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El_Jefe

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Tom McAndrew said:
I'd like to think that I'd be proactive, and get between the wrestlers.

In truth, I have no idea how I would have handled this. Face mushes can be really tough to anticipate. I've have matches where both wrestlers were behaving quite normally, and there was absolutely no reason to expect a mush. And yet, at the end of the match (or end of whatever the situation), an unexpected face mush takes place. Face mushes usually take me by surprise, so my reaction to them is usually kind of slow. Plus, if they take place at the end of the match, the ref is usually taking a quick look at the score (if it's a close match) to make sure they know who won, and also signaling the stoppage of the match, and then awarding points if they were being held (and possibly checking potentially PD situations, or in or out when on the boundary; lots of other possibilities). In short, there are several things the ref is, or might be, addressing at the end of the match that do make it tough to handle situations like in the video.

I know if you showed this sequence at a refs chapter meeting to see how they'd react, a lot of refs would want to see the entire match, so that they'd have a better sense of what the temperament of the wrestlers was before that time. The video that Mineo posted really doesn't provide that info.
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This clip adds some context and considerable footage after the punch. The match was in SV, and that was the winning score.

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The ref was a little slow to react after the face mush, but to be fair, he was also on a knee and behind the action, and he was starting to move in that direction -- just the puncher was much quicker. Ref did react quickly after the punch, to get the puncher off the mat and then to restrain the other team. That very easily could've been a benches-clearing brawl, had the ref been slower toward the other team.
 
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Tom McAndrew said:
Askren mentioned in a recent show that somebody offered him quite a trove of film/videos of old wrestling matches. He took up the offer, and will be periodically posting them. I'm unlikely to link all of them, but will post those that I find interesting.

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I hope he posts all the Scott and Josh Moore videos. Terry was a huge fan of the twins.
 
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Cali_Nittany1 said:
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PSU was asked to dance...

 
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Tom McAndrew

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today's BaschAMania covered a variety of subjects, so I'm placing this here:



0:00 - Start of Show
01:55 - U23 World Team Criteria
17:35 - Ben Askren Competing at RAF
25:05 - RAF Georgia
27:55 - New Class of 2027 Big Board
31:30 - The Top Ten
46:30 - The 5 Biggest Stock Up
55:50 - Content Coming Up
57:00 - Instagram Talk & Show Goes Off The Rails
01:06:55 - RAF & Busy Summer
01:13:10 - Macch/Hidlay in VA
 
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Wrestleknownothing said:
It was worse than that. Prior to wrestling he had a 99% chance. He single handedly brought the odds down a percent.

Of course, the only other wrestler of the era to perform that feat also just happened to be a #1 seed in 2020 for Iowa, so......
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I didn't see enough mention of Brady Berge in the 2020 Hypo Nattie talk. When he went down with that horrific head injury in October, PSU's chances over Iowa in the football dome dwindled.

But when Cassar tore out his shoulder against big Bradley in December, those chances took a mortal hit.
 
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Corby2 said:
And it won't be heard again for at least 9 months so he's gonna play this year now before it can even go back to court
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The trial for the original injunction lawsuit is set for February. The NCAA has already filed for an accelerated appeal to the Court of Appeals for the Seventh District of Texas. Notably all four judges in that court are Texas Tech law school grads.
 
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Corby2

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Wrestleknownothing said:
The trial for the original injunction lawsuit is set for February. The NCAA has already filed for an accelerated appeal to the Court of Appeals for the Seventh District of Texas. Notably all four judges in that court are Texas Tech law school grads.
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Yep and the 7th is 6-9 months wait for accelerated cases
 
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Wrestleknownothing

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Corby2 said:


This was posted yesterday and I saw it.
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Got it. So the question becomes around his point 4. "if the Amarillo Court of Appeals orders expedited briefings and decides the appeal “on the papers” without oral argument. But even such an expedited appeal is likely to run well into the college football season."
 
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PSU Mike

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He’s gonna flame out this year and they’ll become the laughingstock of CFB.
 
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