Midterm Voters: Are You Better Off Than You Were Four Years Ago?

m.knox

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LOL... No, 8% inflation DOESN'T MATTER!!!

Tell your task master you need to be paid more.
 
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LOL... No, 8% inflation DOESN'T MATTER!!!

Tell your task master you need to be paid more.
You can only use that as a barometer if Trump had come in after a horifically mis-manged pandemic with 3000+ people dying per day and supply chains shut down, because otherwise, it's a fallacious argument. If you wanted to be FAIR, which is not in your nature, you would give Biden credit for a roaring economy and 3% inflation when he handed the keys over to Trump. But we know accuracy is not a concern of yours, it's all about screeching like a spastic loon.
 

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Inflation is absolutely tied to his tariffs and his stupid war. Are you claiming otherwise? And if you agree with me, then how is it "selective" to fairly criticize him for this?
Tariffs not so much. Inflation was a bit lower in 2025 than it was in 2024 and it was only 2.4% in January & February this year. Of course some of the tariffs were passed on to consumers but not all. Furthermore the tariffs had minimal impact on the big items (housing, healthcare, and groceries) because those things are primarily domestic.

There's no question that the war has had a significant impact but that's only been the case for a few months (and likely a few months to come).
 
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bdgan

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Because he doesn't have them. Biden sure did though.
Trump has definitely had them since the straits have been closed. But things were definitely better during Trump's first 14 months than they were under Biden. You can argue that things were heading in a good direction in spite of Trump if you want but you can't argue with the data.
 
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m.knox

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You can only use that as a barometer if Trump had come in after a horifically mis-manged pandemic with 3000+ people dying per day and supply chains shut down, because otherwise, it's a fallacious argument. If you wanted to be FAIR, which is not in your nature, you would give Biden credit for a roaring economy and 3% inflation when he handed the keys over to Trump. But we know accuracy is not a concern of yours, it's all about screeching like a spastic loon.

8% inflation doesn't matter!!! lol....

Trump didn't shut down the economy you idiot.

I swear, you are the biggest lefty dolt who posts here, and that's an achievement.
 
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Tariffs not so much. Inflation was a bit lower in 2025 than it was in 2024 and it was only 2.4% in January & February this year. Of course some of the tariffs were passed on to consumers but not all. Furthermore the tariffs had minimal impact on the big items (housing, healthcare, and groceries) because those things are primarily domestic.

There's no question that the war has had a significant impact but that's only been the case for a few months (and likely a few months to come).
I don't know where you're going with your arguments in this thread? It's like you want to admit that Trump is causing inflation and big headaches for America but you don't want to admit this.
 
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Trump has definitely had them since the straits have been closed. But things were definitely better during Trump's first 14 months than they were under Biden. You can argue that things were heading in a good direction in spite of Trump if you want but you can't argue with the data.
Job production took a massive nosedive after Trump took office. And those numbers dived after his tariffs you say are no big deal. Economy definitely got worse after the pedophile got his policies in place.
 
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Hell yes!

https://issuesinsights.com/2026/06/...-you-better-off-than-you-were-four-years-ago/

his isn’t normally the time when voters are asked whether they are better off than they were four years ago. That’s the question that tends to come around in presidential election years. But as the midterms approach, it’s what everyone should ask themselves as they decide who controls Congress for the next two years.

Because the answer is obvious.

Let’s turn the dial back to June 2022. Joe Biden had been occupying the White House for a year and a half. Democrats controlled Congress, handing him his $2 trillion “Build Back Better” spending extravaganza. The economy had more than recovered the ground it lost from the COVID lockdowns. The country should have been booming.

Four years later, with Republicans in control of Congress, Donald Trump got his One Big Beautiful Bill Act, which cut taxes and spending, funded immigration control, and started deregulating the economy.

Let’s look at the results.

In 2022, real hourly wages were falling. They’d dropped to $11.03 by April 2022.

