Zoom Again?

[Bluegrasskingreboot]

I caught a lot of flak for suggesting that Pope should be more aggressive in negotiations by dropping the big bag and say here it is. This disappears without a signature on 6 hours.

Only to find out that’s exactly what Pitino has been doing this cycle. Pope and staff suck at maintaining leverage.

While generally true, I am unclear on what leverage there is to maintain in this situation.

This is very much a sellers market and precious little to effectively threaten a pivot to to change that.

No space for games or playing tough now.

We need him more than he needs us other than a high bid.
Putting our junk on the table at this point most likely gets it chopped off.

 

[Im The Village Idiot]

While generally true, I am unclear on what leverage there is to maintain in this situation.

This is very much a sellers market and precious little to effectively threaten a pivot to to change that.

No space for games or playing tough now.

We need him more than he needs us other than a high bid.
Putting our junk on the table at this point most likely gets it chopped off.

Disagree. The highest bidder with a time sensitive offer absolutely has leverage. Your mentality is exactly how you surrender any value you have and end up in a losing effort with a major bidding war at the end.

 

[Aike]

While generally true, I am unclear on what leverage there is to maintain in this situation.

This is very much a sellers market and precious little to effectively threaten a pivot to to change that.

No space for games or playing tough now.

We need him more than he needs us other than a high bid.
Putting our junk on the table at this point most likely gets it chopped off.

You attract the same energy you put into the world. The best recruiters reel in the guys who are also brimming with self-confidence and cool under pressure.

 

[kywildcat1021979]

How many zoom calls do they have to have with 1 player???? Go meet the guy in person sheesh...

 

[Im The Village Idiot]

How many zoom calls do they have to have with 1 player???? Go meet the guy in person sheesh...

Mom didn’t want to do in-person visits with anyone according to reports. Zooms are his way of getting a feel before making a quick decision.

 

[kywildcat1021979]

Instead of the Daffey gifs.... We need to start getting the whiff gifs ready.....

 

[UKJenning]

Pope is really, really bad at closing deals with players.

Even when he offers the most money.

I can’t imagine suffering through another year of him attempting to recruit!

 

[Im The Village Idiot]

 

[mash_24]

They’re waiting for anything close from Arizona or Michigan. And they’ll probably get it. He’s not coming.

 

[MidseasonTweak]

They’re waiting for anything close from Arizona or Michigan. And they’ll probably get it. He’s not coming.

Neither will be able to come close.

 

[Bluegrasskingreboot]

Disagree. The highest bidder with a time sensitive offer absolutely has leverage. Your mentality is exactly how you surrender any value you have and end up in a losing effort with a major bidding war at the end.

What is the magic answer if the response is kick rocks if you are "time sensitive" and if I decide I want to come after your phony tough threats then it will be for the last offer or I go elsewhere.

There is no real fall back position

 

[Im The Village Idiot]

What is the magic answer if the response is kick rocks if you are "time sensitive" and if I decide I want to come after your phony tough threats then it will be for the last offer or I go elsewhere.

There is no real fall back position

There is no magic answer. You move on. If you aren’t willing to lose, you don’t win.

Unfortunately, Pope keeps doing what you’re suggesting over and over and we keep getting burned.

 

[ftp000]

Wonder if that fool posts here.

Without a doubt

 

[FitchandMurray29]

Respectfully to that guy, I’m not trying to listen to UL fans boast about money and having the most in college basketball this spring then cry wolf when they’re getting outbid on guys.

I refuse to believe he’s wasting time with zooms with Louisville if the offers are that substantially different.

Just my opinion. I know “insiders” are claiming our offer is the highest.

 

[LineSkiCat14]

This would be a crippling blow to Pope and BBN. Picks our rival for less cash and a lesser role.

There'd be only one person to blame. If you lose out to lesser programs, offering less money, for a lesser role.. than that means Mom really didnt buy Pope's vision, plan or coaching.

