2027 Recruiting Thread

bdgan

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Sure they matter. Point is that that 5* label guarantees a huge NIL deal, whether it's justified or not.
So does buying a high 4* QB & WR from the portal

QB Leavitt transferred to LSU with an NIL value of $4 million
WR Coleman transferred to Texas with an NIL value of $2.9 million
 
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LMTLION

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LOL

I thought about setting up the "countdown clock" until someone said:

"He wasn't actually any good"
"He was just looking for a bag of money"
or
"PSU felt they could do better and pulled the offer"

But you beat me to it.
I personally think it’s a loss even with him being lower rated on 247 and ESPN services. I said that in my message? And yes, the money bag dictates most of these “commitments.” FYI Gleason has wandering eyes too. But in terms of Robinson, both sites seem to be saying we parted ways with Robinson .
 

rigi19041

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If a 3* doesn't workout, it's easier to absorb that financial loss than if a 5* doesn't workout.

Also, if you have a couple of guys making 7 figures while the rest of the team is getting 5 and 6 figures, it will be more difficult to build quality depth, not to mention the division it creates in the lockeroom.


Which one is more likely to win the big game?

Are you here for cheer for smart financial moves or winning big games?

Your plan won't get the next lavar arringtons or kj carter.
 
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rigi19041

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All indications are that PSU pulled the offer after this weekend, but nobody knows what the heck happened this weekend. Robinson gave no indication in his tweets that he was not fully committed to PSU. It’s a shame because while he was a lower rated prospect, his ceiling is very high. It’s a mystery what happened this weekend.


Clear indication he was flipping. He had a cb to Virginia after he visited. He commented about tge great visit and it was obvious.
 
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Again, you’re stuck in 2015. The “model” you’re thinking of is obsolete today. Look at OSU’s and Alabama’s classes. They’re not all that far off from PSU’s, with one being rated a little higher and the other rated quite a bit lower. NIL is having a HUGE impact on recruiting.

Alabama finishes strong and usually blows past psu.

Osu starts ahead of psu and stays ahead.
 
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Just speculation on my part: maybe he came to PSU with a higher NIL offer from UVA and tried to get PSU to bid higher; PSU said no thanks?


I think he grew out of the position. He will be bigger than Rojas coming in.

He will be 6.3 210 when he starts school which makes him a milkshake away from 220.
 

Connorpozlee

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I personally think it’s a loss even with him being lower rated on 247 and ESPN services. I said that in my message? And yes, the money bag dictates most of these “commitments.” FYI Gleason has wandering eyes too. But in terms of Robinson, both sites seem to be saying we parted ways with Robinson .

No way Semajay
Whoooa wohoooa
No way Semenjay
Whoooa whooooa
No way Semenjay
Whoooa whoooa
Go be a Cavalier
 

DaytonRickster

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LOL

I thought about setting up the "countdown clock" until someone said:

"He wasn't actually any good"
"He was just looking for a bag of money"
or
"PSU felt they could do better and pulled the offer"

But you beat me to it.
Then maybe you can clue us in as to what transpired? My post was pure speculation as to it possibly being a money issue. I believe he is a strong prospect, so it's not lack of talent. Perhaps he looked at the current DB room and 2027 verbals and thought he would have a better opportunity for early PT @ UVA?
 
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LB99

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I personally think it’s a loss even with him being lower rated on 247 and ESPN services. I said that in my message? And yes, the money bag dictates most of these “commitments.” FYI Gleason has wandering eyes too. But in terms of Robinson, both sites seem to be saying we parted ways with Robinson .

More money for Sesay and Taylor!
 

LB99

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Sure I remember posters like you sending up the alarm bells, especially he was repeated called uncoverable at the opening 7 on 7 with Fields throwing him the ball. Some posters where even hoping Fields might flip back after talking about how much he love playing Shorter and Slade.

Im guessing you were concerned about Slade as well since he was too small to be an everydown back, at least you were saying that in 2018 because you knew he was going to wash out at PSU.

I dont care if its Smith or Shorter, IMO, no 5 star is worth that kid of money. Go spend the same amount and portal in 2 or 4 legit ready college starters and bring them in to fill holes in the lineup or provide depth that is needed to field a college championship type team.

