🚨🚨🚨IRAN WAR IS BACK ON!!!🚨🚨🚨

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Lol, its time
Lol is right.


President Donald Trump has declared Iran "totally defeated" multiple times throughout the spring 2026 war, publicly claiming total military victory on at least seven occasions between March and April. However, experts and the Council on Foreign Relationsmaintain that Iran has not suffered total defeat, as strategic goals like regime change remain unmet and Iran maintains significant regional leverage. [1, 2, 3, 4]
Timeline of Trump's "Defeat" Claims:
  • March 2026: Trump repeatedly posted on Truth Social claiming that the U.S. had obliterated Iran's military capability, declaring them "totally defeated" and "completely decimated" after early strikes on their navy and air force. [1]
  • April 7, 2026: Upon declaring a ceasefire for negotiations, Trump announced that the U.S. had "already met and exceeded all military objectives". His Defense Secretary, Pete Hegseth, similarly described the outcome as a "total and complete victory".
 

Dadar

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You can only run at that level for so long before something breaks or you must slow down for maintenance,

You mentioned a key point, strong export demand. There is only so much left to squeeze out, especially when it comes to refining. The product will go to whoever pays the most for it. Gulf capacity is down. Ukraine is hammering Russian facilities. An accident at a major US facility, a major hurricane, or God forbid a terrorist attack on a US facility/ies... That hopefully is a real fear that is keeping Kash Patel and Markwayne Mullin up at night.
Is it a good time to buy slb, bkr, pump etc....hal
 

BlIIlken2

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Cracking Up Lol GIF by MOODMAN
 

WDSMHawk

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I hear this take a lot and I just don’t buy it, at least as far as my definition of “crushed” is concerned. How many seats in the Senate do you expect to flip to Team Blue? The House?

Do I think Democrats will do well in November? Of course. This Trump/MAGA sh*t show is just going to continue to get worse. But let’s not pretend voters in this country will magically just get smarter. And as long as half the country continues to exist inside their Faux News bubble/echo chamber, not much is going to change in terms of representation in government.

In short, Democrats could flip the House blue. The Senate is still a long shot. My prediction is Ds will flip the House by a small majority and Rs will maintain control of the Senate by a razor thin margin. Prove me wrong.

Midterms will be intersting;

A lot of people vote with their pocket book, and for all of Trump's antics in his first term he had the benefit of a relatively good economy (thanks to the turnaround started under Obama) for the majority of his four years.

If this war continues and impact on the world economy is as bad as some experts are projecting I could see a good chunk of those non-cult voters switching sides or at least now showing up for Republicans in November.

However, Democrats have two factors working against them though

1) Unfortunately Republicans are proactive so they pushed to gut the V.R.A and gerrymander as many states as they could to limit the midterm damages.

2) The top of the Democrat leadership in Congress and at the DNC is absolutely useless and out of touch with what a majority of their base and voters in general are wanting.
 

lucas80

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Midterms will be intersting;

A lot of people vote with their pocket book, and for all of Trump's antics in his first term he had the benefit of a relatively good economy (thanks to the turnaround started under Obama) for the majority of his four years.

If this war continues and impact on the world economy is as bad as some experts are projecting I could see a good chunk of those non-cult voters switching sides or at least now showing up for Republicans in November.

However, Democrats have two factors working against them though

1) Unfortunately Republicans are proactive so they pushed to gut the V.R.A and gerrymander as many states as they could to limit the midterm damages.

2) The top of the Democrat leadership in Congress and at the DNC is absolutely useless and out of touch with what a majority of their base and voters in general are wanting.
The GOP suffered massive midterm losses in 2018 with a good economy. If things don't perk up for the average person by Labor Day things will be worse for the GOP, gerrymandering or not. Trump fatigue had a lot to do with the swing in 2018. The non-stop drama and incompetence weighed the GOP down. We've got all of that on steroids this time around, along with masked goons shooting citizens in the back, a sleepy president, an unpopular war, and a bad economy.
Why independents and moderate Republicans who voted for Trump, and who thought Trump would be different a second time around still puzzles me.
 

