Should there be reseeding before Super Regionals?

[QuaoarsKing]

It probably comes across as a self-serving time to ask this question, but it's been discussed plenty of times in the past. Some years it would help us (like this year), but it would have hurt us in 2007 and 2018.

These would the likely matchups:

(4) St. John's @ 3 Georgia
(4) Little Rock @ 4 Auburn
(3) Cal Poly @ 5 North Carolina
(3) Troy @ 6 Texas
(2) Oklahoma @ 7 Alabama
(2) USC @ 10 Oregon
(2) Ole Miss @ 14 Mississippi State (didn't even realize this would be the matchup when I first thought of making this thread)
16 West Virginia @ 15 Kansas

 

[QuaoarsKing]

Anyway, I voted yes:

• Baseball is a very random sport and I want to eliminate as much randomness as possible. Why should 1 out of (Little Rock and Troy) get to go to Omaha and also 1 out of (Mississippi State and Georgia)? Getting to Omaha should be about playing well, not largely dependent on lucking out with corresponding results.
  • You could make that same argument for the basketball tournament, but there aren't nearly this many random upsets there. If there were, I would support reseeding that too.
• There is plenty of precedent for reseeding in sports generally. For example, in both the NFL and NHL playoffs, the best seed gets the worst opponent remaining in their conference.
• I don't care that it's hard to ask a team like Troy or Little Rock to go on the road and beat a good team for a second time. They should have to do that to get to Omaha because they didn't have regular seasons that were even close to Omaha-worthy. It should be really hard to get to Omaha if you had a mediocre regular season, and much easier to get there if you had a really good one. Give the regular season more stakes.
  • Georgia's regular season was outstanding, and now they probably have the hardest Super Regional of any hosts, while Troy not only gets one but also gets to play a 4 seed in it.
  • Also, Cal Poly didn't even play UCLA so the "they earned the right to take the host's spot" argument doesn't always work.

 

[Puppers]

I like the randomness and upsets. Troy hosting ULR is cool. I say set the bracket and if you want to host win games.

 

[QuaoarsKing]

I like the randomness and upsets. Troy hosting ULR is cool. I say set the bracket and if you want to host win games.

Did Troy do anything in their Regional that we didn't do in ours? No.
Did Troy do anything in their regular season that we didn't do in ours? Not even close.

Troy is hosting because they got lucky that Little Rock won a corresponding bracket that was locked into theirs no matter what. If you like the randomness, fine, but Troy didn't earn that Super Regional hosting spot. It just happened.

 

[DawgsNCowboys87]

Should there be? Possibly I’m not certain but confident if we bring the same energy and game plan well we could beat almost anyone. Yes even UGA, they should have a hard time beating us again if we play the way we’ve shown we can play. Of course I’d rather host Ole Miss than go to Athens but I think we will win. I’m still shocked at UCLA getting eliminated by 17ing St. Marys

 

[Dirty Dirk]

Did Troy do anything in their Regional that we didn't do in ours? No.
Did Troy do anything in their regular season that we didn't do in ours? Not even close.

Troy is hosting because they got lucky that Little Rock won a corresponding bracket that was locked into theirs no matter what. If you like the randomness, fine, but Troy didn't earn that Super Regional hosting spot. It just happened.

They absolutely earned it. Everyone agreed to the rules beforehand and they won their portion, to say otherwise is disingenuous.

 

[She Mate Me]

No.

 

[Hugh's Burner Phone]

Did Troy do anything in their Regional that we didn't do in ours? No.
Did Troy do anything in their regular season that we didn't do in ours? Not even close.

Troy is hosting because they got lucky that Little Rock won a corresponding bracket that was locked into theirs no matter what. If you like the randomness, fine, but Troy didn't earn that Super Regional hosting spot. It just happened.

People were making this same argument the year we made the final four. Did we get lucky or did we just go out and win games while others lost?

 

[Lowdog]

Yes!

Do not reseed the Super regionals host sites. Because if you win enough games, especially SEC, and are a top 8 seed then I believe you should be rewarded a super host site.

I would like to see the rest of the field for the super regionals be reseeded except for the host teams for no other reason than take out the good ol’ boy network of the committee choosing where the rest of the teams go. Use a system of lottery (ping pong balls) to reseed. I’m old and jaded and don’t trust jack sh&$ anymore. Especially when it comes to the NCAA.

 

[johnson86-1]

I like the randomness and upsets. Troy hosting ULR is cool. I say set the bracket and if you want to host win games.

