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Brendan Sorsby has a gambling problem. Texas Tech may have a QB problem

Nuts McClanahan

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RealTucoSalamanca said:
If/ when the participants and officials are allowed to bet on prop bets and the outcome of games it is no longer a competitive sport it is WWE where the outcomes are predetermined.
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If a QB has a completion prop of 17 1/2, it's super easy to bet on the over and complete a lot of checkdowns early in the game to make sure you get past the number. There's no integrity in college football anymore. None. The Roman Republic had less greed and corruption.
 
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litespeedhuskerfan said:
There are crimes, then there are crimes. Setting your cruise at 4moh over is a crime because you're now speeding. Big whoop. Rolling down your window and pointing a gun at another driver is also a crime. Both are crimes, but common sense prevails and we know which one is really a crime and which one is a shoulder shrug.

...so programs rhat play each other who are guilty of setting their cruise at 4 over is one thing, what TT is doing is the other.

My guess is most people see the difference and that's why this is such a polarizing issue. It's just unfathomable up to now, that a kid who did what this kid did, can play football again in college.

I also think he tanked his pro career now. Cannot see an NFL team ever touching this kid. He basically ruined his football life forever.
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On Sorsby, the word is that he would have went in the 3rd round of the supplemental draft next month had they not found a judge to bribe (or a totally honest judge who is completely clueless in handling rule breakers). And if you have talent, especially QB talent, you will always get a chance.
 
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Nuts McClanahan said:
On Sorsby, the word is that he would have went in the 3rd round of the supplemental draft next month had they not found a judge to bribe (or a totally honest judge who is completely clueless in handling rule breakers). And if you have talent, especially QB talent, you will always get a chance.
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I guess anything is possible, but i'd give it a zero chance in the probability department. Even if he was considered a #1 overall pick kind of takent, I don't think the NFL would touch him. We'll see.
 
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SuperBigFan69 said:
100% agree.

But in his case, the courts are (sort of) ruled in his favor, for now. I don't think he will ever end up playing in college of the NFL. But I would love it if does just to see the meltdowns.
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I think that Sorsby will play this year. The worst part of this is the precedent it sets. Tech and Sorsby both sued the NCAA despite the fact that he admitted to breaking the rules repeatedly and there's evidence all over the place. In the realm of competitive sports, this is serious stuff. But Tech and Sorsby's top notch lawyers knew that while their lawsuit was without merit and certain to lose, all they needed to do was get one judge to issue an injunction. Then they drop their case once the season is over.
 
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mgbreeze said:
Seems like Cody Campbell has picked his horse and he's not going to back down. He's threatening people on social media? Doesn't sound like he's getting ready to cut Sorsby loose, and let's be honest - Cody Campbell IS Texas Tech.
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Play or dont play. Win or lose. This whole thing is going to end bad for TT. They are pariahs.
 
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SuperBigFan69 said:
Well that is totally fine. But what about teams that have guys that have committed crimes (actual crimes)? Do you play them?

What about teams that steal signals, do you play them?

What about teams that clearly hold on every play, do you play them?

What about teams with recruiting violations, do you play them?

I am fine with it as long as they are doing it for those other reasons too.

NONE of us would have been okay with teams not playing NU after LP came back on the team and that was way worse than making some wagers.

#Integrity
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Stealing signs is a you problem, don't make the signs obvious, also no longer a real problem with headsets.

The player doing the holding isn't the issue, it is the ref who doesn't call it that is the problem. Now if the refs can also bet on games and still work because not working would cause serious emotional damage. That problem becomes a bigger deal.

If there was a rule that said if you have a recruiting violation you are banned from coaching, then yes you would cancel those games as well.

Playing Phillips because he beat a woman, did not affect the competitive balance of the games like a player gambling on a game would. You are comparing worse in a moral way, yes beating a woman is worse than gambling. But from a competitive balance situation, gambling is much worse.
 
