OT: Mets 2026 Season Thread

Doctor Worm

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On the rehab front - Alvarez caught six innings for Syracuse last night and went 2 for 3 with 2 doubles and an RBI. Threw out a runner trying to steal. Polanco DH'd and went 0 for 3 with a walk.

Senga is starting tonight and is scheduled to throw about 85 pitches. If all goes well he will likely be activated next week.
 

Knight Shift

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Re the first tweet that you forwarded... Nothing says "Unbiased Mets Fan" like the use of phrases like "absolute circus, unserious franchise".

Unserious? I mean, seriously? Does anyone out there really think that Cohen, Stearns, and Mendoza are not serious about winning? Call them incompetent if you like, but don't call them unserious.
Is anyone unbiased these days? Very rare for people to be unbiased. Posts on X like the ones I posted (Unbiased Mets fan is active, I think this may be the first post I shared from this account) are what happens when franchise and favorite players are dealt and the ones that remain and/or are brought in are pooping the bed. People get angry and make irrational claims/posts on social media. Vientos has to get it together, and quickly.
 

LeapinLou

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Every time you get a little excited about this team, they quickly disappoint. On the plus side, I own two Soto jerseys and he's holding up his end of the bargain.
 

Doctor Worm

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Every time you get a little excited about this team, they quickly disappoint. On the plus side, I own two Soto jerseys and he's holding up his end of the bargain.
If you were holding Bichette jersey futures, you had a good day. Mets win 7-1. Bichette went 4 for 4 plus a sac fly, total 3 RBI.

Joey Gerber pitched the ninth. How he got from Syracuse to Seattle in time to do so, I cannot say.
 

yesrutgers01

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Every time you get a little excited about this team, they quickly disappoint. On the plus side, I own two Soto jerseys and he's holding up his end of the bargain.
Soto- it is so weird with the media and market- the dude has been proving himself year after year. and having another just great season. And I see people calling him selfish. It is just weird - Banks wasnt selfish when the Cubs sucked, Carlton wasn't selfish when the Phils sucked. Mays and Aaron have how many titles won between them.

This is just a horribly built team.

The good things- I do love Ewing and Benge in the outfield but most teams would have the same young kids up with their energy and hitting .300
But- these kids are breathing life and fun

Peralta went six. looked solid but over 100 in what is still a short stint.

T
 
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Doctor Worm

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Kind of a meh rehab stint for Kodai Senga today. 5 innings, 91 pitches, 3 runs, 6 hits, 2 walks, 2 HBP, 2 WP, 5 K. Topped out at 96 on the gun which is fine, but obviously command is an issue.

Polanco played five innings at 1B, went 0 for 2. As planned, Alvarez did not play, after having played 6 innings yesterday.
 
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Soto- it is so weird with the media and market- the dude has been proving himself year after year. and having another just great season. And I see people calling him selfish. It is just weird - Banks wasnt selfish when the Cubs sucked, Carlton wasn't selfish when the Phils sucked. Mays and Aaron have how many titles won between them.

This is just a horribly built team.

The good things- I do love Ewing and Benge in the outfield but most teams would have the same young kids up with their energy and hitting .300
But- these kids are breathing life and fun

Peralta went six. looked solid but over 100 in what is still a short stint.

T
History has shown that the NY media can create a narrative about a player, and it takes on a life of its own. If the media feels you're not receptive to them, you'll pay the price with your rep.
 
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Doctor Worm

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On this off day, I offer my latest revisit to Mets history. Today we’ll go back 20 years to 2006. (If you are interested in my 10 year lookback to 2016, see my post of May 29, 11:01 AM.)

I have two lingering images of the 2006 season. They both come from the same game - the last one.

There’s this. YAY!



And there’s this. BOO!



2006 was one of only two seasons, the other being 1988, where I look back and say that we really shoulda won it all, because we had the best team. Woulda, shoulda, coulda.