Huey Grey 2

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Good article in Bloomberg today on why crude has not yet hit $200 yet.

US has increased supply also
Plus

"One of the biggest surprises for the oil market has been China, the world’s largest importer. It slashed inbound shipments by almost 40% in May compared to last year’s average, according to Vortexa Ltd. The reduction is enough to offset anywhere between a third and a fifth of the barrels lost to the war, depending on the estimates used."
If China slashes importing oil they will also slash exporting everything they make. Which means a lot more inflation.
 

Huey Grey 2

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Midterms will be a wipeout for Republicans. Gerrymandering was built on 2024 models. Under normal conditions that works to Republican advantage. Under a cratered economy with mass inflation that will wind up hurting more than if Republicans did nothing.
 

Anon1750875978

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Midterms will be intersting;

A lot of people vote with their pocket book, and for all of Trump's antics in his first term he had the benefit of a relatively good economy (thanks to the turnaround started under Obama) for the majority of his four years.

If this war continues and impact on the world economy is as bad as some experts are projecting I could see a good chunk of those non-cult voters switching sides or at least now showing up for Republicans in November.

However, Democrats have two factors working against them though

1) Unfortunately Republicans are proactive so they pushed to gut the V.R.A and gerrymander as many states as they could to limit the midterm damages.

2) The top of the Democrat leadership in Congress and at the DNC is absolutely useless and out of touch with what a majority of their base and voters in general are wanting.
If your assessment that people vote with their checkbook is accurate, the two things you say about the Dems are irrelevant.

There's no way in hell inflation, fuel prices, and the farm economy improve significantly by November.
Trump's prediction that prices drop dramatically if/when his war ends is wishful thinking.
Repubbers are going to get demolished in November.
 
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TigerGrowls

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I hear this take a lot and I just don’t buy it, at least as far as my definition of “crushed” is concerned. How many seats in the Senate do you expect to flip to Team Blue? The House?

Do I think Democrats will do well in November? Of course. This Trump/MAGA sh*t show is just going to continue to get worse. But let’s not pretend voters in this country will magically just get smarter. And as long as half the country continues to exist inside their Faux News bubble/echo chamber, not much is going to change in terms of representation in government.

In short, Democrats could flip the House blue. The Senate is still a long shot. My prediction is Ds will flip the House by a small majority and Rs will maintain control of the Senate by a razor thin margin. Prove me wrong.
You will be proven wrong in November when it counts.
 

WDSMHawk

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If your assessment that people vote with their checkbook is accurate, the two things you say about the Dems are irrelevant.

There's no way in hell inflation, fuel prices, and the farm economy improve significantly by November.
Trump's prediction that prices drop dramatically if/when his war ends is wishful thinking.
Repubbers are going to get demolished in November.

Fair enough.

I think the general malaise towards Democrats could lower their ceiling in the Midterms from blue wave to just a blue win.
 

Anon1750875978

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Fair enough.

I think the general malaise towards Democrats could lower their ceiling in the Midterms from blue wave to just a blue win.
You're underestimating just how pissed off people are.

Dems are MOTIVATED and the majority of Indees strongly disapprove of the Republican led Congress.

Blue Tsunami, baby.
 
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LafayetteBear

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I hear this take a lot and I just don’t buy it, at least as far as my definition of “crushed” is concerned. How many seats in the Senate do you expect to flip to Team Blue? The House?

Do I think Democrats will do well in November? Of course. This Trump/MAGA sh*t show is just going to continue to get worse. But let’s not pretend voters in this country will magically just get smarter. And as long as half the country continues to exist inside their Faux News bubble/echo chamber, not much is going to change in terms of representation in government.

