By Friday another deal will be announced. Just in time for Trump to buy a lot of cheap stock again.
Sounds like trump will get his Obama deal on Iran
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By Friday another deal will be announced. Just in time for Trump to buy a lot of cheap stock again.
Wow. I know you have likely witnessed the work of a lot of angry people online. The blather being produced by that poster is epic indeed.
The guy looks tired and defeated. Oh, he is. Check.
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People have been talking about this exact situation happening in Iran for 15+ years.
It’s been the same song and dance for like 8 weeks now. It’s so embarrassing.
I’m so exhausted and and we’re barely over a year in
we knew this would happen....the first term was full of chaos as well. But the majority of voters, even knowing about the first term, voted for him anyway. I don't know what that says about us, the issues, the candidates or what/whomever.
Maybe we need someone younger, a new generation, with some new ideas. And I say that as a member of the Biden/Trump generation
But he's dreaming about owning the libs
It is absolutely time for a changing of the guard. 80 and 90 year olds need to get off the political dole. Go to the house.
No, but usually there is a plan in the first place.
I agree that the vastly majority of people are stupid. Keep in mind that ~65% of Americans think they are above average intelligence.
We are a stupid populace and it’s getting worse. Kids are constantly using AI so they aren’t actually learning.
Idiocracy is a documentary
And he doesn't realize it.
He is, he used to run the Southside of Chicago, or the Westside, maybe it was Compton. I just know he's a bad mofo. Just ask him.
Meanwhile his voters take zero responsibility for this.
"vast majority," not "vastly majority"
The phenomenon of people making mistakes while insulting the intelligence of others isn't just limited to MAGAts (though they do dominate in this arena).
Iran's negotiating strategy makes sense if you think that its highly enriched uranium (HEU) was always intended as a bargaining chip (as opposed to being turned into nukes).
Trump has made "no nukes" the #1 demand. So the question is what he'll give away to get all the HEU.
Remember, Iran had no HEU during the Obama deal. They had a small amount before the Obama deal (only enriched to 20%, but that counts as HEU; current stores are 60% enriched), and gave that up when they signed the Obama deal. They also reduced their amount of commercial grade uranium (which was then capped at 3.67%).
Iran only started producing HEU again more than a year after Trump pulled out of the Obama deal. Conventional wisdom at the time was that they started doing that as a bargaining chip in negotiations with EU nations to remove sanctions.
Trump is struggling, spending, and killing people in an as-yet-unsuccessful effort to get back to the Obama deal.
Trump desperately needs to get something - anything - more than Obama got. Even if he succeeds, that's unlikely to convince smart people that this was a justified war.
Trump has made "no nukes" the #1 demand. So the question is what he'll give away to get all the HEU.
Remember, Iran had no HEU during the Obama deal. They had a small amount before the Obama deal (only enriched to 20%, but that counts as HEU; current stores are 60% enriched), and gave that up when they signed the Obama deal. They also reduced their amount of commercial grade uranium (which was then capped at 3.67%).
Iran only started producing HEU again more than a year after Trump pulled out of the Obama deal. Conventional wisdom at the time was that they started doing that as a bargaining chip in negotiations with EU nations to remove sanctions.
Trump is struggling, spending, and killing people in an as-yet-unsuccessful effort to get back to the Obama deal.
Trump desperately needs to get something - anything - more than Obama got. Even if he succeeds, that's unlikely to convince smart people that this was a justified war.
@Hotshoe where do you rate this on the zero to art of the deal rating system?
@Hotshoe where do you rate this on the zero to creepy ymca dance scale?
Iran has no plans to develop a nuke.
It's the "threat" that gives them power and influence.
Trump and his minions are being played, yet again.
It's the "threat" that gives them power and influence.
Trump and his minions are being played, yet again.
It says that we are a profoundly stupid country. Just accept it.
If I prefer Red Gold Fancy ketchup does that make me an independent?
Point taken and the timeliness of it is unfortunate; however, a grammatical error from typing too quickly is not on quite the same level as what we are discussing. And just so we are clear, that is a statistic. Insulting others or not, it is simply a mathematical observation.
Likely has nothing to do with Isreal or allies, but most likely due to the fact that everyone is saying that this deal is on par or worse that Obama's deal that he tore up. Now his fragile ego will not let that happen.
I love how Trump's team says they are 95% there with the deal except for the no nukes and the opening of the strait parts. Um...
Trump would be better off if he didn't say anything. In this case he's like the little boy who cried "wolf"....the war will be over quickly is really meaningful the first time you say it, and maybe even the second or third time...but when you keep saying it weeks or months later it sort of loses it's believability.
MAGA would buy a house from Trump that was “95% complete” …all the walls, paint, appliances, electrical, HVAC and plumbing ready to go.
They will happily overlook the absence of a foundation and a roof.
Somebody please help me out here. What part of the deal Trump says he will make is better than the deal Obama got?
During the period when the Obama deal was in effect, these things were true:
1. The Strait of Hormuz was open
2. Iran promised it would not make nukes
3. Iran's enrichment was limited to commercial grade (3.67%)
4. The IAEA regularly conducted inspections
After Trump pulled out, items 1, 2 and 4 were still true.
Now, only 2 is still true.
Of course Iran hawks never believed Iran when it said it didn't want nukes. When they make the same promise to Trump as part of a deal, will it suddenly become believable?
During the period when the Obama deal was in effect, these things were true:
1. The Strait of Hormuz was open
2. Iran promised it would not make nukes
3. Iran's enrichment was limited to commercial grade (3.67%)
4. The IAEA regularly conducted inspections
After Trump pulled out, items 1, 2 and 4 were still true.
Now, only 2 is still true.
Of course Iran hawks never believed Iran when it said it didn't want nukes. When they make the same promise to Trump as part of a deal, will it suddenly become believable?
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