Cignetti saying college football won't survive.......

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Article to the right: https://www.on3.com/college/indiana...hen-college-football-changes-need-to-be-made/

I am so sick of this chicken little self righteous BS from these coaches, especially from the guy who just won the title. What he's REALLY saying is, HIS program may not be able to keep up, continuously. And what he's saying even more than that......is Mark Cuban, PLEASE continue to fund this thing so he can. Lane Kiffin say that same shlt, Nick Saban before him. It's like concern-trolling.

Look man, the schools are on the hook for the rev share.....that's it. So the SEC and B1G, as long as they have their TV deals, will survive. The whole P4 probably will. You don't have to pay anymore than that, and you don't have to pay that if you don't want.....so how exactly are the schools' expenses skyrocketing?

It's boosters paying for this. As long as they continue to pay, there's nothing stopping it. It's extra. When they stop, it goes back to the 20M rev share. It won't get any less than that.

What am I missing here, besides coaches just trying to sound the alarm for their own self interests? The huge salaries of these coaches from a damn NPO essentially is what truly got this stuff into any real type of unsustainable territory. We've been hearing this "1-2 years from collapse" crap since June 2021. Ironically, MSU winning a national championship, even in a minor sport, might be what sparked the junction point of the whole college sports space time continuum.
 
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They get paid, so hard to feel sorry for them but I do empathize with how coaching has changed in the portal era. It’s got to be tough to have to re-recruit and having so much roster turnover each year.
It’s why you see a lot of these guys try to get NFL jobs.
 
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They get paid, so hard to feel sorry for them but I do empathize with how coaching has changed in the portal era. It’s got to be tough to have to re-recruit and having so much roster turnover each year.
There's no doubt that the quality of college football (played on the field) has gone way down. At least at the top end. It's kind of gotten back to playground style. And since no one can consolidate the best players, it's like a single A travel ball tournament with a bunch of guest players.
 

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There's no doubt that the quality of college football (played on the field) has gone way down. At least at the top end. It's kind of gotten back to playground style. And since no one can consolidate the best players, it's like a single A travel ball tournament with a bunch of guest players.
Yeah. That’s what happens when half these guys never met until April.
 
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It’s dead to me. And to me, that’s all that really matters. I’m not really complaining or bitching. I just don’t watch it if Mississippi State isn’t playing.
This is where I am. It’s becoming more and more difficult to care about it when it’s not State. And it’s tiring to have to learn so many new guys each year for our team.
 

Perd Hapley

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Tv ratings say it isn’t.
That’s like saying album sales charts say that pop music isn’t dead.

Our country is full of idiots who have a very surface level interest in a number of things. I’ve found that the larger the audience is for just about anything I might be interested in, the more terrible the product is.
 

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That’s like saying album sales charts say that pop music isn’t dead.

Our country is full of idiots who have a very surface level interest in a number of things. I’ve found that the larger the audience is for just about anything I might be interested in, the more terrible the product is.
Well you're right about that. That's why they are selling the TV product, that's exactly who it appeals to.

I am curious how viewership and numbers are for the ancillary stuff.....the crootin sites, the Finebaum type shows, etc. where people follow and get all upset. I bet a lot of that has declined.
 
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That’s like saying album sales charts say that pop music isn’t dead.

Our country is full of idiots who have a very surface level interest in a number of things. I’ve found that the larger the audience is for just about anything I might be interested in, the more terrible the product is.
I’m in agreement with all of you. I’m just saying that eyeballs and money is all that matters to these people.
 

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I rarely watched any MSU games last year.
Same, I wait and watch the recap on Sunday mornings on YouTube. Takes maybe 20 minutes, I see just the highlights with no crappy plays, don't have to have any sports packages to tune into it, don't have to pay TWICE to park (Bulldog Club fee plus parking fee) twice to buy a ticket, don't have to pay $12/beer. Lots of plusses........
 
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I may ***** and mowin about our ineptitude sometimes, even during games, but I’m going to watch as much MSU athletics as I can. Watching the girls against Texas right now!
 

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I'll still watch msu. But I'm finding it easier to watch other big matchups and not have a hatred for either team. If that makes sense. I watch bama and root for them now for example. I can remember being a kid and absolutely wanting to punch the tv when I saw them on tv. Haha

Anyways, I find when I watch State now a days, I can see how much smaller and slower we are... and it feels helpless. I know there isn't much we can do about it either because of money. But... It is what it is.... as they say.
 
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The article doesn't really specify but I'm sure he is referring to the open transfer portal and bidding war that takes place among collectives boosters to win a bid on a player.

I really don't know how they coach teams when players walk in and demand more money because the school down the road has offered more. Then you have to go kiss *** to get more money from a booster. You never know who is coming back or how to build depth. It's just pay, plug and play.

