Unlike most Pope rosters...

[paulcalhoun_rivals397471]

Then we failed 38 times. May not be your standard, it is for a lot of fans who want Kentucky to be great. Not saying you don’t, just saying.

I guess you can set it whatever you choose but it is not reasonable. No team in the country has ever been able to live up to that for any significant stretch of time. Coach K pulled it off 16 times in 42 seasons and I kind of doubt there is any more successful example out there.

30 win season frequency-

16 times in the last 50 years for Puke

15 times in the last 50 years for Kansas

12 times in the last 50 years for Kentucky

10 times in the last 50 years for UNCheat

10 times in the last 50 years for UConn

2 times in the last 50 years for Indiana

8 times in the last 50 years for Louisville

6 times in the last 50 years for UCLA

4 times in the last 50 years for Florida


Conclusion: Indiana sucks

 

[JASUN74]

I guess you can set it wherever you chose but it is not reasonable. No team in the country has ever been able to live up to that for any significant stretch of time. Coach K pulled it off 16 times in 42 seasons and I kind of doubt there is any more successful example out there.

Dude, who are you to tell someone how to think and be a fan of their team? I appreciate everyone’s opinions here, if you don’t, move on to someone else.

 

[paulcalhoun_rivals397471]

Dude, who are you to tell someone how to think and be a fan of their team? I appreciate everyone’s opinions here, if you don’t, move on to someone else.

You can say whatever you want which I just said in the last post. I never told you you couldn't but if what you say is not factual or logical I am free to point that out as well.

 

[JASUN74]

You can say whatever you want. I never told you couldn't but if what you say is not factual or logical I am free to point that out.

Great

 

[bigblueinsanity (the real)]

This team could turn out really good. What will ultimately matter is what’s played on the floor and not how many or how few stars they had in HS. Clayton Jr from Florida was technically a nobody by CBB ranking standards. He was 69th overall and 17th for PG’s.

That kind of jump is by far the exception rather than the rule.

Also wcj had haugh and condon around him. Our entire front line can't combine their talents to equal either of those players.

We still have the opportunity to have a surprising season but its going to take a few guys having a massive jump to get anywhere near that Florida team.

 

[Bleedin Blue in Ohio]

I think this roster is a sweet 16 roster as is. Get Mom and this roster will compete in the SEC and be a legit threat to get to the Elite 8 or better. I would take the Cats guard combo over every SEC team right now. This is the best set of starting guards since 2019. 2 McDonald All Americans in starting lineup and future NBA players at all 5 positions. If they get Mom that will allow Hawthorne to develop and he has a really decent ceiling.

 

[TheApostleSaulSmith]

If we get Momcilovic? Ill put a thousand
that says we wont fella

I want in on that action

 

[Anon200440]

I think this roster is a sweet 16 roster as is. Get Mom and this roster will compete in the SEC and be a legit threat to get to the Elite 8 or better. I would take the Cats guard combo over every SEC team right now. This is the best set of starting guards since 2019. 2 McDonald All Americans in starting lineup and future NBA players at all 5 positions. If they get Mom that will allow Hawthorne to develop and he has a really decent ceiling.

Reeves and sheppard absolutely dog walk this guard combo btw

 

[Bleedin Blue in Ohio]

Reeves and sheppard absolutely dog walk this guard combo btw

Sheppard did not start. And he got abused in NCAA tourney by a low mid major player. Try again.

 

[Anon200440]

Sheppard did not start. And he got abused in NCAA tourney by a low mid major player. Try again.

Yeah im not trying to be that guy but im not letting a one game sample size define how good a player is, hes currently one of the best young up and comers in the league lol

 

[Anon1751335390]

Reeves, Shep, and Dilly were fantastic.

Despite having all three, that team finished barely inside the top 25 in kenpom. What went wrong? How was that team not all world?

Crazy stat:

DJ Wagner had a negative 1.2 BPM. That was much worse than Jasper Johnson. To compound the issue, he played over 2x as many minutes. Calipari, with 3 quality backcourt players, chose to play and start a player worse than Jasper Johnson over 20 minutes a game.