They were $11.25 in April 2026, which means workers’ incomes have climbed out of the Biden hole and wages are up 2%, after adjusting for inflation. And, unlike 2022, they are going up, not down.

Inflation in April 2022 was 8.3%. In April 2026, it was 3.8%.

The TIPP Economic Optimism Index was 41.2 in May 2022. (It dropped to 38.1 in June.) It was 42.6 this May. (TIPP is a polling partner of I&I.)

The latest jobs data show that there are 5.9 million more private sector jobs today than there were a year ago. That’s the good news. The better news is that there are 190,000 fewer federal workers than there were in 2022.


In April 2022, the border patrol “encountered” 234,088 illegal border crossers, most of whom they released into the U.S.

In April 2026, they encountered … 12,836. (Surely this is one of Trump’s biggest and most unrecognized successes.)

The Dow Jones Industrial Average was 32,813 at the end of May 2022, and was moving sideways. This year, it was 51,075. That’s an increase of 56%. It’s been climbing for most of Trump’s second term.

Despite all the hue and cry over gas prices, they are almost identical to where they were in 2022 – after adjusting for inflation – $4.60 now vs. $4.54 then.

LOVE WHERE I AM

TRUMP IS DOING A FANTASTIC JOB

SAVING THE WORLD
 

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Hell yes!

https://issuesinsights.com/2026/06/...-you-better-off-than-you-were-four-years-ago/

his isn’t normally the time when voters are asked whether they are better off than they were four years ago. That’s the question that tends to come around in presidential election years. But as the midterms approach, it’s what everyone should ask themselves as they decide who controls Congress for the next two years.

Because the answer is obvious.

Let’s turn the dial back to June 2022. Joe Biden had been occupying the White House for a year and a half. Democrats controlled Congress, handing him his $2 trillion “Build Back Better” spending extravaganza. The economy had more than recovered the ground it lost from the COVID lockdowns. The country should have been booming.

Four years later, with Republicans in control of Congress, Donald Trump got his One Big Beautiful Bill Act, which cut taxes and spending, funded immigration control, and started deregulating the economy.

Let’s look at the results.

In 2022, real hourly wages were falling. They’d dropped to $11.03 by April 2022.

They were $11.25 in April 2026, which means workers’ incomes have climbed out of the Biden hole and wages are up 2%, after adjusting for inflation. And, unlike 2022, they are going up, not down.

Inflation in April 2022 was 8.3%. In April 2026, it was 3.8%.

The TIPP Economic Optimism Index was 41.2 in May 2022. (It dropped to 38.1 in June.) It was 42.6 this May. (TIPP is a polling partner of I&I.)

The latest jobs data show that there are 5.9 million more private sector jobs today than there were a year ago. That’s the good news. The better news is that there are 190,000 fewer federal workers than there were in 2022.


In April 2022, the border patrol “encountered” 234,088 illegal border crossers, most of whom they released into the U.S.

In April 2026, they encountered … 12,836. (Surely this is one of Trump’s biggest and most unrecognized successes.)

The Dow Jones Industrial Average was 32,813 at the end of May 2022, and was moving sideways. This year, it was 51,075. That’s an increase of 56%. It’s been climbing for most of Trump’s second term.

Despite all the hue and cry over gas prices, they are almost identical to where they were in 2022 – after adjusting for inflation – $4.60 now vs. $4.54 then.
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PedMaller

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Trump’s stock market keeps skyrocketing higher with SPY to almost 760!!!!! Now that I’m set for early retirement, I’ve been skimming off gains into safer investments. No need to play the game too aggressively when you’ve already won.

So……much……..winning!! 🎉 🇺🇸

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You figure your kids future(s) are better? Honestly? Just rack up as much debt as possible and let them figure it out.
well, you obviously don't know me. I'll leave my offspring and my grandchildren in a better position financially than 99% of americans. Insofar as the national debt, you can go back to 2000 and go from there on that. And believe it or not, I really had just about zero impact on adding to that.
 