First, some background. After the 2000 World Series year and the drama of September 2001, the Mets went into one of their many cyclical hibernations. Then after three consecutive losing seasons, the Wilpons had had enough. At the end of the 2004 season, they hired Omar Minaya as their new GM. Flush with Madoff cash, the Wilpons authorized Minaya to spend it. Which he did, enthusiastically. (Dare I say Minaya-cally?) He brought in a five tool superstar in Carlos Beltran, and a rotation ace in Pedro Martinez. The reward was a winning season in 2005. But Minaya didn’t stop there. In the 2005 offseason, he brought in a slugger in Carlos Delgado, a closer in Billy Wagner, and a catcher in Paul Lo Duca.

Which brings us to the 2006 team. Damn, that team could HIT! They had a core four of the two Carloses (Beltran and Delgado), plus their homegrown young studs David Wright and Jose Reyes. Those guys put up some serious numbers:

Beltran - 41/116/.275, .982 OPS
Wright - 26/116/.311, .912 OPS
Delgado - 38/114/.265, .909 OPS
Reyes - 19/81/.300, .841 OPS, 64 SB

But wait there’s more. Lo Duca hit .318 and slammed a lot of helmets. Veteran 2B Jose Valentin contributed 18 HR. Even fourth outfielder Endy Chavez, whom you’ve already met, hit .306 that year. The team’s overall OPS was .780. With the pitchers removed, it was .803. Compare that to the .652 (at this writing) of the current Mets team.

The starting pitching was, shall we say, experienced. It was led by two 40 year olds, Tom Glavine and Orlando (El Duque) Hernandez. They didn’t throw hard, but they knew how to pitch. The rotation also included 35 year old Steve Trachsel, aka The Human Rain Delay. Martinez, at age 34, brought the starpower, but he had begun to decline. The rotation was augmented by two young trade acquisitions, John Maine and Oliver Perez (more about him later.)

The bullpen was solid, led by Wagner on the back end with 40 saves. He was ably set up by Chad Bradford, Aaron Heilman, Pedro Feliciano, and long man Darren Oliver. Duaner Sanchez was a key cog until he was hit by a drunk cab driver in Miami and was out for the season. Too bad, they could have used him on that fateful night in October.

This collection of talent produced one of the most dominant, drama-free seasons in Met history. They went into first place on Day 3 and never looked back. On June 22, they led the NL East by 10 games. They never relinquished that double digit lead. They shattered the Braves dominance, ending their streak of 14 consecutive division championships. Their 97-65 record was the best in the NL.

The dominance continued in the playoffs, as they swept the Dodgers in the NLDS. They then Mets.got lucky in the NLCS, drawing the upstart Cardinals who had won only 83 games, 14 less than the Mets.

This was the year. Until it wasn’t.

The NLCS went the full seven games. Manager Willie Randolph raised some eyebrows when he named Oliver Perez to start game 7, despite the fact that Perez had gone 3-13 with a 6.55 ERA during the season (split between Pirates and Mets). When asked about his selection of Perez, Randolph answered simply “Because I like him”.

The game was a nailbiter. It was 1-1 in the 6th when Scott Rolen hit a ball for two runs, which Chavez turned into two outs. It stayed 1-1 until the 9th. Yadier F’n Molina took Heilman deep, and it was 3-1. In the bottom of the inning, the Mets loaded the bases with two out. Adam F’n Wainwright caught Beltran looking at a nasty 0-2 curveball. It was all over but the grieving.

The pain of final day elimination continued for the next two years, but you’ll have to look those up yourself.

Up next in my retrospective is a 30 year lookback to 1996, IMO one of the most interesting teams in Met history. Not good, but interesting. Maybe I’ll get to that on the next off day.

Thanks for reading!
 

Zak57

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Loved that 2006 team. Probably my favorite in my era between them and 99. I know we made the WS in 00 and 15 but I just liked those teams more. They really should have won it in 06.

That accident with Duaner Sanchez. What crappy luck we have.

I was surprised Carlos Delgado never received some more HoF juice. What a bat he was.
 

Zak57

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SD series coming up tomorrow a little important.