In short, Democrats could flip the House blue. The Senate is still a long shot. My prediction is Ds will flip the House by a small majority and Rs will maintain control of the Senate by a razor thin margin. Prove me wrong.
I think Demos will recapture control of the Senate by a seat or two. Lots of Republicans Senate seats are up, with not nearly so many Democratic Senate seats. I believe 20 out of 33 Senate seats up for election this November are currently Republican seats. Demos just need to flip four Senate seats.

The House is gonna go Demo in a big way, methinks. Thanks, Cheeto.
 

RagnarLothbrok

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I think Demos will recapture control of the Senate by a seat or two. Lots of Republicans Senate seats are up, with not nearly so many Democratic Senate seats. I believe 20 out of 33 Senate seats up for election this November are currently Republican seats. Demos just need to flip four Senate seats.

The House is gonna go Demo in a big way, methinks. Thanks, Cheeto.
Yes, there are indeed more Republican seats up for reelection this round than Democratic seats. I am aware. The problem is how many of those seats are actually in play for Democrats, because many of them aren’t. Here is a list of states that have a Senate seat up for grabs currently held by a Republican:

Oklahoma, West Virginia, Louisiana, Maine, Texas, Arkansas, Montana, Idaho, Iowa, Wyoming, South Carolina, Tennessee, Mississippi, Kansas, Nebraska, Kentucky, South Dakota, Alaska, North Carolina, and Alabama

Of those 20 seats currently held by Republicans, maybe, and I stress maybe, 5 are or potentially could be in play for Democrats, with 2-3 of them being long shots IMO. So, even if Democrats have a good night, and they probably will, their odds of flipping the Senate are still slim to none.

The current Senate balance is 53 Rs to 45 Ds (2 Independents are essentially Ds). So, you could say it’s currently 53-47 in favor of Rs. The Democrats would have to have an incredibly fantastic night by winning at least 4/5 seats that by my calculations, again, could be in play for them. That would give Ds a 51-49 advantage (assuming no D loses their seat to a Republican, which most likely won’t happen unless Ossoff were to get upset).

The most likely scenario, right now at least, is Democrats picking up a net of 2 seats to make the balance 51-49 (2 of those 49 being Independents) in favor of Rs. A 50/50 split outcome would be IMO an exceptionally good night for Ds, although you would still have Rs in control with VP Vance being the tiebreaker. An extreme “Blue Wave” of Ds picking up 4 seats would be a dream scenario for Team Blue, which would probably mean something like Iowa going blue to replace Joni Ernst. Possible? Sure. Likely? I doubt it.

In short, I don’t see it. Perhaps you can point out to me where I am going wrong, but IMO 51-49 Rs is probably the most realistic, best-case scenario for Ds. Of course, there could be another blue moon (pun maybe intended) like when Alabama briefly went blue because Roy Moore was outed as a sexual predator and pedophile. (And, hey, lol, with MAGA being MAGA, all bets are off.) It’s just not likely, though. But, if the economy really hits the sh*ts by November and the national average for gas is something like $6.79, then yeah, it’s possible more Rs could face a lot of pissed off voters. We’ll see.
 
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Tom Paris

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I hear this take a lot and I just don’t buy it, at least as far as my definition of “crushed” is concerned. How many seats in the Senate do you expect to flip to Team Blue? The House?

Do I think Democrats will do well in November? Of course. This Trump/MAGA sh*t show is just going to continue to get worse. But let’s not pretend voters in this country will magically just get smarter. And as long as half the country continues to exist inside their Faux News bubble/echo chamber, not much is going to change in terms of representation in government.

In short, Democrats could flip the House blue. The Senate is still a long shot. My prediction is Ds will flip the House by a small majority and Rs will maintain control of the Senate by a razor thin margin. Prove me wrong.
My frustration is that even though they have fewer supporters, MAGA always seems to have the levers of politics working in their favor. Republicans can change political maps when ordered. Virginia sends it to the people and a Republican court blocks it. On and on with this crap.
 

