Big Ten to discuss league-wide mandate against playing Texas Tech

[mosito]

Penn State Sandusky?
Michigan Sign Stealing?

Conferences, as far as I can remember, have never imposed additonal punishments beyond what occurs with the NCAA.

I remember the B10 imposing a punishment allowed by their bylaws on Michigan before the NCAA even had a ruling

Just because it was not harsh in our eyes doesn't mean it didn't occur. By all accounts, at the time, it seemed that was the extent of what the conference was allowed to do. Anything more and Michigan probably would have sued and won.


As far as the Big12 and Sorsby...... maybe Yormark called Pettiti and said look, "we won't have the ability to punish TT............ but if the B10 and SEC choose to not play TT in any sport to force their hand, i would not be opposed to it."

 

[Erial_Lion]

Penn State Sandusky?
Michigan Sign Stealing?

Conferences, as far as I can remember, have never imposed additonal punishments beyond what occurs with the NCAA.

Both also included Big Ten penalties.

 

[Erial_Lion]

I remember the B10 imposing a punishment allowed by their bylaws on Michigan before the NCAA even had a ruling

Just because it was not harsh in our eyes doesn't mean it didn't occur. By all accounts, at the time, it seemed that was the extent of what the conference was allowed to do. Anything more and Michigan probably would have sued and won.

Michigan actually did sue with the Temporary Injunction attempt...it lost the morning of the PSU game, and Harbaugh watched the game from a hotel room in State College.

 

[bigmatt718]

Yormark needs to show some teeth and kick TT out of the Big 12 if they go through with this. TT can be Oil Notre Dame and play as an Indy while the Big 12 takes the FedEx money and grabs Memphis.

 

[RU#1fan]

If you wanna change my mind, you need to enlighten me then. Who are they punishing if a court allows him to retain eligibility. We didn’t complain when Elad was granted additional eligibility.

Unless this is used to push through strong reform…but then Kiffin and LSU would have to agree as well.

Ridiculous comparison

 

[MADHAT1]

The ruling sucks but the courts did decide and the gambler should be allowed to play as long as that ruling stands .
The Big 12 should file an emergency appeal of that ruling stating the case will be heard to late to stop the player from playing and that allowing that will harm the Conference's reputation of providing honest games because that player is a known gambler that gas a history of betting heavily and he hasn't been out of treatment long enouth to judge if his gambling addiction treatment has cured his habit or controlled it enough so people watching games TT plays cab rest assured they aren't being fixed to cover his bets .
Letting him play before he has had enough time to proved he won't succumb to a desire to gamble again woulde do financial ham to the conference and the Universities belonging to ot because of the chance the fans of the programs in the conference will decide not to attend games that atrn't sure gamblers won't contro the outcome and boosters of those programs might withheld donations until the player has stopped playing, or just stop permanently because he was allowed to play

The Big 12 has to allow TT ro play the conference games until they can get the court to stop Sorsby from playing , but every other conference can file for an injunction to stop any games scheduled against TT because of the potential revenue that would be lost because of how many of their fanbase would possibly refuse to support them because those fans feel college football games might be fixed because of a known gambler being allowed to play and now worried that every team might have someonr betting on games and playing according to if they bet to beay the spread or not.
If TT objects then demand they put up a large deposit of earnist money to ensure non of thir players will gamble and that money will only be returned after one year if no gambling accucations have come out. If any TT player in any sport is accused, that deposit is jeld in trust until a through investing is complete .

Some might say what I posted is not possible, I can agree with that because I;m just throwing out an idea without knowing if it can be done legaly or would just cause a bigger problem

 

[NickRU714]

Both also included Big Ten penalties.

Not the same. Not even close.

Big Ten punished Michigan BEFORE the NCAA in Npv 2023.
Much like Rutgers with Flood.
Self imposed punishments in hope to mitigate future NCAA punishments.
Happens all the time.

Then the NCAA issued official punishments in August 2025.
Big Ten DID NOT then say "NCAA punishments weren't enough. We are issuing harsher penalties."

Here, people want B12 to issue harsher penalties AFTER the NCAA.
Which, to my knowledge, hasn't happened.

 

[NickRU714]

Imagine Rutgers came out and said "We dont agree with the NCAA punishments. We will no longer be playing PSU or Michigan."

Or the B1G said "We dont agree with the lax punishment of Rutgers. We take academic integrity seriously. We will be issuing an additonal $5m fine to Rutgers over Coach Flood's actions."

Seton Hall says they won't play Rutgers because of Flood's actions.