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king_kong__ said:
This was always going to happen

and it should

That horsefaced b*tch (and any who agree with her) will never understand - betting on your own team to win just makes the competition that much more fierce

it’s exactly what we all want in our gladiators
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When he took the under on his own teams performance, thats a gladiatorial attitude?
 
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orclover11 said:
Your shortsightedness on this isn't surprising coming from you, but this isn't about gambling. Gambling is just the transgression that is being overtly ignored by a biased judge who happens to either be a Texas Tech fan, alum, or is being pressured by the community. How can you not understand the destructive nature of having a court in Lubbick decide on eligibility for a player in Lubbick? Lets say that a player decides they want to leave a team mid-season, and go to another team and plat for them. What keeps them from doing that? The NCAA will say they are ineligible, the player leaves the big 10(so they say they are ineligible), but the play moves to Alabama(SEC says they are eligible). Player sues to be eligible because of "mental health concerns", local judge in Tuscaloosa takes up the case and rules an injunction..allowing player to play while court system works it out. Straight mid-season free agency.
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Also, let’s say someone gets numerous DUIs in Texas…possibly even kills people in a drunk driving accident…then claims it’s due to drinking problem (duh)...would that person not get penalized?
 
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SuperBigFan69 said:
Well that is totally fine. But what about teams that have guys that have committed crimes (actual crimes)? Do you play them?

What about teams that steal signals, do you play them?

What about teams that clearly hold on every play, do you play them?

What about teams with recruiting violations, do you play them?

I am fine with it as long as they are doing it for those other reasons too.

NONE of us would have been okay with teams not playing NU after LP came back on the team and that was way worse than making some wagers.

#Integrity
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If a school were caught red handed committing recruiting violations and or cheating in any other mechanism and were allowed to continue on with seemingly no penalty, yes - I would advocate to not play them. But that situation doesnt play out (well...we never see it play out anyway. We know damn well its there but...).

The more egregious elephant in the room for me in all this is I'd wager with confidence that a large % of locker rooms have at least 1 guy suiting up who is betting on games in some way. So all of these comments from ADs might come back to bite them in the ***...
 
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I miss when the court system used to say “per us or state law, their is nothing wrong with what this person did but the NCAA has the right to disallow elgiabilty from their own laws”
 
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RealTucoSalamanca said:
Stealing signs is a you problem, don't make the signs obvious, also no longer a real problem with headsets.

The player doing the holding isn't the issue, it is the ref who doesn't call it that is the problem. Now if the refs can also bet on games and still work because not working would cause serious emotional damage. That problem becomes a bigger deal.

If there was a rule that said if you have a recruiting violation you are banned from coaching, then yes you would cancel those games as well.

Playing Phillips because he beat a woman, did not affect the competitive balance of the games like a player gambling on a game would. You are comparing worse in a moral way, yes beating a woman is worse than gambling. But from a competitive balance situation, gambling is much worse.
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Wait, the player doing the holding is breaking the rules of the game??? You can't do it.

The rule book literally says that you can't hold.
 
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BleedRed89 said:
If a school were caught red handed committing recruiting violations and or cheating in any other mechanism and were allowed to continue on with seemingly no penalty, yes - I would advocate to not play them. But that situation doesnt play out (well...we never see it play out anyway. We know damn well its there but...).

The more egregious elephant in the room for me in all this is I'd wager with confidence that a large % of locker rooms have at least 1 guy suiting up who is betting on games in some way. So all of these comments from ADs might come back to bite them in the ***...
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This is SUCH a good post and it is totally true.
 
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Hawkmanic23 said:
Also, let’s say someone gets numerous DUIs in Texas…possibly even kills people in a drunk driving accident…then claims it’s due to drinking problem (duh)...would that person not get penalized?
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The better AND every other team better refuse to schedule the team that play plays for.

I know you are an iowa AND Husker fan...but what if all the teams in the Big Ten refused to play iowa because of all those allegations of them being a racist program. That shows integrity to stand against racism. Right?
 
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There is a bright side to this. Cody and Tech so desperately want an invite to the B1G or SEC. This will never happen now. That's a good thing and probably makes all this worth it.
 
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