If this is indeed how this goes, that we lose out to Mom with the above stipulations, than Pope has to go. A lot like how I say Scheyer starts on 3rd base. Well the same sort of applies here. Popes offer is standing on 3rd base and he cant get home.

 

[JAC71]

Some clown called in KSR this morning and he hoped we didn’t get Milan so UK would suck this year and they would fire Pope. SMH

I want Pope gone but not for sake of tanking the team… it’s not fair to the players who put in the hard work

 

[Anon1739778738]

I promise whiffmaster will not let us down LOUISVILLE IT IS !!!

 

[JASUN74]

It seem to me like, if everything else is close to equal, and we have the highest offer, He’s not thinking about IF he wants to play here, he’s thinking of how much he doesn’t want to play here. Especially if he takes less money to play somewhere else! How in the world can we always have the highest offer, but it’s always a bunch of drama and nothing is ever easy.

Hopefully they’re just finalizing all the details of the contract. I did see Yesterday , some of the bigger YouTube guys, (so called insiders), were acting like it would be Monday or Tuesday before we heard anything, so we’ll see. Even if it is, it just never seems easy for us. Come on Mark, bring this guy home.

 

[Beatle Bum]

There'd be only one person to blame. If you lose out to lesser programs, offering less money, for a lesser role.. than that means Mom really didnt buy Pope's vision, plan or coaching.

If this is indeed how this goes, that we lose out to Mom with the above stipulations, than Pope has to go. A lot like how I say Scheyer starts on 3rd base. Well the same sort of applies here. Popes offer is standing on 3rd base and he cant get home.

Give it a rest. Geez. Pope is not going because he did not land Milan. That is just stupid. Just like you are not going to give him a fourth year if MilMom comes to UK.

Pope will go if his record is poor by UK standards again. Milan is going to make millions regardless of where he goes. He may actually like the plan presented by another school. Pope will live and die by his record and he knows it. So give this threshold off season crap a rest. It’s pathetic.

 

[LineSkiCat14]

Give it a rest. Geez. Pope is not going because he did not land Milan. That is just stupid. Just like you are not going to give him a fourth year if MilMom comes to UK.

Pope will go if his record is poor by UK standards again. Milan is going to make millions regardless of where he goes. He may actually like the plan presented by another school. Pope will live and die by his record and he knows it. So give this threshold off season crap a rest. It’s pathetic.

Or, what, exactly? Hit that ignore button, by all means.

 

[Son_Of_Saul]

I think he's coming here but his agent is using the other schools to get more out of UK.

If I had a dime for every time I've heard that in a Mark Pope recruitment, I could buy a whole box of wax pack 1989 Topps baseball cards.

 

[Anon687865]

It seem to me like, if everything else is close to equal, and we have the highest offer, He’s not thinking about IF he wants to play here, he’s thinking of how much he doesn’t want to play here. Especially if he takes less money to play somewhere else! How in the world can we always have the highest offer, but it’s always a bunch of drama and nothing is ever easy.

Hopefully they’re just finalizing all the details of the contract. I did see Yesterday , some of the bigger YouTube guys, (so called insiders), were acting like it would be Monday or Tuesday before we heard anything, so we’ll see. Even if it is, it just never seems easy for us. Come on Mark, bring this guy home.

If everything is truly equal, y'all are forgetting we hold the trump card of all Trump cards; we have the Rainman in our corner. Cmon Rain use your connections and work your magic. Help get this done

 

[MichaelGray]

You have to be from Louisville?

I’m from Louisville, so not trying to be insulting.

Me 2

 

[Anon1768287303]

Give it a rest. Geez. Pope is not going because he did not land Milan. That is just stupid. Just like you are not going to give him a fourth year if MilMom comes to UK.

Pope will go if his record is poor by UK standards again. Milan is going to make millions regardless of where he goes. He may actually like the plan presented by another school. Pope will live and die by his record and he knows it. So give this threshold off season crap a rest. It’s pathetic.

Thank you! I was about to make a similar post. It is ridiculous how some who have no control or insight as to how this will play out can't at least wait until they know the outcome before placing blame.