 

[e5fdny]

Kenny Britt and Ray Rice!!!

I see what you did there.

 

[Knight Shift]

I see what you did there.

I'm not sure what I did there! Sometimes, I just post random junk that pops into my mind, like Beavis and ButtHead.
Thinking about it a little more, they are beyond their twilight years, but they are arguably two of the most successful NFL players Rutgers has put into the league? Pacheco may get there if he stays healthy, and hopefully Monangai will too.

But thinking about it some more, we could use the McCourty brothers on defense, and I am surely leaving some other former Rutgers players who had very successful NFL careers.

 

[e5fdny]

I'm not sure what I did there! Sometimes, I just post random junk that pops into my mind, like Beavis and ButtHead.
Thinking about it a little more, they are beyond their twilight years, but they are arguably two of the most successful NFL players Rutgers has put into the league? Pacheco may get there if he stays healthy, and hopefully Monangai will too.

But thinking about it some more, we could use the McCourty brothers on defense, and I am surely leaving some other former Rutgers players who had very successful NFL careers.

Well you picked two guys with something of a past. Keeping with the gist of the thread and the article I guess(ed).

It’s what popped into my head when I saw those two names mentioned instead of some others.

So maybe it was just ME who went there.

 

[kupuna133]

I could be wrong but I think this has less to do with Sorsby and his gambling, and petition to play. And more to do with Texas Tech being the little guy with the big spenders behind them. Texas tech is rubbing it in the big boys face being able to spend just as much or more than they can. They have also “dared” the NCAA to come after them with some of the deals they have created to attract talent. I think it’s funny if it was about gambling, legality, integrity etc… the schools and leagues that have come out and said they won’t play them have more glaring things to deal with in house than some qb making small bets as a frosh.

 

[mosito]

Not the same. Not even close.

Big Ten punished Michigan BEFORE the NCAA in Npv 2023.
Much like Rutgers with Flood.
Self imposed punishments in hope to mitigate future NCAA punishments.
Happens all the time.

Then the NCAA issued official punishments in August 2025.
Big Ten DID NOT then say "NCAA punishments weren't enough. We are issuing harsher penalties."

Here, people want B12 to issue harsher penalties AFTER the NCAA.
Which, to my knowledge, hasn't happened.

The NCAA punishment to the Student is
You Cannot Play - TT is saying FU to this

The NCAA Punishment to TT is not yet here.
TT has not played him yet.

Maybe there are examples of
A school getting caught using Ineligible players/cheating and then saying, we are going to continue using said player/cheating and we will use courts to allow that and you are forced to play me.

100% the opponents should of a school threatening to use an ineligible player at any cost should be, "OK we will not play you".
That is not additional punishment.... that is the school protecting themselves

Paying off a Judge....... or a Judge so out of the loop that he would allow Sorsby to play..... or a Judge who genuinely believes that Sorsby should play ------ does not condone him playing.



This isn't a he bet on Rutgers and Oregon St baseball. He be on his own football team. He made hundreds/thousands? of bets while being underage. He used family members and friends across state lines. He should be in Jail. Now do i think he should be in Jail...... no, but that is the situation he should be in......... not TT telling everyone EF-You, we will sue everyone and he is playing because i got a judge in Texas to allow it.

 

[NickRU714]

The NCAA punishment to the Student is
You Cannot Play - TT is saying FU to this

The NCAA Punishment to TT is not yet here.
TT has not played him yet.

Maybe there are examples of
A school getting caught using Ineligible players/cheating and then saying, we are going to continue using said player/cheating and we will use courts to allow that and you are forced to play me.

100% the opponents should of a school threatening to use an ineligible player at any cost should be, "OK we will not play you".
That is not additional punishment.... that is the school protecting themselves

Paying off a Judge....... or a Judge so out of the loop that he would allow Sorsby to play..... or a Judge who genuinely believes that Sorsby should play ------ does not condone him playing.



This isn't a he bet on Rutgers and Oregon St baseball. He be on his own football team. He made hundreds/thousands? of bets while being underage. He used family members and friends across state lines. He should be in Jail. Now do i think he should be in Jail...... no, but that is the situation he should be in......... not TT telling everyone EF-You, we will sue everyone and he is playing because i got a judge in Texas to allow it.

Wow. You are all over the place.

The current (pending appeal) NCAA punishment is 2 games of ineligibility.
Thats it.
Its not TT or Sorsby's fault the terrible NCAA structure allows for these dumb lawsuits that challenge their rule enforcement.

Big Ten not playing TT has zero to do with "protecting against a potential ineligible player".
How many B1G schools will play against a potential ineligible Sorsby?
Maybe check their schedule.