It is cool, but it gives some teams too much of an advantage. You’re not just giving some teams an advantage getting to the supers, but you are giving some teams an easier path once they get to Omaha. There is so much randomness, giving one team a much easier game to start the CWS, and one team an easier elimination game, is a pretty significant advantage that is not earned but complete luck.

It’s certainly not the worst thing in the world and I don’t think people are crazy for liking it as is, but I’d change it if I were king for a day.

 

[DesotoCountyDawg]

I would say no for super regionals but you could reseed for the CWS.

 

[kired]

It is cool, but it gives some teams too much of an advantage. You’re not just giving some teams an advantage getting to the supers, but you are giving some teams an easier path once they get to Omaha. There is so much randomness, giving one team a much easier game to start the CWS, and one team an easier elimination game, is a pretty significant advantage that is not earned but complete luck.

It’s certainly not the worst thing in the world and I don’t think people are crazy for liking it as is, but I’d change it if I were king for a day.

I like keeping regionals & supers the way they are now. But I definitely think they should reseed the World Series. Crazy how you could have one side stacked with top 16 and the other side have no top 16 teams.

 

[msugolf]

The easiest thing to do is seed the hosts correctly from the beginning. There was no reason for certain teams, like USM, to be seeded where they were. And stop with matching up SEC teams in Supers. I get that the ncaa wants teams from other parts of the country to make it but in the end you’re penalizing the schools that have carried the sport for everyone else, and you’re hurting the city of Omaha with poor matchups, schools that won’t travel/buy tickets.

 

[She Mate Me]

And stop with matching up SEC teams in Supers.

There were 12 SEC teams in the tournament. Rules don't allow them to be in the same regional.

It's impossible not to have SEC teams matched up in potential Supers when there are 12 regionals with SEC teams and only 8 Super Regionals fed by the 16 first round regionals.

 

[QuaoarsKing]

People were making this same argument the year we made the final four. Did we get lucky or did we just go out and win games while others lost?

I don’t think us getting 1 easier game but still having to later beat a 1 and a 2 on the way to the Final Four (in a totally different sport) is really comparable to Troy getting to host a 4 seed in a Super Regional instead of going to the road to face a top 10 team. Like I said, each sport is different.

If the NCAA wanted to reseed the basketball tournament each weekend, it wouldn't strongly object, but I don't think there's a pressing need in basketball like there is in baseball

 

[BTCMoonBoy]

Hellllll no!!!

 

[curseddawgs]

Did Troy do anything in their Regional that we didn't do in ours? No.
Did Troy do anything in their regular season that we didn't do in ours? Not even close.

Troy is hosting because they got lucky that Little Rock won a corresponding bracket that was locked into theirs no matter what. If you like the randomness, fine, but Troy didn't earn that Super Regional hosting spot. It just happened.

We didn’t earn it either

 

[Puppers]

Did Troy do anything in their Regional that we didn't do in ours? No.
Did Troy do anything in their regular season that we didn't do in ours? Not even close.

Troy is hosting because they got lucky that Little Rock won a corresponding bracket that was locked into theirs no matter what. If you like the randomness, fine, but Troy didn't earn that Super Regional hosting spot. It just happened.

That's baseball

 

[BoDawg.sixpack]

No, sample size is tiny compared to the regular season. We shouldn't reseed based on which teams got hot for a 4 or 5 game session.

 

[OG Goat Holder]

Define "should".

To determine the best team? Yes.
To have fun and allow some parity and excitement? No.

At the end of the day you can't really argue that UCLA and Georgia Tech didn't have their shot. They were playing at home.

 

[QuaoarsKing]

No, sample size is tiny compared to the regular season. We shouldn't reseed based on which teams got hot for a 4 or 5 game session.

I think you're making the argument for resending, which would just use the committee's rankings from the ballot reveal to rank the 16 remaining teams 1-1 based on the regular season, not the Regionals.

 

[QuaoarsKing]

Define "should".

To determine the best team? Yes.
To have fun and allow some parity and excitement? No.

At the end of the day you can't really argue that UCLA and Georgia Tech didn't have their shot. They were playing at home.

Would reseeding really reduce parity or excitement? I don't think so.

Is it more or less parity to hand a CWS spot to Troy or Little Rock?

 

[GloryDawg]

The SEC network was talking about this yesterday. Here is how it works.

Timing of Super Regionals in the NCAA Baseball Postseason​

Super regionals are not set before postseason play starts — they are scheduled after the regional round concludes.

In the NCAA Men’s College World Series format, the tournament begins with 16 regionals (double-elimination series) at each of 16 host sites. These run for a set number of days, typically the first weekend of June NCAA+1.

Once the regionals are complete, the top two teams from each regional advance to the super regional round. This is a best-of-three series between the two regional winners, and it takes place the following weekend Baseball America.