Funny thing about OSU and WRs. Without NIL they could land three of the top six WRs in the country and that room was loaded. So many top prospects that you never noticed the top 50 kids that washed out. They are going to come back to the pack, because they cant afford to the many highly recruited kids in one class.

So many on here are hammering that Campbell at PSU isn't recruiting at a high enough level. What they are missing in this NIL world is the recruiting GAP between OSU and PSU is shrinking substantially. OSU isn't bringing in nearly as many absolute top rated recruits in cycle. The number is falling and it is falling dramatically. Neither is UGa and Bama those kids are getting spread around.
So, do you think an established portal player is the better option? Would that player be a better bargain? Highly unlikely.
 

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So, do you think an established portal player is the better option? Would that player be a better bargain? Highly unlikely.
Before draft order was slotted by MLB, college athletes generally brought bigger signing bonuses than high school players. Simply because drafted college players had demonstrated success at a higher level. I believe portal players (at least those in the top 5 in their respective positions will continue to command astronomical contracts.
 
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Before draft order was slotted by MLB, college athletes generally brought bigger signing bonuses than high school players. Simply because drafted college players had demonstrated success at a higher level. I believe portal players (at least those in the top 5 in their respective positions will continue to command astronomical contracts.
I agree. So, if we are saying we can’t afford high end HS recruits, then high end transfers are out the window as well.
 

Nits1989

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I agree. So, if we are saying we can’t afford high end HS recruits, then high end transfers are out the window as well.
It depends on how they budgeted their money. I think they spent a lot of money in the portal this year. This year might not be indicative of future budgets.
 

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It depends on how they budgeted their money. I think they spent a lot of money in the portal this year. This year might not be indicative of future budgets.
They certainly didn't spend on a 2026 recruiting class so there should have been funds available. In addition, how much should they need to spend to "lure" players from ISU where we are told that Coach Campbell had meager resources?
 

LMTLION

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Clear indication he was flipping. He had a cb to Virginia after he visited. He commented about tge great visit and it was obvious.
There is apparently more to the story that we may never find out, but it was 100% not related to nil dollars and beyond that nothing else beyond that is leaking on the sites. Perhaps someone else leaks it. Not the end of the world, we lose commits every year like everyone else does. It’s just a curiosity in the process. There are vague x posts like this.
 
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There is apparently more to the story that we may never find out, but it was 100% not related to nil dollars and beyond that nothing else beyond that is leaking on the sites. Perhaps someone else leaks it. Not the end of the world, we lose commits every year like everyone else does. It’s just a curiosity in the process. There are vague x posts like this.

Saw something on Facebook by Sean Fitz that it’s not NIL. PSU parted ways with him.
 

Nits1989

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They certainly didn't spend on a 2026 recruiting class so there should have been funds available. In addition, how much should they need to spend to "lure" players from ISU where we are told that Coach Campbell had meager resources?
Again, we don’t know how Campbell is budgeting his money.
 

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So, do you think an established portal player is the better option? Would that player be a better bargain? Highly unlikely.
I think an established portal player is almost always going to be a better bargain than a 5 star and a much better option. Rumor mill is we played Olesh upwards of a million dollars last year for what?

and you think that makes more sense than spending a million on a kid that has shown he can play college football. Really!!! Its apparent many of these 5 stars are getting upwards of 3 million dollars while the majority of major college starters are not getting that much.

Get strong kids that you feel have potential for a reasonable price. Watch them develop, when they do pay them more, when they dont you dont lose as much, and the savings of not paying for some HS hot shot, use it to get transfers that will play the day they step on campus.

Is your response going to be, but how can you get a top 5 or top 10 recruiting class doing that?
 

PSU89er

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I agree. So, if we are saying we can’t afford high end HS recruits, then high end transfers are out the window as well.
You dont need high end transfers. You need guys that supplement what you are putting on the field. Yes, that kid may be needed to start, but I dont think you are looking to bring in the kid that is going to be the AA starter. I agree with you PSU isn't paying for that. Right now, almost nobody is, but that might change. Short of a QB transfer that you know you need to start next year, you don't need to spend crazy money on portal players.