And what is the protection?
If NCAA wins their appeal and Sorsby is later ruled ineligible, TT would forfeit the games.

Want an example?
You should probably review the Jett Elad cases.

He was ruled ineligible.
He filed suit and got an injunction. Rutgers played him while it was appealed.
NCAA won appeal and Elad ruled ineligible in Nov before PSU. Elad appealed and got made eligible for PSU

Should the B1G school have canceled games? To protect themselves from Rutgers.

 

[NickRU714]

"Elad had to sue the NCAA this offseason in order to be eligible. He was awarded a preliminary injunction by Quraishi in April. The ruling blocked the NCAA from enforcing its five-year rule in regards to his lone season of junior college."

For anyone looking for another example of a player being ruled ineligible then seeking a legal injunction to be eligible.
For another school who said "EF-You" to the NCAA.

https://www.nj.com/rutgersfootball/2025/11/rutgers-wins-court-battle-to-keep-starter-eligible-for-penn-state-finale.html?outputType=amp

 

[NickRU714]

"Elad had to sue the NCAA this offseason in order to be eligible. He was awarded a preliminary injunction by Quraishi in April. The ruling blocked the NCAA from enforcing its five-year rule in regards to his lone season of junior college."

For anyone looking for another example of a player being ruled ineligible then seeking a legal injunction to be eligible.
For another school who said "EF-You" to the NCAA.

https://www.nj.com/rutgersfootball/2025/11/rutgers-wins-court-battle-to-keep-starter-eligible-for-penn-state-finale.html?outputType=amp

Additonal fun fact: the Judge who issued the original injunction to give Elad eligibility and then issued the temporary order to keep him eligible for the PSU game?

Rutgers Law graduate......

Zahid Quraishi - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[NickRU714]

I could be wrong but I think this has less to do with Sorsby and his gambling, and petition to play. And more to do with Texas Tech being the little guy with the big spenders behind them. Texas tech is rubbing it in the big boys face being able to spend just as much or more than they can. They have also “dared” the NCAA to come after them with some of the deals they have created to attract talent. I think it’s funny if it was about gambling, legality, integrity etc… the schools and leagues that have come out and said they won’t play them have more glaring things to deal with in house than some qb making small bets as a frosh.

Very interesting theory.

Do you remember all the "Rutgers shouldn't join the Big Ten and be associated with Penn State" threads and outcry?
The Big 12 considering a scheduling ban for PSU?
Big Ten having discussions on kicking PSU out of the conference?

Me neither.
I guess everyone found their integrity badges this week.

 

[kupuna133]

Very interesting theory.

Do you remember all the "Rutgers shouldn't join the Big Ten and be associated with Penn State" threads and outcry?
The Big 12 considering a scheduling ban for PSU?
Big Ten having discussions on kicking PSU out of the conference?

Me neither.
I guess everyone found their integrity badges this week.

Yep. All this is merely cover in my opinion. how many teams that have cried actually have tech in their schedule. UGA isn’t scheduling tech any time soon. Much less many B1G members.

 

[MADHAT1]

Imagine Rutgers came out and said "We dont agree with the NCAA punishments. We will no longer be playing PSU or Michigan."

Or the B1G said "We dont agree with the lax punishment of Rutgers. We take academic integrity seriously. We will be issuing an additonal $5m fine to Rutgers over Coach Flood's actions."

Seton Hall says they won't play Rutgers because of Flood's actions.

In conference games would be playerd/
OOC gamds can be scheduled by wjo you want to play and who you will avoid.
Buying out OCC gams has been going on for years.

Imagine Rutgers came out and said "We dont agree with the NCAA punishments. We will no longer be playing PSU or Michigan."

Or the B1G said "We dont agree with the lax punishment of Rutgers. We take academic integrity seriously. We will be issuing an additonal $5m fine to Rutgers over Coach Flood's actions."

Seton Hall says they won't play Rutgers because of Flood's actions.