Would be nice to take 2 of 3 from them. Now is the time to pounce since they've lost 4 in a row and 2-8 last 10. Mets are still only 6 GB in WC race with the the top 3 teams including SD all tied. Hopefully Polanco back and hits, we could use the bat. Alvarez close behind and then soon Lindor. This thing isn't over.
 

LeapinLou

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In and of itself, dropping 2 of 3 in Seattle is no big deal. But this team has a big hole to climb out of. They need to not only win a few series, they need to sweep a few. We really need this roster to return to full health soon.
 

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For what it's worth, I find these type of tweets from this Mike Mayer guy, who is really just another fan, to be pointless. Just highlighting guys who had a good game does nothing for the fan who is interested in how players are developing in the minors. Tweeting only good games is meaningless. Now, I've seen guys who do that but who list the season stats after the one-game states. That's better.
 

Zak57

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For what it's worth, I find these type of tweets from this Mike Mayer guy, who is really just another fan, to be pointless. Just highlighting guys who had a good game does nothing for the fan who is interested in how players are developing in the minors. Tweeting only good games is meaningless. Now, I've seen guys who do that but who list the season stats after the one-game states. That's better.
I do miss my own daily updates where I did just that lol. When I get some time soon I'll try and do a recap of where the system is at right now, stats, risers/fallers, etc.
 

Doctor Worm

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Rehab update: Alvarez caught seven innings tonight. Went 0 for 4 but threw out a baserunner.

Polanco did not play. Whether he is currently in Syracuse, San Diego, or somewhere in between, I cannot say.

Not rehab but, Tobias Myers pitched 1.1 perfect innings in relief with 1 K. There had been speculation that the Mets would stretch him out, but it doesn't look that way.
 
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A little non Met's rant...

Ohtani - While he is obviously a great hitter/runner/pitcher. When people like to call him the GOAT...Here is something to consider

Late in a close game that he was not pitching and had the game off on the bench- Dave Roberts could not use him to pinch it because it would have meant he would have to put him in the field. That in itself is just insulting. I remember years ago when Rusty had nothing left but being a great pinch hitter- we were forced into the same type of situation- we did hit him and had to put him in the field. Based on if it was a righty hitter or a lefty, the manager had to keep moving him from RF to LF hoping no one would hit the ball at him.

It has always led me to ask - if Ohtani had to play the field 140 games each year- would he be as good of a hitter and pitcher as he is today?
 

Doctor Worm

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A little non Met's rant...

Ohtani - While he is obviously a great hitter/runner/pitcher. When people like to call him the GOAT...Here is something to consider

Late in a close game that he was not pitching and had the game off on the bench- Dave Roberts could not use him to pinch it because it would have meant he would have to put him in the field. That in itself is just insulting. I remember years ago when Rusty had nothing left but being a great pinch hitter- we were forced into the same type of situation- we did hit him and had to put him in the field. Based on if it was a righty hitter or a lefty, the manager had to keep moving him from RF to LF hoping no one would hit the ball at him.

It has always led me to ask - if Ohtani had to play the field 140 games each year- would he be as good of a hitter and pitcher as he is today?
Answer to your question is no. Which would mean that the chasm between Ohtani and every other player in the game would be narrowed a little.
 

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On this off day, I offer my latest revisit to Mets history. Today we’ll go back 20 years to 2006. (If you are interested in my 10 year lookback to 2016, see my post of May 29, 11:01 AM.)

I have two lingering images of the 2006 season. They both come from the same game - the last one.

There’s this. YAY!



And there’s this. BOO!



2006 was one of only two seasons, the other being 1988, where I look back and say that we really shoulda won it all, because we had the best team. Woulda, shoulda, coulda.

First, some background. After the 2000 World Series year and the drama of September 2001, the Mets went into one of their many cyclical hibernations. Then after three consecutive losing seasons, the Wilpons had had enough. At the end of the 2004 season, they hired Omar Minaya as their new GM. Flush with Madoff cash, the Wilpons authorized Minaya to spend it. Which he did, enthusiastically. (Dare I say Minaya-cally?) He brought in a five tool superstar in Carlos Beltran, and a rotation ace in Pedro Martinez. The reward was a winning season in 2005. But Minaya didn’t stop there. In the 2005 offseason, he brought in a slugger in Carlos Delgado, a closer in Billy Wagner, and a catcher in Paul Lo Duca.