Look at the guys PSU got that were not ISU kids. Those are the kind of guys you need. We appeared weak on the Dline. We don't now, we actually have a lot of depth there, and I dont think PSU is going to get pushed around by anyone up front next year.
 

LB99

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I think an established portal player is almost always going to be a better bargain than a 5 star and a much better option. Rumor mill is we played Olesh upwards of a million dollars last year for what?

and you think that makes more sense than spending a million on a kid that has shown he can play college football. Really!!! Its apparent many of these 5 stars are getting upwards of 3 million dollars while the majority of major college starters are not getting that much.

Get strong kids that you feel have potential for a reasonable price. Watch them develop, when they do pay them more, when they dont you dont lose as much, and the savings of not paying for some HS hot shot, use it to get transfers that will play the day they step on campus.

Is your response going to be, but how can you get a top 5 or top 10 recruiting class doing that?
Why do you seem to think you can get an established player in the portal for less than a HS recruit? I never said pay a HS kid more than an established portal player. I agree with you on this. I’ll take that established portal player 9 times out of 10. However, I think you would have a hard time finding an established portal player that would be less if in high demand.
 
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You dont need high end transfers. You need guys that supplement what you are putting on the field. Yes, that kid may be needed to start, but I dont think you are looking to bring in the kid that is going to be the AA starter. I agree with you PSU isn't paying for that. Right now, almost nobody is, but that might change. Short of a QB transfer that you know you need to start next year, you don't need to spend crazy money on portal players.

Look at the guys PSU got that were not ISU kids. Those are the kind of guys you need. We appeared weak on the Dline. We don't now, we actually have a lot of depth there, and I dont think PSU is going to get pushed around by anyone up front next year.
I hope the kids they brought in are good, but at this point we have no idea how good they will be. It’s all projection. Just like recruiting. Big does not equal better. To be determined.
 

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You dont need high end transfers. You need guys that supplement what you are putting on the field. Yes, that kid may be needed to start, but I dont think you are looking to bring in the kid that is going to be the AA starter. I agree with you PSU isn't paying for that. Right now, almost nobody is, but that might change. Short of a QB transfer that you know you need to start next year, you don't need to spend crazy money on portal players.

Look at the guys PSU got that were not ISU kids. Those are the kind of guys you need. We appeared weak on the Dline. We don't now, we actually have a lot of depth there, and I dont think PSU is going to get pushed around by anyone up front next year.
I agree with you. I thought the approach was textbook in terms of building out a team from the transfer portal. There’s a reason why we are rated number four in the country for that cycle. Two other non-ISU acquisitions I was very impressed with were Riker, the presumed starting center now, and Peoples, who will figure prominently in the Rb rotation. If Franklin did not get canned, this 2026 team would be very weak. There was more depth returning from 2025 ISU than 2025 PSU. I am not convinced Franklin could have rebuilt the program from the portal, which he largely mismanaged during his tenure.
 

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Why do you seem to think you can get an established player in the portal for less than a HS recruit? I never said pay a HS kid more than an established portal player. I agree with you on this. I’ll take that established portal player 9 times out of 10. However, I think you would have a hard time finding an established portal player that would be less if in high demand.

Wouldnt a ONE year rental be cheaper than 5 years of the same player?
 
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LB99

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Are NIL deals year to year? Or are they guaranteed for as long as the player is at the school where the deal was originated? Or is it a mixed bag?
 

rigi19041

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I think an established portal player is almost always going to be a better bargain than a 5 star and a much better option. Rumor mill is we played Olesh upwards of a million dollars last year for what?

and you think that makes more sense than spending a million on a kid that has shown he can play college football. Really!!! Its apparent many of these 5 stars are getting upwards of 3 million dollars while the majority of major college starters are not getting that much.

Get strong kids that you feel have potential for a reasonable price. Watch them develop, when they do pay them more, when they dont you dont lose as much, and the savings of not paying for some HS hot shot, use it to get transfers that will play the day they step on campus.

Is your response going to be, but how can you get a top 5 or top 10 recruiting class doing that?

Rumors? So you really don't know what olesh was paid?

