Kentucky basketball pride gone?

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Mark Pope (April 2024): "When Mitch called me and talked to me about being the head coach here at Kentucky, I understand the assignment. We are here to win banners. We're here to win banners in Nashville, because you guys turn out in Nashville like nobody else and that matters. And to go win banners in the Final Four, win national championships. That's our job. With those high expectations, there will come criticism..."



also Mark Pope (March 2026, after finishing 9th in the SEC): "We're making progress."
Looks like we are making progress
 
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MegaBlue05

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Just checking in to see if those of you who were injured over the weekend by the falling sky are OK.
 
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Jeff Hoyt

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Fox and Wallace maybe not -- they were high 5 stars. Probably even Pope gets them to the NBA. Johnson and especially SGA were not ranked that high. Cal specifically sought them out. Herro and Booker are also 4 stars that proved Cal's eye for talent.

Remember that Pat Riley commented that he preferred to draft Cal's players due to the pro prep they got.

A lot of hate goes to Cal for results on the floor, and that's very valid -- his main priority should have been to win games for UK. However, NOBODY can deny that he is by far the best coach at developing pro talent and probably one of the best eyes for talent in history.

Could Pope have gotten Reed Sheppard drafted #3? I don't think you're being honest if you say Yes.
Yes he could have. Just what did Cal do? Play him behind Wagner? The NBA saw what Cal did not. Cal got players exposure, and he only played Reed once it became impossible to not play him.
 
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Jeff Hoyt

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I hate to be a downer, but I'm not sure it's really that possible to be super invested in the program any longer. I'd argue Pope wanted it to be like it was - and even said the right things, but college sports in general are so screwed up right now it makes it impossible to have pride in the program.

Pro sports have the benefit of long term contracts. I'm a huge Braves fan. We'll have had Acuna for 9 years and he's on contract for another 2, Olson for another 6, Riley for another 6, Albies for another 2. I've been watching these guys play together for at least the last 4 years - and in Acuna's case 9. Guys like Chipper Jones, Tom Glavine and John Smoltz are always back announcing games. There is love for the program by the players.

Now look at UK. As far as I can tell, it has been like 14 years since we've had a key, top level guy stay for four years (Miller). And I don't really remember anybody stay for three since PPat. It is impossible to build a connection and have pride in the program when this is happening.
You are exactly correct.
 
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Jeff Hoyt

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Too early to make an honest assessment.

Didn’t expect a title in the first few years nor all the crippling injuries.

Takes time to grasp the UK program and get situated.

This year will tell something and where we are headed.
How DARE YOU not be hysterical. Don't you know that not being hysterical is the cause of all our problems?
 
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I of course hope we get Milan. But, there was the day where Kentucky wasn't held so hostage or looked foolish with recruiting like it has now occurred. If you don't act elite are you?

We have been played by some recruits in the Cal era of course, or before, and it happens. But, why is our recruiting so public that we end up looking like fools with the whiffs? St. Johns landed Yessoufou right after he withdrew without any fanfare. We thought we were going to get Freeman and again without much attention another St. Johns commit. Of course Stokes was the most public recruiting for Kentucky where we looked beyond foolish to where he landed instead.

At what point can Kentucky be the elite landing place as in the past? I know the easy answer is the coach. Personally, I would still hire an assistant like J. Crawford (despite not landing Stokes) or someone similar who is that well connected. In fact, the money being mentioned for Milan would be better served long-term paying a top assistant coach like Crawford or a name, etc.

In any event, in my view to be elite you have to risk acting the same and not look like we are at present.....desperate.
You need some meds. Good luck!