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You know things are bad when Fox News starts actually reporting the news. And for once, Trump isn’t lying. If Netanyahu allows the war to end, his corruption trial resumes. Perpetual war has been part of his political survival strategy for a long time now. He doesn’t really care about Israel or the loss of life on either side. Like Trump, self preservation is his only real concern.
This is a rich comment. So rich, I’m surprised your fingers didn’t stick to the keyboard.
Which part are you claiming is rich?
Any valid criticism of our President and his administration over the last couple weeks?
Try the part about Fox News starting to report the news. Hello CNN, MSNBC, ABC........
Nice try though. You libs have been foaming at the mouth soon as Sleepy Joe got escorted out of the White House.
Sleepy Joe should have never been allowed in the White House.
I've been weary of some of Trump's decisions, and definitely his mouth, as the other conservatives here are too. Never though during Biden's term did we hear any criticism/questioning of him from any of the libs here.
They totally ignored the biggest con job from 21-25. Had it not been for the one debate Ol Joe had to do, everyone right of center would have continued to be gas lit. They almost succeeded in "Weekend at Bernie's" him along for his term.
His response yesterday shows once again that he’s incapable of processing information that goes against his chosen worldview. Complaining about “the media” is a safe space for these guys. It allows them to lie to themselves and downplay how terribly wrong they’ve been.
It’s why they always go back to basics and try to insert Biden into every conversation. Biden is an easy target. Defending policy and results is always much harder, even with a normal administration. You have to actually know what you’re talking about and be able to examine information rationally.
These guys are only capable of regurgitating talking points. They have no real understanding of the topics they opine on, and as a result, they’re not capable of actual debate. With the scale of the incompetence and corruption in Trump’s administration, there’s simply no defense to be made. So they fall back on the tried and true tactic of attacking Biden, even though Trump is almost halfway through his second term and owns the terrible economy he’s created, as well as the wars he’s started.
The truth is too much for these guys to bear. They would have to admit that they were lied to and fell for it, that their chosen information sources are propaganda networks, and that they’ve spent years defending people who were lying to them. They simply can’t do that.
Look how spot on it is. Just a few little tweaks.
Your last part about the truth is too much? Man you are driving a nail with a sledgehammer. But don't have a clue just how accurate you were. These same words were said MANY times from 21-25.
4 Republicans huh. Great. If they’re representing their constituents all’s good. But if we’re disincentivized from going to war in the future if gas prices might go up not so great.
In 2010 5 Republicans sided with the Dems for an immediate withdrawal from Afghanistan. It reflects a healthy democracy when our public servants vote in a manner reflecting the will of their constituents. That’s a good thing. In rural districts that are more impacted by high gas prices ( diesel, fertilizer) I’d expect more defections. That’s what Iran is counting on as we get closer to the midterms. We’ll see how it plays out.
This is the advantage that theocracies like Iran and dictatorships like China have over a nation like ours that shifts policy objectives with the next election cycle top of mind. It’s great that our leaders are held accountable but it makes pursuing long term goals politically problematic.
Higher tariffs Exhibit A. By the time our manufacturing sector reaps the benefits, another Dem stooge will be in office and likely take the credit.
Agree to disagree on this one. While Biden’s use of his drug addicted son to influence peddle was no doubt alarming, Trump’s use of the Oval Office to enrich his family is next level. His sons have made a killing off defense sector stocks alone.
Of course, Obama, Bush, and Clinton were influenced policy wise by powerful forces who gave a **** ton of money, but Trump is in a class of his own. It’s a shame too because the rampant fraud in MN and CA could be a huge political winner for Rep, but people in glass houses….
Could you kindly give us an example of when you’ve “ processed information that goes against your chosen worldview”?
When you’ve done nothing but demonize those with whom you disagree with, frequently peppering your diatribes with words like ‘pathetic’, ‘embarassing’, and oh yeh my favorite ‘brain rot’. In my experience, those who constantly tell others how smart they are are usually of above average intelligence, but sadly have underachieved in life. Does this sound like anyone you know?
I’ll have to take your word on how the Trump’s have used the office for major profit, because I hardly ever watch news anymore. I’m in no way defending him because it’s wrong and dirty, which is why I said it would be sad if little ducky devil is right about Trump. But let’s not pretend the coverages of past presidents and him are on the same playing field. Because they aren’t. They did everything they could to keep anything sleazy from us when Obama was in office, and we saw how they coddled Ol Joe up until his debate.