How about listing g the current roster salaries and we can track who is overpaid this season.
 

rigi19041

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Fair point. I get it. It seems rare than any player stays at the same place for five years these days though.

The point is a school can pay a player for one final year and avoid the development costs of the same player.

Psu could bring in a Borque in year 4 and outbid vtech for that final year. Vtech supposedly outbid psu during the developmental years.
Who would get the better value?


If a school is bringing in proven starters, shouldn't they also be able to trim the roster a little? In 2010 a school could have 18 OL on Scholly. In 2025 a school can sign 2 starters from the portal. Do they need as many players on scholly who are developing?
 

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Rumors? So you really don't know what olesh was paid?

How about listing g the current roster salaries and we can track who is overpaid this season.
That $1mill is straight from PSU donors and insiders on the premium boards. that is not rumor but common knowledge in PSU circles. The other ridiculous amounts are real too, like $500k to Liam Clifford. Franklin was fired for a variety of reasons starting with demanding a huge raise last summer but also because he wasted donor money on foolishness.
 
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LMTLION

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The point is a school can pay a player for one final year and avoid the development costs of the same player.

Psu could bring in a Borque in year 4 and outbid vtech for that final year. Vtech supposedly outbid psu during the developmental years.
Who would get the better value?


If a school is bringing in proven starters, shouldn't they also be able to trim the roster a little? In 2010 a school could have 18 OL on Scholly. In 2025 a school can sign 2 starters from the portal. Do they need as many players on scholly who are developing?
VT did not outbid PSU or Georgia for Bourque. We contacted Georgia and found out the agent was playing games. Both schools pulled out and BGJ outbid himself for Bourque. Bourque may end up being a great qb but the agent poisoned the process and his client was left with VT.
I agree with your point, though. There is something to be said for allowing other schools to pay developmental costs. I wonder if in the end the ACC, Big 12 and group of 6 schools are developmental schools for the P2. Campbell states he wants to build the team through recruiting but also knows we are hitting the portal hard again in January as the roster is still recovering from the coaching transition and a partially lost 2026 class from the coaching change.
 

rigi19041

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That $1mill is straight from PSU donors and insiders on the premium boards. that is not rumor but common knowledge in PSU circles. The other ridiculous amounts are real too, like $500k to Liam Clifford. Franklin was fired for a variety of reasons starting with demanding a huge raise last summer but also because he wasted donor money on foolishness.


List some salaries for next year's players and we can track them too.

What is manske making? Do you think he will play more QB snaps at qb than Clifford?
 
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LMTLION

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List some salaries for next year's players and we can track them too. What is manske making? Do you think he will play more sbpnaps at qb than Clifford?
I have no idea what Manske is making. That detail I’ve never seen. I only have seen the detail that the ISU guys came in at a discount and the PSU retentions were very costly. Campbell had enough sense to be upfront with everybody about the payroll situation so there’s no hard feelings in the locker room. Thankfully, the ISU players were just grateful and felt fortunate to come here. That’s the culture that Campbell builds.
Those salaries are never secret in the locker room . That’s also another factor that helped tear the previous PSU team apart. It started in 2024 when everybody found out that Carter was being paid a huge premium and allowed to get away with nonsense while much of the rest of the team was underpaid at that point. And the pay inequities continued in 2025 helping to completely tear the team apart. Terry thankfully helped get it back together.
Back to current, it is my opinion they’re preparing for the possibility of having to pay for a rental QB for 2027 as the young man’s health may still be a concern. Between Falzone, Evans, and Wood, it’s highly doubtful any of them would be ready to start at QB at such a young age.
 

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Why do you seem to think you can get an established player in the portal for less than a HS recruit?
Because I'm talking about the 5 star or the elite top 50 recruit, and yes I think you can get an established player in the portal at a much lesser cost than those kids with far less risk.
 

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Regarding the next portal, at minimum we will need the following at a starter level - 1 wr, 1-2 lb (hoping Tatsch is fully recovered from acl), 1 DT. We may need a starting qb and a qb depth piece. There will be other needs too I am sure. We are fortunately deep on the OL, TE, and cb. Both incoming RBs I believe can start day 1 while Martin will return as well.
 
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