Says the youngster that doesn't even have the sense to respect his elders. I keep sparing you. People have told me to just go on and report you. If I did, you will just get a new handle and do the same unintelligent stuff. Yes, I have checked your profile and know that you just got on here in 2020. You are probably some kid in a basement calling people names. Get a job.
The American Public Has Gotten the Message on College Degrees
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Respect his elders? Lmao.
Respect is earned, retard. And you haven't begun to do that.
But go ahead and report. Play the victim. You are an expert at it.
Or you can keep "sparing me". Lol. THAT'S been going so well for you. Just remember, when you post something, it's "proof". But that is reserved just for you.
Guess you "don't have time". Lol. It's cliche at this point.
You should just start with that next time, retard, and save yourself the embarrassment.
I will never have time again as it applies to you. Your profile revealed what I needed to know regarding your behavior. No, I don't have time for that. ...and you can talk about victimhood all you want, you are fragantly disrespecting the rules of the message board and daring someone to report you on it. Further, I admit it. I have veered down that path myself in response to you, but I am not doing this with you anymore. So, it's your choice as to what it's going to be.
Well, retard, you can start by not replying to me and making an arse out of yourself.
And my profile revealed what? Thats funny. A name and a join date. Oh wait, it must be number of messages that told you all you need to know! Lol
I will continue to talk about victimhood, as long as you keep playing victim.
Now, disappear again. You "dont have time". Until the next time you do, and want to play victim to me again.
Hey, i had a great idea. Since you're too freaking stupid to figure out the quote function, would you like me to teach you how to use the ignore function?
Then you could do that totally transparent thing where you are replying to someone else, but really answering my posts. That always fools everybody. Perfect victim behavior really.
Nobody's playing victim boo. Keep rambling on and on. about nothing. People that have jobs don't have time to go on and on with you.. NBA Finals start tonight. Therefore, I really don't have time. If you can't find a job, there are plenty of Republican campaigns you can volunteer for. Do something besides going on about the problems of life on a free message board.Well, retard, you can start by not replying to me and making an arse out of yourself.
And my profile revealed what? Thats funny. A name and a join date. Oh wait, it must be number of messages that told you all you need to know! Lol
I will continue to talk about victimhood, as long as you keep playing victim.
Now, disappear again. You "dont have time". Until the next time you do, and want to play victim to me again.
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Lmao, even when i call you out on it, you just can't help it.
I think i lost count of how many times you've "left" the thread. Hopefully this time you mean it.
So, till the next time you want to play victim.
Im serious about the offer on the ignore feature. I know you're too stupid to figure out the quote function, and now it appears you don't know the board can be accessed from a phone, if you think people with jobs cant post. I'm seriously offering to help you out of pity. Life must be pretty hard when youre this stupid.
Lol
I'm new here and was actually looking up info regarding the baseball search but just ran across this interesting discussion.
My son just graduated USC, and I thought I could add a bit. He also already has a job lined up and is starting next week.
He reminded me college was more than just classes. Now, my son doesn't drink so he wasn't into any party scene, but I can say I thought my son grew up a lot while at USC.
College was fun- and enjoyable for him. He was involved in a few clubs which is where he met his best friends. I would have hated for my son to miss out on it. My son only has a few high school friends he still keeps in contact with but has a number of really good friends from college that will very likely be lifelong friends.
He does say he knew a good bit about the politics of some of his fellow classmates. He said that was obvious but not really the teachers. His theory is that many students will follow their classmates or friends- and adopt their political views- but not so much a professor, There are exceptions of course.
Someone mentioned that college is normally the time young people do find their own voice and their own beliefs about political matters and other issues, and I think that rings true for me, and for my son. Sometimes that's very different than their parents and that scares some parents and they want to blame someone.
My son just graduated USC, and I thought I could add a bit. He also already has a job lined up and is starting next week.
He reminded me college was more than just classes. Now, my son doesn't drink so he wasn't into any party scene, but I can say I thought my son grew up a lot while at USC.
College was fun- and enjoyable for him. He was involved in a few clubs which is where he met his best friends. I would have hated for my son to miss out on it. My son only has a few high school friends he still keeps in contact with but has a number of really good friends from college that will very likely be lifelong friends.
He does say he knew a good bit about the politics of some of his fellow classmates. He said that was obvious but not really the teachers. His theory is that many students will follow their classmates or friends- and adopt their political views- but not so much a professor, There are exceptions of course.
Someone mentioned that college is normally the time young people do find their own voice and their own beliefs about political matters and other issues, and I think that rings true for me, and for my son. Sometimes that's very different than their parents and that scares some parents and they want to blame someone.
Good post. I would ask one thing though, if you dont mind. What sort of degree was your son getting?
I firmly believe the politics enters some degrees more strongly than others. STEM degrees and such having much less avenues for introducing that sort of thing.
I think this is pretty much the major divide in who sees the most politics in their college years.
It also seems, from my personal experience, that party affiliation has an impact on whether one sees "indoctrination". One side seems to note topics being pushed, the other thinks little of it. I wonder if its because one doesnt see "indoctrination" if one agrees with the ideas being pushed?
What were their majors?
Everybody indoctrinates. IMO, the difference is will those who go in a different direction still be respected by those who tried to indoctrinate?
Does it really matter?
Acceptable for some but not for others?
The ones I remember were Education, Nursing, Business and Psych.
I dont think kts a matter of it being okay for some majors. More that some majors have more opportunity fir it.