That team should've had a 6-7 man rotation.

Shep
Dilly
Reeves
Theiro
Mitchell
Z/Onyenso

Maybe stretch it to 8 to play Edwards to give a wing a break or there's foul trouble.

Bradshaw and Wagner, especially Wagner with that backcourt firepower, shouldn't have seen the court.

 

[Bleedin Blue in Ohio]

Yeah im not trying to be that guy but im not letting a one game sample size define how good a player is, hes currently one of the best young up and comers in the league lol

Reeves, Shep, and Dilly were fantastic.

Despite having all three, that team finished barely inside the top 25 in kenpom. What went wrong? How was that team not all world?

Crazy stat:

DJ Wagner had a negative 1.2 BPM. That was much worse than Jasper Johnson. To compound the issue, he played over 2x as many minutes. Calipari, with 3 quality backcourt players, chose to play and start a player worse than Jasper Johnson over 20 minutes a game.

That team should've had a 6-7 man rotation.

Shep
Dilly
Reeves
Theiro
Mitchell
Z/Onyenso

Maybe stretch it to 8 to play Edwards to give a wing a break or there's foul trouble.

Bradshaw and Wagner, especially Wagner with that backcourt firepower, shouldn't have seen the court.

Your favorite Coach started Wagner and Edwards over Sheppard and Dilly. Those guards could not guard. In the SEC tourney the A&M guards blew past all of the UK guards got into the lane at will and destroyed that team. Then they showed no heart in the NCAA tourney and Jack Goecke exposed that team.

 

[RunninRichie]

No true Kentucky basketball fan thinks barely getting 20 wins is a good season. 30 plus or a final four run is the standard for UK and it’s why we’re the greatest team in the history of the game. Just a few seasons ago we were talking about 40-0 and meant it. I was thinking more like 36-3 or something like that, but you get what I’m saying. Anyway, luckily getting 20 wins isn’t cutting it for the Head Basketball Coach of The University of Kentucky. I know Mark Pope would agree with that to and he knows it’s time to prove he’s got what it takes or not. I’m 100% behind him and hope he shows the world he’s the right guy for this program, if not, it’s time to make some hard decisions. Let’s go Coach, get it done and shock the world this year.

I think 25 games is the standard.

 

[Anon200440]

Your favorite Coach started Wagner and Edwards over Sheppard and Dilly. Those guards could not guard. In the SEC tourney the A&M guards blew past all of the UK guards got into the lane at will and destroyed that team. Then they showed no heart in the NCAA tourney and Jack Goecke exposed that team.

Yes but that wasnt the argument, the dude I was arguing with insinuated that our guard room this year is better than that one

 

[Anon1751335390]

This board ranted & raged about Amari & Brea .
Everybody loved Butler - KK - Carr - Robinson (all injured) .
This next team is more talented than the first team at every position 1 thru 10.

I admit to being rather frustrated with Amari early on lol

 

[Bleedin Blue in Ohio]

Yes but that wasnt the argument, the dude I was arguing with insinuated that our guard room this year is better than that one

Yes, our starting guards this year is better than the starting guards that year. The bench would be stronger that year.

 

[Anon200440]

Yes, our starting guards this year is better than the starting guards that year. The bench would be stronger that year.

Zoom and wilkins MIGHT be better than edwards and revees

if we do shep and rob vs zoom and wilkins its laughable how not close it is

 

[paulcalhoun_rivals397471]

Great

More sarcasm? You were actually the one trying to tell someone else what they should post. From what I've seen you have actually been a knowledgeable and quality poster all this time but you apparently have a fragile ego and you got seriously butthurt for no good reason.

 

[paulcalhoun_rivals397471]

Dude, who are you to tell someone how to think and be a fan of their team? I appreciate everyone’s opinions here, if you don’t, move on to someone else.

It seems you just do not understand the definition of what a standard is. Something that you fail to do 76% of the time is not actually your standard. What you are doing is setting a demand based on false entitlement.

