And I’m only talking about recruiting. Not results. Pope is losing with loser talent. Kevin young is at least bringing in talent and giving hope. I think he personally is better than poor recruiting and coaching but that doesn’t say much for him. Pope is a loser and we need to fire him immediately.
Pope is really bad but he can’t be THIS bad. JMI
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Facts is, mark pope has never had success as a head coach or as a recruiter. NEVER. 2024-25 was not a successful season!
It may have changed but in the early days of NIL either Morgan & Morgan or an auto dealer used an IU quarteback in the Louisville tv market. While red color was evident there was nothing related to IU or Hoosiers.
The contract was changed significantly for NIL in August, 2025. But continue on with your ignorant condescension.
The post your replied to is the reason that it is so difficult to believe so much of what is written on this board. Posters ignore the facts and make up crap to suit their bias. We see it EVERY SINGLE day!
I know. Prior to 2025, JMI had the same contract with BYU, and prior to 2020, JMI had the same contract with Utah Valley. Every single place, Pope goes, JMI follows to **** pope over. It’s not right. **** JMI. They would give Calipari a billion dollars every year!! It’s not fair. Quit ******* blaming injuries, JMI, locker room incidents, fatigue, his daughter returning home from a mission trip so he couldn’t focus. This program is ****** because if pope and nothing else. ******** mark, take some ******* accountability. Pope ******* sucks. And we are in worse shape than Indiana University because of it.
Calipari never recruited under JMIs new deal where they control NIL. That didn’t go into effect till Pope was here. Cal did have to recruit without a collective because of Mitch. . Calipari did take all he had recruited here and That was his first class without having a guy drafted first round. The guys he was getting here were guys Duke , Kansas and others didn’t want. His first class at Arkansas is going to produce 2 first rounders.
You look at Caliparis record, Stoops record both nose dived with NIL coming in.
Six straight years of failure since NIL was adopted, but it’s because Pope is weird. IMO absolutely not.
UCLA fired Lavin for doing better than that. But it's a non issue. Pope will never make another S16 anywhere.
That’s cherry picking stats to fit your agenda. Here is what you left out.
Yes, Cal was still getting 5* guys. He put so many in the NBA he was gonna recruit OK even with Mitch fighting NIL. He got the 5* that Duke, Kansas and other elites passed on. Why, because they stunk. Zero BB skills just bigger than the HS guys they played against.
Those 2 top players you named were Reed and Rob. Two 4* hits. Both were expected to be multi year players. But outplayed their rank while Edward’s hit the Gleague and Wagner started his 4 year college Career. Both 5* massive busts. Since NIL took effect. Cal didn’t have one single player that starts on an NBA team.
He took our entire recruiting class to Arkansas and had his first year ever without having a first rounder.
His first recruiting class at Arkansas will produce 2 first rounders with the National freshman of the year.
Calipari is getting elite player again at Arkansas with their NIL. He was getting left overs here with ours.
Lavin got 7 seasons at UCLA. He made the Elite 8 in year one never to get that far again. He was knocked out in the first round his third season. He then went to 3 straight sweet 16's before going 10-19 and missing the tournament his final season. So he did not get fired for doing better than Pope. He got fired for a truly horrible season.
Why are people dragging up old threads after a career 64% winning percentage guy landed his first big fish in an 11 year career?
I'm thrilled for the momentum that Pope and his staff are riding, but he has a ton to prove. The resurrection of the dead threads is bizarre.
Why are people so afraid of what they said?
Some people never learn this thread did not age well no doubt . Take some deep breaths relax "THINK" before you speak . Words have ramifications and in this case the poster has weeped the whirl wind 
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Who's afraid? Pope absolutely sucked at recruiting up until a week ago.
Loved that he got Milan and Hampton but you're 100% right what has he done to that point he has already coached over a decade.
What if you make up and bunch of stuff because you have no idea what you’re talking about? I never seen a fanbase so obsessed with making up lies about their own program. Are you really a UK fan?
Diallo Wilkins ndiaye Mcbride morton getting Moreno back and kepnang so you're saying they suck or am I reading this wrong
You are clearly the latest JMI plant account. JMI should never have been allowed to have any type of oversight or any say whatsoever on NIL. NONE. Lost out on several top 10 recruits thanks to you guys. Got them to the table, they looked at your contract and said no thanks. Multiple times. If all the sudden UK starts with these top recruits then the most likely fix was JMI restructuring the restrictive language in the contract that ran the other recruits away. All JMI did was blame Pope, but if pope starts landing big time recruits, that really doesn't make sense.I'm pretty sure he is still the same person he was 8 months ago. So stop bringing up old threads to try to defend your pos company after landing 1 5 star recruit . It was event going to happen no matter what. This is UK.