....and could you just stay on topic please? Most people are on here having a good conversation about their educational experiences, but you are on here just continuing with the name-calling. Actually, you have gotten so bad that you have desensitized me to it. You are just like a little gnat that needs to be swatted away. ...and the notion that someone like you could run anyone away is hilarious. If someone is running anyone away, why would they come right back when they want to. Some of us have jobs. This is just random entertainment for me between appointments and court appearances. This is not a place for me to just hang out. That is your thing. Even 18 has apparently gotten busy and doesn't just hang out here anymore. You are the only one.Lmao, even when i call you out on it, you just can't help it.
I think i lost count of how many times you've "left" the thread. Hopefully this time you mean it.
So, till the next time you want to play victim.
I'm seriously offering to help you out of pity. Life must be pretty hard when youre this stupid.
Lol
Edit: I actually see you have calmed down and doing a pretty good job of staying on topic today. Keep up the good work and don't get distracted by little 'ole me.
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You know retard, for someone who whines and cries so much about me, you sure cant go long without trying to engage me again.
You quote me, make an arse out of yourself, then run away. Just to repeat after a day or two.
Pathetic. But wildly entertaining!
Thought about this, and agree. Every instructor has inherent biases/preferences. It would take effort to mask those completely from students. Some can do it, imo.
I dont necessarily consider that all to be indoctrination though. Imo, when that word comes in, its the authority figures actively trying to alter opinions. And not by opening minds to new ideas, but by rewarding/punishing based on which opinion is valued.
Yes, it does matter. The disccusion on here is that this does not happen in STEM courses, but it does elsewhere. Yes, it does matter.
If you know the major, then state so.
All religious leaders - regardless of religion - do it to some extent.
That is an interesting tangent.
I take my children to mass, and its not optional. But I've never considered it to be indoctrination. They are free to fall away as adults, but nit before then.
Perhaps the missing element there is the negative connotation I attach to the word. If I teach my child that 2+2=4, and I do not accept another answer, is that indoctrination, or simply teaching?
I would view religion in that context. But I can see where someone would point to the "not optional" part.
When I discuss indoctrination in schools, my first thought is them not teaching facts, but enforcing opinions on students.
So someones understanding of the words used can change their meaning, making the entire discussion meaningless! Way to go!
If you don't think the Catholic church is doing its very best to indoctrinate your children, you are either very naive or very ignorant of how the church operates.That is an interesting tangent.
I take my children to mass, and its not optional. But I've never considered it to be indoctrination. They are free to fall away as adults, but nit before then.
Perhaps the missing element there is the negative connotation I attach to the word. If I teach my child that 2+2=4, and I do not accept another answer, is that indoctrination, or simply teaching?
I would view religion in that context. But I can see where someone would point to the "not optional" part.
When I discuss indoctrination in schools, my first thought is them not teaching facts, but enforcing opinions on students.
So someones understanding of the words used can change their meaning, making the entire discussion meaningless! Way to go!
That was highlighted way back in post #70 but the discussion has drifted to - because it doesn't happen in STEM majors it doesn't happen at all.
Not true, as the recent grads and current students I spoke with stated.
As posted above, their majors were Education, Nursing, Business and Psych. Not to say it couldn't happen in a STEM major although less likely.
So again, does it really matter? Acceptance or denial, it's a choice. However, ''your grade will not suffer'' regardless, unlike the students.
I don't think ideological influences reside with the individual professors as much as with a general Leftist pedagogical bent that comes to define an overall campus culture.
So, the problem on campuses is peer pressure? You are going to deal with peer pressure anywhere. A kid is just going to have to be his own person and deal with that. For example, I am not really a drinker. Just doesn't interest me. However, I did experiment with it in college because there was peer pressure to do that. I think a lot of the sense that colleges are somehow indoctrinating their kids is coming from parents struggling to deal with their child not seeing them as the hero who is always right anymore. Blaming institutions instead of just accepting that their child is becoming their own person.
One feeds the other, imo. The overall campus culture empowers individual professors. Administrators /administrations who set the agenda create the culture where the individual professors are free to act without recourse.
Edit: I should add that i am always entertained when people can't follow your posts because of the words you use. Do you post with a thesaurus on hand, or was your father an English teacher?
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I really need to say no more on this matter. The statement of mine that you quoted is abundantly clear.
I've been watching certain academic dynamics since the late 1960s when I myself was a college student and long ago identified how and why they roll.
He is the English teacher, encouraging the usage of the thesaurus and teaching us new words with a vocabulary lesson. Waiting for the weekly 20 word spelling test.
He is the English teacher, encouraging the usage of the thesaurus and teaching us new words with a vocabulary lesson. Waiting for the weekly 20 word spelling test.
I would believe it in a heartbeat.
Some of us would fail even with our smart phones in hand!
I think the key is the ability to walk away from the organization without any repercussion.That is an interesting tangent.
I take my children to mass, and its not optional. But I've never considered it to be indoctrination. They are free to fall away as adults, but not before then.
Perhaps the missing element there is the negative connotation I attach to the word. If I teach my child that 2+2=4, and I do not accept another answer, is that indoctrination, or simply teaching?
I would view religion in that context. But I can see where someone would point to the "not optional" part.
When I discuss indoctrination in schools, my first thought is them not teaching facts, but enforcing opinions on students.
So someones understanding of the words used can change their meaning, making the entire discussion meaningless! Way to go!
The medical field itself is not considered STEM. Most of those studying nursing or graduate research would have had STEM undergraduate degrees, though.
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I think you are correct. I will add, academia, as a profession, on all levels, attracts people with a more liberal mindset than, say, finance or many other fields. The individual professors are generally fairly liberal, but they were liberal before they became professors. More conservative thinkers are less inclined to pursue academia as a career path.
Proving the point that STEM is not exempt from indoctrination. Just less likely.