 

[Ash Williams]

if we end up with less than 10 losses will Ritchie, 10mil, Wildcats1987 self ban, I will self ban if we have more

What’s the point of that? Why don’t you self ban now and if Pope keeps his job you come back.

 

[DudahUK]

Zoom and wilkins MIGHT be better than edwards and revees

if we do shep and rob vs zoom and wilkins its laughable how not close it is

Reeves is severely underrated by most. No way either of these guards will be better than him. Pope better hope they are.

 

[DudahUK]

Yes, our starting guards this year is better than the starting guards that year. The bench would be stronger that year.

How do you figure?

 

[paulcalhoun_rivals397471]

Reeves is severely underrated by most. No way either of these guards will be better than him. Pope better hope they are.

Reeves was very good for UK but if you compare his freshman and sophomore numbers to Zoom and Wilkins they have a clear advantage over Reeves.

Antonio Reeves College Stats | College Basketball at Sports-Reference.com

Antonio Reeves - Stats, Game Logs, Splits, and much more

www.sports-reference.com

Zoom Diallo College Stats | College Basketball at Sports-Reference.com

Zoom Diallo - Stats, Game Logs, Splits, and much more

www.sports-reference.com

Alex Wilkins College Stats | College Basketball at Sports-Reference.com

Alex Wilkins - Stats, Game Logs, Splits, and much more

www.sports-reference.com

 

[Son_Of_Saul]

if we end up with less than 10 losses will Ritchie, 10mil, Wildcats1987 self ban, I will self ban if we have more

Self banning doesn't mean much when a bunch of posters have multiple accounts. Most of the Pope-First Fans have a few accounts. It's the only reasonable way to explain why he still has support on this message board.

I actually don't think you guys believe in him like you're fronting that you do.

Not at all. It's just a fun contrarian position to take to troll fans.

 

[Bleedin Blue in Ohio]

Zoom and wilkins MIGHT be better than edwards and revees

if we do shep and rob vs zoom and wilkins its laughable how not close it is

Reed Sheppard had 3 points vs Oakland in his NCAA tourney game. Think about that. Dilly had 10 points vs Oakland. That is 13 points between these 2 great guards that played at UK. Wilkens had 23 vs UConn. UConn not Oakland. Your ignorant argument is now over. These 2 great guards pissed down their leg in the tourney. Wilkens stepped up and almost knocked off the runner up's of the tourney.

 

[Yardeth]

only 4 or 5 sec teams? Omg. We are back!

I bet when other teams look at our roster they will be terrified of UK and the big name players on the team.

 

[Yardeth]

I can see that, too, Village. I'm with you .. the offensive make-up of this team has pieces that fit together better than last year.

If the guards can penetrate and when they kick it out, can we make 3’s?

 

[Farsight Clone]

15 losses.

I always knew you were a good man, but you're a great man for your profile pic

 

[Anon200440]

Reed Sheppard had 3 points vs Oakland in his NCAA tourney game. Think about that. Dilly had 10 points vs Oakland. That is 13 points between these 2 great guards that played at UK. Wilkens had 23 vs UConn. UConn not Oakland. Your ignorant argument is now over. These 2 great guards pissed down their leg in the tourney. Wilkens stepped up and almost knocked off the runner up's of the tourney.

Cool, and shepn will have a better professional career than both, you know why, HE'S BETTER

 

[Bleedin Blue in Ohio]

Cool, and shepn will have a better professional career than both, you know why, HE'S BETTER

Not as a college player he was not. Shep was a major disappointment as a college player for UK. 20 years from now people will know the name Jeff Sheppard at UK but say who in regard to Reed Sheppard. Wilkens had a much better Freshman season and he will only get better in year 2. That is all that matters. I could care less about the NBA. I don't get excited when UK wins on draft night. I want to see UK win in March and April.