Is that what you’re hearing? I’m hearing you, like the rest of these clueless frauds you can’t back up a word you say. I’m hearing you make vague accusations that you got from other clueless frauds on this message board. I’m hearing you all made up a dozen different allegations to answer “how does JMI affect basketball but not football”, but couldn’t give any actual reasons or specifics for any of them. The way I heard it is the agenda matters to you and not facts, this is sheep behavior.
You don’t have a basic understanding of how anything works so you make up BS. You the think guys are recruited for months, then they “get to the table” and see an offer. You’re utterly clueless, NIL deals are woven into the whole process from the start to finish. Coaches pitch pitch NIL money and potential opportunities even before a player narrows their choices. It’s a major factor during the whole process. Players, angents and families are openly considering NIL packages alongside the usual recruiting pitch about playing time, development, tradition, and atmosphere. NIL isn’t some last minute thing that’s brought to the table, it’s a key factor from the first phone call to signing day. Everyone with common sense knows this, you brainwashed agenda driven frauds will never get it.
BTW, I grew up begging my parents to watch tape delayed games when we were on probation. I grew up listening to Cawood and Ralph Hacker. I grew up keeping scores of UK games in a notebook. My favorite non championship UK game was UK against Wake Forrest in the NCAA Tournament when Dick Stockton said this is a withering display of basketball talent on both ends after Mashburns 5th 3 and layup after a steal in the first 10 minutes. I’ve been a UK football season ticket holder my whole adult life. JMI didn’t send me clown, I’m a real UK fan sick of clowns like you making up lies and disparaging UK.
Blah blah blah, it's just the same stuff you kept repeating over and over again for the last 8 months. Can't wait to get. New ad who will expose his corrupt you and the old ad are. No one here believes anything you say. Soon you'll start calling me names when get angry because you can't win. jMI is the worst thing to ever happen to UK basketball. Your only agenda is to protect your corrupt company and make as much money as you can. If only you were half as smart as you think you are...show proof. But you guys none. Never have.
The same common sense stuff that brainwashed simpletons like you will never understand. Will Stein exposed you frauds and you had to change to, well football is different, or minimize the level of recruits he is getting. You just keep making your “I’m hearing” posts full of claims that you’re too clueless to back up.
Remember when you said:
“The deal signed last year put more restrictions on the recruit… the biggest being that the recruit basically has to sign away their NIL rights to JMI for an upfront sum and can’t do anything with anyone not associated with JMI without JMI approval, which they won’t get, and can’t use the UK logo/brand without JMI approval, which they won’t give. A recruit would be stupid to sign that.”
That was completely false.
You claimed athletes at UK have to sign away their NIL rights for an upfront payment. They absolutely do not, and they cannot legally or contractually be forced to sign away their NIL rights.
You also claimed athletes can’t do deals with anyone outside of UK or JMI and need JMI approval. That’s false as well. UK athletes can absolutely do third-party NIL deals with entities that are not affiliated with UK or JMI, and they do not need JMI approval to do so.
You also claimed athletes can’t use UK logos or branding. That’s not some unique UK/JMI restriction, it’s basic trademark law. No school in the country simply allows athletes or third parties to use its logos and trademarks without permission. Schools are required to protect their intellectual property.
You have no understanding of how anything works. You and the other sheep avoid discussing specifics because the facts expose how wrong you’ve been from the beginning.
The funniest part is that you seem to think a recruitment lasts for months and then, only at the very end, everyone suddenly sits down at the table and talks NIL. NIL is a significant part of the recruiting process from the start. Recruits, families, schools, agents, and collectives are discussing opportunities throughout the process, not just at the finish line.
The facts have consistently proven your claims wrong yet you continue to lie.
*I know you’re not reading all that, brainwashed frauds don’t need to read.
Yep, define the JMI guy who claimed to the president of the company. Exact same story, treatment of other posters and claiming ignorance of anything that contradicts you.
Yup, deflecting because you lied and can’t back up your lies. I love it when UK hating trash get exposed.
Look in the mirror. Your are the one deflecting. JMI is the worst thing to ever happen to UK sports. Prove it isn't. The contract restrictions ran several high level bb recruits. This came from them and their agents. You get angry when people a call you out on it because you know you can't prove them wrong. So you resort to name-calling and telling people they aren't fans and lack intelligence. Such a huge child. JMI SUCKS. Keep defending them Mr president, but provide some proof instead regurgitating the same things you have already said a thousand times. Show me I am wrong....angry yet? Mad. Asue you can't prove me wrong yet? Really shows a lack of intelligence, lack of fandom ...see how that works? You can't cause you still think you're the same person in the room. Clue....you're not even close. What joke...lol
The fans love Pope, I love Pope and I’m a fan, the BBN loves Popes love of the BBN, and the fans. The Internet is al lies for simple minded people. Everything else is all BS.