If Trump doesn't wipe his a** after going to the bathroom like the press thinks he should, he gets roasted.
The press has been a joke for years if not decades. This doesnt excuse this level of grift though:
True. Dr. Jill was concerned that he may have been having a stroke during the debate, and she was so worried that she took him to Waffle House. The waitress did a quick EKG and wellness check and declared he “ looks fine to me”, as Sleepy Joe sniffed her hair and dreamt of better days with Corn Pop and the gang
To say I'm disappointed would be an understatement. It's not what I voted for. Sadly it just shows how corrupt politics are. The lure of money is just too much. I just wish our comrades here that lean heavy to the left would show some disappointment at their party too. To them, it's Orange Man bad, Orange man cause of all problems, Orange man worst president...
DC, and the media need an overhaul.
No doubt. They’re obsessed with Trump and sadly he has given them plenty to feed their sickness. Our side is often accused of cult like behavior yet conservatives on this thread are the only ones calling their side out. From concerns about tariffs and their impact on small businesses and consumers to disgust with his embarassing tweets, we’ve been critical throughout these two years on a wide range of issues.
And now the resident libs don’t know what to do. They see that we aren’t in “love” with what we see out of the President, and they’re stumped. Deep down they also know we are right about all we’ve said.
They just don’t have it in them to admit the same about their side. That says all you need to know.
Nice try at what? Our worldviews on this are so far apart you really need to spell it out for me. I'm trying not to fill in the gaps with the worst assumptions.
I don't disagree. People in their 70s and older should be retired from public service. In certain contexts, I'm pretty sure it's legal for that to be compulsary. Worse than their likely incompetence -- as seen through Presidencies 45, 46, and 47 -- is that they are out of touch with the population. And in the case of Boomers, they just plain suck.
I will still defend President Biden's term against the assertions from dramatic, pearl-clutching conservatives here that he was the worstest worsifer that ever worsted a worsalope BY FAAAAAAAR in AAAAAAAAALLLLLL of US history. Those extremist, hyperbolic, snowflake tears started in 2021, less than a year into his Presidency. My consistent message to y'all from then until now has been to get some freakin perspective, some therapy, and to stop being so emotional.
I rank President Biden well below the average ranking academic experts give him -- academic experts who take their work seriously and have high integrity in trying to be as objective as possible -- which is still ahead of at least 7 Presidents preceding him in my book. But we couldn't have an honest conversation about that because y'all are so emotionally compromised and hysterical with BDS about it.
But enough about the President who left office almost a year and a half ago...
"I've been weary of some of Trump's decisions, and definitely his mouth, as the other conservatives here are too. "
Easy to say. In fact, you say it a lot. But it's always in this amorphous abstract. What do you mean by "weary"? What are examples of specific decisions? I won't need specific examples of how you are "weary" of his mouth, but what do you think is the potential damage of the things he said? Since the aftermath of the 2016 election, I've heard it said that conservatives took his candidacy seriously but not his rhetoric, and liberals took his rhetoric seriously but not his candidacy. I would hope that your "weariness" about "his mouth" includes recognition that it may have very serious implications, which would be a big shift from the average conservative apologist who shrugs off every offensive thing he says, or mocks liberals for being upset over something so petty as "mean tweets." So what's a way in which his irresponsible rhetoric contributes to real harm?
The equivocation of President Trump to a-n-y-t-h-i-n-g Presidents Biden or Obama did is outrageous. Y'all claim they weaponized the DoJ... and then excuse the undeniable, far more blatant and extreme weaponization President Trump has done. They're investigating E Jean Carroll, for Pete's sake! A woman who won a civil suit against our President for sexual assault!
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There's a Simpsons episode where Sideshow Bob is running for mayor while threatening revenge on Bart. Homer goes into the voting booth and thinks out loud something like, "Well, I don't agree with his 'kill Bart' policy... but I am looking for that middle class tax cut," and votes for Sideshow Bob.
That's what y'all do with President Trump. You mildly criticize an economic policy, then defend the execution of citizens in the streets of Minneapolis.
Signs indicate a political motivation for the filing of the suit. Doesn’t mean she wasn’t assaulted, but it does shade things very differently as her attorneys were paid by a Dem donor.