College football is a meat market now. Also I can't imagine smart business people pay these players what they do, but they do. It seems incredibly stupid to me but... hey, can't let the rival get em. However I would think at some point boosters will wake up and say f this too. I ain't giving some kid that much money for nothing.
 
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The article doesn't really specify but I'm sure he is referring to the open transfer portal and bidding war that takes place among collectives boosters to win a bid on a player.

I really don't know how they coach teams when players walk in and demand more money because the school down the road has offered more. Then you have to go kiss *** to get more money from a booster. You never know who is coming back or how to build depth. It's just pay, plug and play.

College football is a meat market now. Also I can't imagine smart business people pay these players what they do, but they do. It seems incredibly stupid to me but... hey, can't let the rival get em. However I would think at some point boosters will wake up and say f this too. I ain't giving some kid that much money for nothing.
As long as rich boosters want to win, they’ll continue to do what it takes to win. So I don’t see things changing anytime soon.
 

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The article doesn't really specify but I'm sure he is referring to the open transfer portal and bidding war that takes place among collectives boosters to win a bid on a player.

I really don't know how they coach teams when players walk in and demand more money because the school down the road has offered more. Then you have to go kiss *** to get more money from a booster. You never know who is coming back or how to build depth. It's just pay, plug and play.

College football is a meat market now. Also I can't imagine smart business people pay these players what they do, but they do. It seems incredibly stupid to me but... hey, can't let the rival get em. However I would think at some point boosters will wake up and say f this too. I ain't giving some kid that much money for nothing.
It’s a rounding error to these folks. We can’t imagine that, but to them it’s nothing. Let’s say Sellers is worth half of the 2.8B he sold his company for (10 years ago). If he parks his money in a 4% interest account he can fund a championship football team yearly himself.
 

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I finally answered the phone call from the athletic department. Called me at work. I knew who it was because it showed up as Dudy Noble. They were doing a survey why I stop buying season tickets. I let that kid have it and then apologized but to his credit he said he wanted to hear what my issue was. It all centered around coaching. I also told him I was starting start to buy in until the bowl game. That was the worst bowl prep ever. They were not ready to play and looked like Lebby's first year.
 
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It’s dead to me. And to me, that’s all that really matters. I’m not really complaining or bitching. I just don’t watch it if Mississippi State isn’t playing.
It's been a few years since I've watched more than a handful of plays at a time from any college game State isn't playing. I just no longer care enough to give attention to what everyone else is doing.
 
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I’d like to see what would happen to college football and NIL if we ever went into a recession.
It only got better in 2008. Like that Ole Miss poster I referenced the other day, sports is the most recession proof business there is.

But yeah I’d like to test that theory in this new era. Lot more variance now.
 

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Of course goat goes all in on the UM stoopid angle. Recession hasn't truly hit our country yet. We are about FAFO on a true recession. Govt debt is critical and folks using debt to survive; our country hasn't been in the spot ever.
 

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Been hearing this for 40 years.
***** about to get real for most folks and the govt is too leveraged to borrow and save the chosen ones. Five years ago I wouldn't disagree but **** has moved way too far past anything any of us have seen. Fuel, food, housing, none of it is sustainable at this price point that is doing nothing but going up. Bean hope you are correct but things are way different than when we were growing up.
 

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***** about to get real for most folks and the govt is too leveraged to borrow and save the chosen ones. Five years ago I wouldn't disagree but **** has moved way too far past anything any of us have seen. Fuel, food, housing, none of it is sustainable at this price point that is doing nothing but going up. Bean hope you are correct but things are way different than when we were growing up.
So move all my retirement to a money-market fund ?
 
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***** about to get real for most folks and the govt is too leveraged to borrow and save the chosen ones. Five years ago I wouldn't disagree but **** has moved way too far past anything any of us have seen. Fuel, food, housing, none of it is sustainable at this price point that is doing nothing but going up. Bean hope you are correct but things are way different than when we were growing up.
Gotta quit drunk posting bruh
 

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***** about to get real for most folks and the govt is too leveraged to borrow and save the chosen ones. Five years ago I wouldn't disagree but **** has moved way too far past anything any of us have seen. Fuel, food, housing, none of it is sustainable at this price point that is doing nothing but going up. Bean hope you are correct but things are way different than when we were growing up.
I agree, just been hearing it for 40 years.

I think western civilization is on a long slow descent to collapse, probably started in the 80s, will likely take another 25-50 years or so. Not that things won't increasing get worse and worse before then, it just takes a long time to collapse. I encourage folks these days not to have kids, life in this county 50 years from now, will probably be very hard for everyone but the elites.
 
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Gotta quit drunk posting bruh
Gotta look at the real world goat. Most folks ain't sitting on a gold mine and gas just hit damn near $4/gal in MS. That's some BS. Last time gas spiked killed the housing market. May have been because of lending practices but still fuel kills(excuse me drives) the economy.