some polls.

Republican Party Favorability​

Democratic Party Favorability | President Trump Favorability
pollsterdatesampleFavorableUnfavorablespread
RCP Average3/12 - 6/838.655.3Spread-16.7
Economist/YouGov6/5 - 6/81438 RV4156Spread-15
Financial Times5/29 - 6/11537 RV3948Spread-9
Marquette5/20 - 5/26857 RV4158Spread-17
Cygnal5/5 - 5/61500 LV3955Spread-16
Pew Research4/20 - 4/265103 A4058Spread-18
FOX News4/17 - 4/201001 RV4258Spread-16
CNBC4/15 - 4/191000 RV3552Spread-17
CNN3/26 - 3/30951 RV3457Spread-23
Quinnipiac3/19 - 3/231191 RV3553Spread-18
Yahoo News3/12 - 3/161145 RV4058Spread-18

Democratic Party Favorability​

Republican Party Favorability | President Trump Favorability
pollsterdatesampleFavorableUnfavorablespread
RCP Average3/12 - 6/836.556.1Spread-19.6
Economist/YouGov6/5 - 6/81438 RV4157Spread-16
Financial Times5/29 - 6/11537 RV4048Spread-8
Marquette5/20 - 5/26857 RV3661Spread-25
Cygnal5/5 - 5/61500 LV4253Spread-11
Pew Research4/20 - 4/265103 A3959Spread-20
FOX News4/17 - 4/201001 RV4258Spread-16
CNBC4/15 - 4/191000 RV2752Spread-25
CNN3/26 - 3/30951 RV3058Spread-28
Quinnipiac3/19 - 3/231191 RV3156Spread-25
Yahoo News3/12 - 3/161145 RV3759Spread-22
 

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Actually, it does. The D's are polling poorly with the moderate D's, I's and R's. Other than a few radical lefties, there isn't much left to support him.

A Nazi who abuses women won't get very far in the general election.
Doesn't understand the disapproval numbers are due to Democrats anger with their own party for allowing Trump to win again and not doing anything to stop his authoritarian rampage. It is not a reflection of how they feel about new candidates for office.
 
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Doesn't understand the disapproval numbers are due to Democrats anger with their own party for allowing Trump to win again and not doing anything to stop his authoritarian rampage. It is not a reflection of how they feel about new candidates for office.

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