Which brings us to the 2006 team. Damn, that team could HIT! They had a core four of the two Carloses (Beltran and Delgado), plus their homegrown young studs David Wright and Jose Reyes. Those guys put up some serious numbers:

Beltran - 41/116/.275, .982 OPS
Wright - 26/116/.311, .912 OPS
Delgado - 38/114/.265, .909 OPS
Reyes - 19/81/.300, .841 OPS, 64 SB

But wait there’s more. Lo Duca hit .318 and slammed a lot of helmets. Veteran 2B Jose Valentin contributed 18 HR. Even fourth outfielder Endy Chavez, whom you’ve already met, hit .306 that year. The team’s overall OPS was .780. With the pitchers removed, it was .803. Compare that to the .652 (at this writing) of the current Mets team.

The starting pitching was, shall we say, experienced. It was led by two 40 year olds, Tom Glavine and Orlando (El Duque) Hernandez. They didn’t throw hard, but they knew how to pitch. The rotation also included 35 year old Steve Trachsel, aka The Human Rain Delay. Martinez, at age 34, brought the starpower, but he had begun to decline. The rotation was augmented by two young trade acquisitions, John Maine and Oliver Perez (more about him later.)

The bullpen was solid, led by Wagner on the back end with 40 saves. He was ably set up by Chad Bradford, Aaron Heilman, Pedro Feliciano, and long man Darren Oliver. Duaner Sanchez was a key cog until he was hit by a drunk cab driver in Miami and was out for the season. Too bad, they could have used him on that fateful night in October.

This collection of talent produced one of the most dominant, drama-free seasons in Met history. They went into first place on Day 3 and never looked back. On June 22, they led the NL East by 10 games. They never relinquished that double digit lead. They shattered the Braves dominance, ending their streak of 14 consecutive division championships. Their 97-65 record was the best in the NL.

The dominance continued in the playoffs, as they swept the Dodgers in the NLDS. They then Mets.got lucky in the NLCS, drawing the upstart Cardinals who had won only 83 games, 14 less than the Mets.

This was the year. Until it wasn’t.

The NLCS went the full seven games. Manager Willie Randolph raised some eyebrows when he named Oliver Perez to start game 7, despite the fact that Perez had gone 3-13 with a 6.55 ERA during the season (split between Pirates and Mets). When asked about his selection of Perez, Randolph answered simply “Because I like him”.

The game was a nailbiter. It was 1-1 in the 6th when Scott Rolen hit a ball for two runs, which Chavez turned into two outs. It stayed 1-1 until the 9th. Yadier F’n Molina took Heilman deep, and it was 3-1. In the bottom of the inning, the Mets loaded the bases with two out. Adam F’n Wainwright caught Beltran looking at a nasty 0-2 curveball. It was all over but the grieving.

The pain of final day elimination continued for the next two years, but you’ll have to look those up yourself.

Up next in my retrospective is a 30 year lookback to 1996, IMO one of the most interesting teams in Met history. Not good, but interesting. Maybe I’ll get to that on the next off day.

Thanks for reading!

I was at the game.

Sat in the upper deck and the upper deck shook like an earthquake when Chavez made the catch.

Loss still haunts me.

You can hear a pin drop when Beltran looked at the 3rd strike

Everyone including myself stood in silence and shocked

Killer of that team was losing Duaner Sanchez.
 
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Zak57

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Rehab update: Alvarez caught seven innings tonight. Went 0 for 4 but threw out a baserunner.

Polanco did not play. Whether he is currently in Syracuse, San Diego, or somewhere in between, I cannot say.

Not rehab but, Tobias Myers pitched 1.1 perfect innings in relief with 1 K. There had been speculation that the Mets would stretch him out, but it doesn't look that way.
Here's our answer on Polanco.