Furthermore, she lied in a deposition as to how her attorneys were being paid. She claimed that they were on contingency, which of course means they only get paid if they win the suit. This turned out to be a lie. So to suggest there’s nothing to see here folks and Trump is on a witch hunt seems premature to put it mildly.
Justice Department opens criminal probe involving E. Jean Carroll testimony in Trump sexual abuse lawsuit
The probe is focused on a trust founded by billionaire Democratic donor Reid Hoffman, whose nonprofit helped pay some of Carroll’s legal costs.
www.nbcnews.com
Friends,
We’ve made tremendous progress over the last few months. I must admit, I had my doubts that, regardless of whatever information you were presented with, you would ever truly stop believing the bull**** you were being fed. You’ve proven those thoughts wrong, and I’m very proud of you.
It turns out that supercharging inflation, destroying the economy, and starting yet another endless war was a bridge too far even for Donald Trump. No notes, no attacks, just congratulations on finally seeing the light. Welcome to the resistance.
In bold: where you went wrong, then wrong-er-er.Signs indicate a political motivation for the filing of the suit. Doesn’t mean she wasn’t assaulted, but it does shade things very differently as her attorneys were paid by a Dem donor.
Furthermore, she lied in a deposition as to how her attorneys were being paid. She claimed that they were on contingency, which of course means they only get paid if they win the suit. This turned out to be a lie. So to suggest there’s nothing to see here folks and Trump is on a witch hunt seems premature to put it mildly.
Justice Department opens criminal probe involving E. Jean Carroll testimony in Trump sexual abuse lawsuit
The probe is focused on a trust founded by billionaire Democratic donor Reid Hoffman, whose nonprofit helped pay some of Carroll’s legal costs.
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Yikes. Has Trump ever looked worse physically? The bloated face, the rotting hands, the swollen limbs, the slurred speech. He can’t keep his eyes open during meetings. I can’t think of a President in modern history who has looked worse physically. What do you guys think is wrong with him? Heart failure? Something worse?
Not sure he has heart failure. Definitely major cognitive issues though. Started in 2020, maybe earlier. Was basically a walking vegetable by the time the debate in 24 rolled around. Oh, sorry, I thought you were describing Sleepy Joe. You didn't mean to, but you nailed him though lil duckey.
Other than swollen limbs, none of those symptoms are typically associated with heart failure Even then, it’s usually the legs that are swollen, especially from the knee down. A drooping face and slurred speech would more likely be indicative of a stroke. The below article doesnt address this perfectly, just found it to be an interesting read.
Lingering Questions After President Trump’s Physical And Health Checkup
A radiologist and public health expert breaks down President Trump's recent physical exam and what questions remained unanswered to the general public.
www.forbes.com
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The libs here are a sad few. They piss themselves in excitement over everything Trump says, looking to go "GOTCHA, you bunch of Trump loving, MAGA hat wearing clowns... even when we question Trump. Let that one sink in. Yet they spent over 4 years spinning better than a washing machine.
It only proves they are ONLY interested in their side winning, when the sad reality is, we are all losing. Right now, and I have to admit it, it appears to not matter who sits behind the big desk. Sleepy Joe slept behind it, but the results were the same.
They remind me of the guy that has been wearing the pie in the face for years. Most due to their own making. They now stand behind the door waiting for their sweet revenge, only to have the door smashed into them, in turn wearing the pie yet again.
It only proves they are ONLY interested in their side winning, when the sad reality is, we are all losing. Right now, and I have to admit it, it appears to not matter who sits behind the big desk. Sleepy Joe slept behind it, but the results were the same.
They remind me of the guy that has been wearing the pie in the face for years. Most due to their own making. They now stand behind the door waiting for their sweet revenge, only to have the door smashed into them, in turn wearing the pie yet again.
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Well, Datt has been spinning for four years, Dirt just showed up. This “you’re either with us or against us” mentality from both MAGA and the Dems is extremely destructive to our republic. Moderate voices on social media are ignored entirely. The extremes on both sides either mock them by calling them sellouts or seek to cancel them in public spaces. All of this creates a very toxic atmosphere online and it has seeped into the halls of Congress and the WH whomever is in charge
I would change this part to the toxic atmosphere was created by those in power in DC, and they wanted it to seep down to the citizens.
And they love it.