For example, in the 2026 tournament, regionals ran from May 29–June 1, and super regionals began Friday, June 5 NCAA+1. The final eight teams from the super regionals then travel to Omaha, Nebraska, for the College World Series, which starts the day after super regionals end NCAA.

In short:

• Regionals: Set and played first.
• Super regionals: Scheduled after regionals, not before.
• Postseason: Regionals + super regionals + College World Series.

So, if you’re asking whether super regionals are “set before” post season play starts, the answer is no — they are part of the postseason schedule that follows the regionals.

 

[OG Goat Holder]

Would reseeding really reduce parity or excitement? I don't think so.

Is it more or less parity to hand a CWS spot to Troy or Little Rock?

Yes, it most definitely would. Your entire premise is to hand the tournament over to the elite teams, so that's the exact purpose.

Giving hope, albeit small hope, to the smaller schools increases fan engagement in the game.

What you're talking about doing may work in football, where engagement is already at an all-time high.

 

[patdog]

No, sample size is tiny compared to the regular season. We shouldn't reseed based on which teams got hot for a 4 or 5 game session.

That's actually an argument for why we SHOULD reseed.

 

[johnson86-1]

I like keeping regionals & supers the way they are now. But I definitely think they should reseed the World Series. Crazy how you could have one side stacked with top 16 and the other side have no top 16 teams.

I do agree the argument for reseeding the CWS is stronger. End of year tournaments that aren't multi game series like the NBA playoffs are always going to be about identifying the team playing the best and sometimes getting the luckiest and not the best overall team, but potentially having one side of the bracket stacked makes it even more likely that the best team does not win, and there's really no justification for it since there's no historical breakdown like you'd have in say eastern and western conference like the NBA. IT's already pretty much random. No real reason not to reseed except for I guess the argument that you schedule the Supers and the first round of the CWS so that the teams starting supers later play their first game in the CWS later.

 

[QuaoarsKing]

Yes, it most definitely would. Your entire premise is to hand the tournament over to the elite teams, so that's the exact purpose.

Giving hope, albeit small hope, to the smaller schools increases fan engagement in the game.

What you're talking about doing may work in football, where engagement is already at an all-time high.

It doesn't have to be "elite" schools necessarily, just the higher seeded ones who had better regular seasons. The same would apply if Troy and Little Rock were SEC teams with the same resumes, neither would deserve to host a Super while much better teams have harder matchups.

 

[OG Goat Holder]

It doesn't have to be "elite" schools necessarily, just the higher seeded ones who had better regular seasons. The same would apply if Troy and Little Rock were SEC teams with the same resumes, neither would deserve to host a Super while much better teams have harder matchups.

Would you want to do this for the NCAA basketball tournament? I'd argue that the actual CHAMPION there is a pretty elusive club. We seem to think that are more random than football because we see cinderellas, but cinderellas don't often WIN the tournement. It happens, but not nearly as often as the perception.

And moving forward in the NIL era, I think you will see a downclick in the 'randomness' of the baseball tournament, at least when it comes to crowning a champion. And that's only because the big teams can now give 'essentially' full scholarships to baseball players, where that wasn't the case before.

And I recognize football is now getting more random, but you're talking about a lot more money. 80% of teams out there have no interest in funding baseball like that.

 

[maroonmania]

I personally think it would be the right thing to do but can you just single out baseball? What about softball as well or even the NCAA basketball tournament? Of course at least basketball is played all on neutral floors but still.

 

[Puppers]

Would reseeding really reduce parity or excitement? I don't think so.

Is it more or less parity to hand a CWS spot to Troy or Little Rock?

No one handed them anything. They went on the road and beat good teams. They earned their spots in the super regional and whichever team advances to Omaha will have earned it. They are not the reason we or anyone else is on the road this weekend.

 

[Perd Hapley]

Did Troy do anything in their Regional that we didn't do in ours? No.

Uh yeah, actually they did a lot more than we did. They beat a Top 8 seed twice, and they did it on their home field. They also beat a pretty strong 2-seed in Miami. They had 3 wins in their regional that were all probably better than our best win over Cincy. The 2 wins over UF definitely were.

Did Troy do anything in their regular season that we didn't do in ours? Not even close.

No, but that doesn’t matter once the postseason begins. It’s definitely not fair to punish Troy, only because the 1-seed, 2-seed, and 3-seed ALL couldn’t take care of business in a totally different regional.

Troy is hosting because they got lucky that Little Rock won a corresponding bracket that was locked into theirs no matter what.