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bdgan

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Job production took a massive nosedive after Trump took office. And those numbers dived after his tariffs you say are no big deal. Economy definitely got worse after the pedophile got his policies in place.
The only statement that satisfies you is that Trump has destroyed everything and that the country is going to hell in a hand basket. I don't play that game. I look at the data.
  • Total payroll employment in this country hit an all time record in April at 158.7 million compared to 158.3 million when Biden left office.
  • The inflation rate in February (before the war) was 2.4% compared to 2.9% when Biden took office.
  • From February 2025 to February 2026 wage growth was 4.1% vs inflation of 2.4%
The first 12 months of Trump's second term had some pretty respectable numbers. The war has had a negative impact. Total payroll employment remains strong but wage growth for April was 3.6% vs inflation of 3.8%. I hope the war gets settled and the economy gets back on track but I think it will take some time.

I opposed the war from day 1 because given our debt and the unwillingness of the rest of the world to fight with us I have become more of an isolationist. Trump said weeks not months and he was wrong. You're take on that position is that Trump is my lord. I suggest you remove your blue glasses.
 
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bdgan

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Now that I’m set for early retirement, I’ve been skimming off gains into safer investments. No need to play the game too aggressively when you’ve already won.
There was a guy named Bob Brinker who used to have a financial radio show. He said your goal is to reach the land of critical mass where you could work if you wanted to do so but you didn't have to do so. He said once you check into the land of critical mass you don't want to check out.
 
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The only statement that satisfies you is that Trump has destroyed everything and that the country is going to hell in a hand basket. I don't play that game. I look at the data.
  • Total payroll employment in this country hit an all time record in April at 158.7 million compared to 158.3 million when Biden left office.
  • The inflation rate in February (before the war) was 2.4% compared to 2.9% when Biden took office.
  • From February 2025 to February 2026 wage growth was 4.1% vs inflation of 2.4%
The first 12 months of Trump's second term had some pretty respectable numbers. The war has had a negative impact. Total payroll employment remains strong but wage growth for April was 3.6% vs inflation of 3.8%. I hope the war gets settled and the economy gets back on track but I think it will take some time.

I opposed the war from day 1 because given our debt and the unwillingness of the rest of the world to fight with us I have become more of an isolationist. Trump said weeks not months and he was wrong. You're take on that position is that Trump is my lord. I suggest you remove your blue glasses.
Yes or no? Is the economy going backwards under Trump? Because if you're a numbers guy you have to agree that every month he's in office the economy becomes worse. You've already admitted that inflation is outstripping wages, a reversal from when Biden left office.
 

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Yes yes. Everything is freakin great! Americans are super super happy how great things are now to where we were in November 2024. It’s great! Great great great great great. Americans are Grateful Trump is their president and the economy is so great and so much better under Trump. It’s great. I mean, really great.



“The national survey, conducted May 15-18 among 1,002 registered voters, puts Trump's overall job approval at 39 percent, with 61 percent disapproving. It marks the highest disapproval figure recorded in Fox News polling during Trump's presidency.

While Trump continues to command majority support among Republicans, the data shows that backing from his own party has weakened steadily over the past year, particularly on economic issues. Between February and May alone, Republican net approval fell by 14 points in Fox News surveys. Pollsters say the shift is being driven almost entirely by voter anxiety over affordability and inflation.
 

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That's very selective. Wages have been consistently higher than inflation under Trump for the first year and a quarter of his second term. Now because of the war there's been a spike in inflation. Of course that counts but it's only been for the last two months and things might go the other way when the war is resolved.

No, that's not giving him a pass on the war. It's just stating the facts.
Are you one of those that thinks the clock for the impact a president has on the economy starts and stops with the president’s inauguration? That is not how the economy works.