What contract restrictions? The ones you lied about? Are you talking about your having to sign your NIL rights away lie or you you can’t do outside deals at UK lie? You lie so much I’m not sure which lie about restrictions at UK you’re talking about. You keep saying ignorant nonsense like prove JMI isn’t the worst thing to happen to UK when no amount of evidence could do that. Prove you’re not an uneducated brainwashed moron who habitually makes up lies that casts UK in a bad light.
The guy on Reddit posted the actual part of the contract that proves you’re lying and the brainwashed clowns like you still made excuses.
The Parties acknowledge that participation by student-athletes in such NIL services shall be voluntary and on an opt-in basis. For the avoidance of doubt, nothing in this Modification is intended to limit University’s ability to perform compliance, eligibility, and related regulatory oversight functions with respect to NIL activity, or to limit student-athletes’ ability to engage in NIL activities independently with other parties; provided, however, that during the Term, University shall not designate, authorize, or appoint any other third party to perform NIL Services or otherwise authorize another entity to conduct NIL revenue-generating activities as an official NIL provider or sublicensee.
UK would also be violating state NIL law if they did the things you losers keep lying about. Maybe you should contact the state’s Attorney General with your lies.
Prove it. I didn't lie about anything. Look at what the recruits and agents posted. You already know and keep saying everyone else is lying..so sad. Your company sucks, with leadership like you, I can understand why. You have nothing to prove me wrong or you right so give it up. No one is. Buying your lying BS. Lol.... triggered. You used a reddit post by someone who wasn't involved saying it's an actual contract but ignore actual statements from real players and agents. You're so mad cause you work for JMI and keep lying about it and calling me names cause that's all you got
See the actual words in the contract don’t matter to you, you just make up more lies. No recruit or agent has said anything about JMI liar, you’re referring to a KSR article with Kansas fan Jacob Polacheck full of all the lies that you adopted and repeat claiming to talk to anonymous agents. You can’t find any actual quote from a player or agent talking about JMI, outside of Malachi Moreno’s, and it was all positive. Go show the actual statements full of players and agents statements. You can’t and neither can any of the others liars on this board because every single one of you are brainwashed frauds. There are hundreds of you on this board who believe this, combined not a single of of you can post a link of an actual player or agents posting anything about JMI. I’m so mad because we have an army of pathetic liars who tell the world that athletes that come to UK have to sign away their NIL rights, can’t do outside NIL deals, have to NIL deals with UK partners, need approval from JMI, and numerous other lies. You and the rest of the lying trash like you are a cancer to UK.
Let me show you how easy it is liar.
When you finish looking up statements from players and agents that you can’t find because they don’t exist, put the state law in your google machine and see where all of your made up lies aren’t permitted under the states NIL law. Googled “KRS 164.6943” and tell me what it says liar.
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Since you lying weirdos love ChatGPT so much, I posted the language and asked where it’s from.
That language appears to come from a modification to the University of Kentucky–JMI Sports agreement regarding NIL services. The exact paragraph has been publicly circulated from documents obtained through a Kentucky Open Records (FOIA) request and discussed in UK athletics circles.
The key provisions in that clause are:
- Participation in JMI NIL services is “voluntary and on an opt-in basis.”
- Nothing in the modification is intended to limit student-athletes’ ability to engage in NIL activities independently with other parties.
- UK retains its compliance and eligibility oversight functions.
- During the contract term, UK cannot designate another company as an official NIL provider or sublicensee competing with JMI.
In plain English, that language says:
- Athletes are not required to participate in JMI’s NIL program.
- Athletes can still pursue NIL opportunities with third parties independently.
- JMI has exclusivity as UK’s official NIL services provider, but that exclusivity does not prevent athletes from doing their own NIL deals.
That is why people who claim the contract requires athletes to sign away all NIL rights or prohibits outside NIL deals have a difficult time reconciling those claims with the actual contract language quoted above. Based on this provision, the contract expressly states participation is voluntary and does not limit independent NIL activities.
If you’d like, I can also break down the difference between:
- JMI’s exclusive rights as UK’s official NIL provider,
- an athlete’s personal NIL rights,
- and UK’s trademark/licensing rights (logos, uniforms, marks),
because those are often conflated in online debates.
Key words: up until a week ago. Missing on 14 straight top 20 recruits = sucked.
Yes. Pope is turning the corner, but our recruiting, primarily on the high school level, absolutely sucked before we landed Hampton.
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Sure bud. Whatever you want to believe. Are still president or sis you get demoted for doing such a horrible job?
That is not the contract you put before athletes to sign. That is part of the agreement with the university. Come on man, try harder. Almost forgot, JMI sucks.