Tom Paris

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The GOP suffered massive midterm losses in 2018 with a good economy. If things don't perk up for the average person by Labor Day things will be worse for the GOP, gerrymandering or not. Trump fatigue had a lot to do with the swing in 2018. The non-stop drama and incompetence weighed the GOP down. We've got all of that on steroids this time around, along with masked goons shooting citizens in the back, a sleepy president, an unpopular war, and a bad economy.
Why independents and moderate Republicans who voted for Trump, and who thought Trump would be different a second time around still puzzles me.
There are several voting blocks - farmers, veterans, union workers, for example, that consistently vote Republican which is absolutely baffling. Republicans do nothing to help these groups. Basically never.
 

Tom Paris

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Yes, there are indeed more Republican seats up for reelection this round than Democratic seats. I am aware. The problem is how many of those seats are actually in play for Democrats, because many of them aren’t. Here is a list of states that have a Senate seat up for grabs currently held by a Republican:

Oklahoma, West Virginia, Louisiana, Maine, Texas, Arkansas, Montana, Idaho, Iowa, Wyoming, South Carolina, Tennessee, Mississippi, Kansas, Nebraska, Kentucky, South Dakota, Alaska, North Carolina, and Alabama

Of those 20 seats currently held by Republicans, maybe, and I stress maybe, 5 are or potentially could be in play for Democrats, with 2-3 of them being long shots IMO. So, even if Democrats have a good night, and they probably will, their odds of flipping the Senate are still slim to none.

The current Senate balance is 53 Rs to 45 Ds (2 Independents are essentially Ds). So, you could say it’s currently 53-47 in favor of Rs. The Democrats would have to have an incredibly fantastic night by winning at least 4/5 seats that by my calculations, again, could be in play for them. That would give Ds a 51-49 advantage (assuming no D loses their seat to a Republican, which most likely won’t happen unless Ossoff were to get upset).

The most likely scenario, right now at least, is Democrats picking up a net of 2 seats to make the balance 51-49 (2 of those 49 being Independents) in favor of Rs. A 50/50 split outcome would be IMO an exceptionally good night for Ds, although you would still have Rs in control with VP Vance being the tiebreaker. An extreme “Blue Wave” of Ds picking up 4 seats would be a dream scenario for Team Blue, which would probably mean something like Iowa going blue to replace Joni Ernst. Possible? Sure. Likely? I doubt it.

In short, I don’t see it. Perhaps you can point out to me where I am going wrong, but IMO 51-49 Rs is probably the most realistic, best-case scenario for Ds. Of course, there could be another blue moon (pun maybe intended) like when Alabama briefly went blue because Roy Moore was outed as a sexual predator and pedophile. (And, hey, lol, with MAGA being MAGA, all bets are off.) It’s just not likely, though. But, if the economy really hits the sh*ts by November and the national average for gas is something like $6.79, then yeah, it’s possible more Rs could face a lot of pissed off voters. We’ll see.
Pretty much this. Deeply Red states are not voting Democrat. Very little shot.
 

baltimorened

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The GOP suffered massive midterm losses in 2018 with a good economy. If things don't perk up for the average person by Labor Day things will be worse for the GOP, gerrymandering or not. Trump fatigue had a lot to do with the swing in 2018. The non-stop drama and incompetence weighed the GOP down. We've got all of that on steroids this time around, along with masked goons shooting citizens in the back, a sleepy president, an unpopular war, and a bad economy.
Why independents and moderate Republicans who voted for Trump, and who thought Trump would be different a second time around still puzzles me.
you know the comments these days about voting for Platner in Maine..."hold your nose and vote for him"...A lot of trump voters felt exactly that way in the last election. Sure, the Republican base would vote for him, but independents just didn't want Kamala Harris as President. IMO, a better democrat candidate beats trump in 2024
 

Rifler

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There are several voting blocks - farmers, veterans, union workers, for example, that consistently vote Republican which is absolutely baffling. Republicans do nothing to help these groups. Basically never.

Has it ever crossed your mind that not all voting groups look towards the government for help?