Trump’s handouts caused a large % of the inflation that popped up on Biden’s watch (and I don’t absolve Biden for his dumba$$ money printing either). Trump’s decisions are causing high inflation this term now too. Only he doesn’t have a patsy to blame it on this time.
 

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Are you one of those that thinks the clock for the impact a president has on the economy starts and stops with the president’s inauguration? That is not how the economy works.

Trump’s handouts caused a large % of the inflation that popped up on Biden’s watch (and I don’t absolve Biden for his dumba$$ money printing either). Trump’s decisions are causing high inflation this term now too. Only he doesn’t have a patsy to blame it on this time.
  • I don't think the president's impact starts and stops with the inauguration.
  • I think the government spent twice as much as necessary during Covid
  • You call it "Trump" spending but it was democrats who were more intent on keeping the economy closed and who insisted on more stimulus checks and unemployment pay higher than what people earned by working.
 

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I don't love Trump. What I observe is the opposite. How much you hate him. You do know it's been going on for an entire decade now, don't you?

Many Americans are struggling due to inflation. Like I said, there was ~17 month period where it was over 6%. We aren't ever getting it back.

We can all be "insiders." Get a job, pay into your 401k, get the match, and in 40 years you will be in decent shape. That's precisely how it is supposed to work.
What a simplistic Trump answer.

We cannot all be insiders. Yes I invest in my 401k but we are seeing market manipulation from Trump. It’s fully rigged for the Trump family to profit off of executive decisions. He’s the most self serving and corrupt POTUS in our history. Are you ok with that? I’m not.

Inflation was in a good spot when Trump took over. He’s done nothing to lower inflation, only raising it. Hell, he’s quoted in saying he doesn’t care about inflation. Do you love higher prices for everything because that’s where we are.
 
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What a simplistic Trump answer.

We cannot all be insiders. Yes I invest in my 401k but we are see market manipulation from Trump. It’s fully rigged for the Trump family to profit off of executive decisions. He’s the most self serving and corrupt POTUS in our history. Are you ok with that? I’m not.

Inflation was in a good spot when Trump took over. He’s done nothing to lower inflation, only raising it. Hell, he’s quoted in saying he doesn’t care about inflation. Do you love higher prices for everything because that’s where we are.
I’m not an insider & I’ve been absolutely CRUSHING it!! (along with pretty much everyone else not blinded by TDS)
 

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well, you obviously don't know me. I'll leave my offspring and my grandchildren in a better position financially than 99% of americans. Insofar as the national debt, you can go back to 2000 and go from there on that. And believe it or not, I really had just about zero impact on adding to that.
Your response proves my point, thank you.
 

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You figure your kids future(s) are better? Honestly? Just rack up as much debt as possible and let them figure it out.
I definitely worry about future generations. The debt will hit them harder than it hit us. Entitlement programs are in trouble.

Do you have a plan to reduce the debt? I haven't heard one from either party. Even small things like funding for PBS and work requirement for able bodied working age people without dependents meets strict opposition.

P.S. My kids will be fine. Both have good jobs and both save a lot.
 

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I definitely worry about future generations. The debt will hit them harder than it hit us. Entitlement programs are in trouble.

Do you have a plan to reduce the debt? I haven't heard one from either party. Even small things like funding for PBS and work requirement for able bodied working age people without dependents meets strict opposition.

P.S. My kids will be fine. Both have good jobs and both save a lot.
Trump is blowing a billion dollars on a ballroom. He's already spent $46 billion on his stupid Iran War. And you worry about PBS funding? You can't be serious with this.
 

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Trump is blowing a billion dollars on a ballroom. He's already spent $46 billion on his stupid Iran War. And you worry about PBS funding? You can't be serious with this.
I have heard from even people on the left the ballroom is being funded privately.

Truth is the debt record will be crushed by the next president but different people will complain because their mood is better.

until the interest on the debt consumes all tax revenue I don’t think much will be done.
 
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I definitely worry about future generations. The debt will hit them harder than it hit us. Entitlement programs are in trouble.