 

[Anon200440]

Not as a college player he was not. Shep was a major disappointment as a college player for UK. 20 years from now people will know the name Jeff Sheppard at UK but say who in regard to Reed Sheppard. Wilkens had a much better Freshman season and he will only get better in year 2. That is all that matters. I could care less about the NBA. I don't get excited when UK wins on draft night. I want to see UK win in March and April.

Brother more people ALREADY know about reed more than jeff what are you talking about

 

[Bleedin Blue in Ohio]

Brother more people ALREADY know about reed more than jeff what are you talking about

Reed will be remembered as an NBA player not a UK player. He had a rather pedestrian uninspiring Freshman season. He was not even a starter on his team. He was embarrassed by Oakland in his one and only tourney game. Jeff is a National Champion that will always be remembered as a UK legend.

 

[Anon200440]

Reed will be remembered as an NBA player not a UK player. He had a rather pedestrian uninspiring Freshman season. He was not even a starter on his team. He was embarrassed by Oakland in his one and only tourney game. Jeff is a National Champion that will always be remembered as a UK legend.

Reed sheppard will be known for decades, jeff is known by a smaller more niche community, our fanbase overlaps in uk and nba so we know and love both

 

[Bleedin Blue in Ohio]

Reed sheppard will be known for decades, jeff is known by a smaller more niche community, our fanbase overlaps in uk and nba so we know and love both

If you think a 2-time National Champion that played at UK is only known by a niche community you are just a troll and not a UK fan. Many of us live and die UK basketball. Bleed blue thru and thru. I am glad our past players are successful in the NBA, but I no longer follow them when they leave UK for the NBA. As far as UK goes what they did when they wore the UK jersey will be how they are remembered as UK players. Reed was a special athlete and very good shooter and that got him drafted in the NBA and will allow him success in the league. He did not really do much as a player here at UK and his legacy as a UK player will always be lacking. He played on a team that were huge underachievers. You and many posters are on Coach Pope for not having a team play to UK standards. Reed Sheppard's team was on that same level. 23-12 with the #1, #3, #5, #16, and #24 recruits in the nation on the team. No wins in the SEC tourney and no wins in the NCAA tourney.

The 2020's have been poor for UK basketball. We have really only had 2 special UK players in this decade so far Oscar Tshiebwe and Otega Oweh. Every other player has under achieved just like the 2024 team. Zoom and Wilkens on paper are the best set of starting guards UK has had since 2019 now they have to prove it on the court. Shep and Dilly did not.

 

[Bluegrasskingreboot]

The Cal haters seem to have been more correct than I could process.

We now have a bunch of fans that no longer give a crap about Kentucky Basketball other than as a talent conduit to the NBA.

For many it is about the ratings and draft night with the entertainment value hinged on seeing the names matriculate not any actual play level or style.

I've even seen a poster or two lament a focus on winning (even if accompanied by the wins)! What fresh hell is that?

 

[Anon200440]

If you think a 2-time National Champion that played at UK is only known by a niche community you are just a troll and not a UK fan. Many of us live and die UK basketball. Bleed blue thru and thru. I am glad our past players are successful in the NBA, but I no longer follow them when they leave UK for the NBA. As far as UK goes what they did when they wore the UK jersey will be how they are remembered as UK players. Reed was a special athlete and very good shooter and that got him drafted in the NBA and will allow him success in the league. He did not really do much as a player here at UK and his legacy as a UK player will always be lacking. He played on a team that were huge underachievers. You and many posters are on Coach Pope for not having a team play to UK standards. Reed Sheppard's team was on that same level. 23-12 with the #1, #3, #5, #16, and #24 recruits in the nation on the team. No wins in the SEC tourney and no wins in the NCAA tourney.

The 2020's have been poor for UK basketball. We have really only had 2 special UK players in this decade so far Oscar Tshiebwe and Otega Oweh. Every other player has under achieved just like the 2024 team. Zoom and Wilkens on paper are the best set of starting guards UK has had since 2019 now they have to prove it on the court. Shep and Dilly did not.

Im not saying no one knows jeff sheppard, im just saying for every say 10 ppl that know reed, about 3-4 of them will know jeff