You left out the part where they also went 2-0 against a Top 8 host from the SEC, and went 3-1 against the Top 2 seeds. Whoever won that regional would have “gotten lucky” by your definition, even if it was chalk city and UF went 3-0.

If you like the randomness, fine, but Troy didn't earn that Super Regional hosting spot. It just happened.

They certainly earned it. The host in the opposite bracket went 0-2. They beat the host twice in their regional. If they didn’t earn it, who did? Ole Miss?

 

[QuaoarsKing]

No one handed them anything. They went on the road and beat good teams. They earned their spots in the super regional and whichever team advances to Omaha will have earned it. They are not the reason we or anyone else is on the road this weekend.

Normally a team who did exactly what Troy did still has to go on the road again for the Supers. Troy was lucky that instead of going to Hattiesburg to face #9 that instead it's a home series against a 4-seed. They earned their spot in the Supers like everyone else, but who anyone gets as their opponent is luck

 

[QuaoarsKing]

I personally think it would be the right thing to do but can you just single out baseball? What about softball as well or even the NCAA basketball tournament? Of course at least basketball is played all on neutral floors but still.

Softball yes, basketball could go either way. I wouldn't object, but it would kill the bracket challenges.

 

[mike tice]

Did Troy do anything in their Regional that we didn't do in ours? No.
Did Troy do anything in their regular season that we didn't do in ours? Not even close.

Troy is hosting because they got lucky that Little Rock won a corresponding bracket that was locked into theirs no matter what. If you like the randomness, fine, but Troy didn't earn that Super Regional hosting spot. It just happened

That's like... your opinion man. The bastrds showed up and showed out. I'm for sure not hatin on these Trojans. Well done Troy

 

[Puppers]

Normally a team who did exactly what Troy did still has to go on the road again for the Supers. Troy was lucky that instead of going to Hattiesburg to face #9 that instead it's a home series against a 4-seed. They earned their spot in the Supers like everyone else, but who anyone gets as their opponent is luck

If you want to take luck and variables out then we should have just given UCLA the trophy in January when they were preseason number 1

 

[Called3rdstrikedawg]

It probably comes across as a self-serving time to ask this question, but it's been discussed plenty of times in the past. Some years it would help us (like this year), but it would have hurt us in 2007 and 2018.

These would the likely matchups:

(4) St. John's @ 3 Georgia
(4) Little Rock @ 4 Auburn
(3) Cal Poly @ 5 North Carolina
(3) Troy @ 6 Texas
(2) Oklahoma @ 7 Alabama
(2) USC @ 10 Oregon
(2) Ole Miss @ 14 Mississippi State (didn't even realize this would be the matchup when I first thought of making this thread)
16 West Virginia @ 15 Kansas

There are about 330 D1 Baseball Programs. Same as Basketball. That is too many.

D1 needs to be split into 2 Divisions.
Sure, the story of St. Mary’s, Little Rock, Milwaukee are great stories. But do they belong at the same level as P4 and the Top 2 leagues in G6? NO!

Troy plays D1 Football and are in probably the 5th best conference so they are a legitimate threat to contend in minor sports. But Long Island, Yale, Holy Cross, Binghamton, and even Lipscomb proved they don’t belong in a tourney at this level.

IF…. Big IF, the NCAA survives this abomination that’s uncapped NIL and open annual Free Agency, they need to re-structure all Divisions. If not, the Conference Presidents will do it for them.

 

[dickiedawg]

There are about 330 D1 Baseball Programs. Same as Basketball. That is too many.

D1 needs to be split into 2 Divisions.
Sure, the story of St. Mary’s, Little Rock, Milwaukee are great stories. But do they belong at the same level as P4 and the Top 2 leagues in G6?

St. John’s, Cal Poly, Troy and Little Rock proved they can compete with the big schools by winning their regionals.
Schools like Fresno State and Coastal Carolina have proven they can compete by winning the whole thing (not in the NIL free for all era, granted).

Weird things happen in baseball. Keep college baseball weird.

 

[WrightGuy821]

No. Reseeding takes away from the weight of the tournament. It's not easy for anybody to make it to Omaha. The NCAA shouldn't make it any easier

 

[Dirty Dirk]

Since were opening this up for them to screw with, do they drop teams due to injury? If a team advances but lost one of their key pitchers, do they get dropped down in the reseed?

 

[patdog]

St. John’s, Cal Poly, Troy and Little Rock proved they can compete with the big schools by winning their regionals.
Schools like Fresno State and Coastal Carolina have proven they can compete by winning the whole thing (not in the NIL free for all era, granted).

Weird things happen in baseball. Keep college baseball weird.

They can't compete with the big schools. They got lucky one weekend.