In conference games , no can do, unless you leave conference and it becomes an OCC game
OCC games can be canceled of you are willing to pay the price
When it comes to the OCC games programs schedule those programs they wont to play and avoid scheduling those they don't want no part of.


a google search found this:
In June of 2024 the Ohio State Buckeyes were scheduled to pay the UConn Huskies for a game initially planned for October 18, 2025, in Columbus. The two schools mutually agreed to cancel the matchup, Ohio State paid UConn a $650,000 buyout to settle the contract.
Originally UConn was set to receive $1.95 mil for going to Columbus to play the Buckeyes

South Carolina officially agreed to pay North Carolina $1.0 million to void their future 2028-29 football series. The cancellation was triggered by both the SEC and ACC shifting to nine-game conference schedules, which limited non-conference slots. South Carolina was required to pay the fee by August 1, 2026

• iami (2017): Rutgers paid Miami a \(\$100,000\) termination fee to cancel a scheduled home-and-home series for the 2018 and 2019 seasons. Rutgers made this move to free up space on their schedule so they could instead play a four-game series against another former Big East rival, Boston College.
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• UCLA (2018): Rutgers withdrew from a two-game, home-and-home series against UCLA that had originally been scheduled for the 2020 and 2021 seasons. Because Rutgers declined UCLA's offer to flip the location of the games to keep the agreement intact, Rutgers had to pay a \(\$500,000\) termination fee

 

[MADHAT1]

Very interesting theory.

Do you remember all the "Rutgers shouldn't join the Big Ten and be associated with Penn State" threads and outcry?
The Big 12 considering a scheduling ban for PSU?
Big Ten having discussions on kicking PSU out of the conference?

Me neither.
I guess everyone found their integrity badges this week.

Very good point

 

[Knight Shift]

It was all performative

 

[-RUFAN4LIFE-]

Pot meet kettle. You alluded to there being more to the story…so share because otherwise your all knowing oz routine is tiresome.

That's because there's nothing more than blanket statements by that tard.

 

[Anon1754923206]

Again, right or wrong sorsby will be on the painful end of many targeting plays…someone or someones will go all vigilante on pretty boy.

 

[mosito]

Wow. You are all over the place.

The current (pending appeal) NCAA punishment is 2 games of ineligibility.
Thats it.
Its not TT or Sorsby's fault the terrible NCAA structure allows for these dumb lawsuits that challenge their rule enforcement.

Big Ten not playing TT has zero to do with "protecting against a potential ineligible player".
How many B1G schools will play against a potential ineligible Sorsby?
Maybe check their schedule.

And what is the protection?
If NCAA wins their appeal and Sorsby is later ruled ineligible, TT would forfeit the games.

Want an example?
You should probably review the Jett Elad cases.

He was ruled ineligible.
He filed suit and got an injunction. Rutgers played him while it was appealed.
NCAA won appeal and Elad ruled ineligible in Nov before PSU. Elad appealed and got made eligible for PSU

Should the B1G school have canceled games? To protect themselves from Rutgers.

I can agree to disagree.

Using the legal system to bypass a clearly known punishment for a Rule that even TT pushed for a year before is BS. And other conferences should find ways to reaffirm that even is it is just not scheduling future games.

Using the interpretation of amount of years of eligibility left as a counterargument is weak, but that is semantics.

Big12 should pursue every method in their arsenal. And since a supportive Texas judge is ok with it... The Kansas AG should get in and prevent Sorsby from playing in the state since he has admitted to betting on his own team. Likewise other AG in other states where TT is trying to game the system.

 

[Erial_Lion]

Again, right or wrong sorsby will be on the painful end of many targeting plays…someone or someones will go all vigilante on pretty boy.

I’ll take the under on 1.5. Guys aren’t getting ejected/suspended for taking things into their own hands.

 

[PSAL_Hoops]

can and do are entirely different.

PSU shouldn't even have a football program but often, the conferences relied on the NCAA to be bad guy but that doesn't mean they can't

This is a case where the NCAA is not being allowed to be the bad guy - the injunction cripples them from enforcing their own established code of ethics.

 

[NickRU714]

I can agree to disagree.

Using the legal system to bypass a clearly known punishment for a Rule that even TT pushed for a year before is BS. And other conferences should find ways to reaffirm that even is it is just not scheduling future games.

Using the interpretation of amount of years of eligibility left as a counterargument is weak, but that is semantics.

Big12 should pursue every method in their arsenal. And since a supportive Texas judge is ok with it... The Kansas AG should get in and prevent Sorsby from playing in the state since he has admitted to betting on his own team. Likewise other AG in other states where TT is trying to game the system.

I can agree to disagree.
The foundational premise is using the legal system to circumvent NCAA rules and decisions.
I agree - this is ridiculous. All these lawsuits need to stop.
From Texas Tech to Rutgers and Jett Elad.

However, this isn't just a Texas Tech thing.
As evidenced, Rutgers also used the legal system to circumvent NCAA rules.
As have many others.

Luckily for Rutgers, they also had a supportive judge (who graduated Rutgers Law).

The irony of wanting even more legal intervention isn't lost on me though.