Do you have a plan to reduce the debt? I haven't heard one from either party. Even small things like funding for PBS and work requirement for able bodied working age people without dependents meets strict opposition.

P.S. My kids will be fine. Both have good jobs and both save a lot.
My plan is to stop spending 40% more than we bring in. Massive reduction in spending and, everyone will hate this, taxes will have to be addressed. If they must come up, then so be it. I am aware that is political suicide, someone like trump with a single term and yolo attitude could do it.

Our current path is unsustainable, we all know it, but no one has the balls to speak the truth.
 

dpic73

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the individual governors. Want an example? Florida was 100% open...schools, businesses, churches, assisted living...everything. After about 1 month of the "15 days to slow the spread"
Sure but you're making the point for me. His implication was that Biden shut down the economy when he is actually responsible for it reopening. Before he took office, the Trump admin dumped the vaccine off to the states with no guidance or distribution plan. The American Rescue Plan quickly put the vaccine within arms reach of every American, so even though he spent too much, there were real benefits to some of his spending.
 
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My plan is to stop spending 40% more than we bring in. Massive reduction in spending and, everyone will hate this, taxes will have to be addressed. If they must come up, then so be it. I am aware that is political suicide, someone like trump with a single term and yolo attitude could do it.

Our current path is unsustainable, we all know it, but no one has the balls to speak the truth.
I agree but your plan would send the economy into a 1929 type depression. At this point I'd be happy if we could cut the annual deficit by $200 billion.

A lot of people on the left want to increase taxes on the rich. I agree we should do that but those same people want to use that money to increase social welfare. It's a death spiral.
 

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  • I don't think the president's impact starts and stops with the inauguration.
  • I think the government spent twice as much as necessary during Covid
  • You call it "Trump" spending but it was democrats who were more intent on keeping the economy closed and who insisted on more stimulus checks and unemployment pay higher than what people earned by working.
Did you fail reading comprehension? I literally said Biden was a dumba$$ for printing money in my post. That does not absolve Trump of his culpability and contributions to the issue. Only MAGA fools think Trump had nothing to do with Covid era inflation. So only MAGA fools would think a comparison of 4 years ago to today says anything positive about Trump.
 
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I have heard from even people on the left the ballroom is being funded privately.

Truth is the debt record will be crushed by the next president but different people will complain because their mood is better.

until the interest on the debt consumes all tax revenue I don’t think much will be done.
Things have changed quite a bit since you last heard that.

Republicans want to add $1 billion for Trump's ballroom security to ICE funding plan​

 

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Things have changed quite a bit since you last heard that.

Republicans want to add $1 billion for Trump's ballroom security to ICE funding plan​


Nothing has changed regarding the ballroom shell which will continue down the path of being privately funded,... The suggested $1 billion in "additional" funding is just that,.. Extra dollars to cover upgraded security systems for White House and balloom facilities.
 

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At one point I was better in the last 4 years but over the last year things have been steadily not getting better.

Mainly my dollar not going as far as I used to and not being able to save/invest as much bc I'm spending it on gas and groceries.
 

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Trump is blowing a billion dollars on a ballroom. He's already spent $46 billion on his stupid Iran War. And you worry about PBS funding? You can't be serious with this.
You don't know that.

I don't know the legality of Trump doing the ballroom without congressional approval. I suspect you don't either. I know that a judge stopped it pending congressional approval which seems dumb because demolition was already done.

I don't know if the $400 billion from private donors is still in play or not. Neither do you. The administration says it is.

Some congressmen are supporting $1 billion for security enhancements that aren't tied to the ballroom itself. The biggest item I heard is to put a new bunker under the ballroom. It's also for bullet proof glass in the east wing, drone detection systems, chemical detection systems, visitor screening facilities, and secret service training facilities.

My best guess is that congress will approve some of this but not all of it. I don't know and neither do you. But go ahead and make up your own reality.
 
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