UFO/aliens……

GloryDawg

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John 10:16. And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.
 
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HRMSU

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They were mentioned again in Numbers. The Rephaim and Anakin. Goliath, King Og and others. In 1st Samuel God instructed King Saul to destroy ALL of the Amalekites. Men, women, children and livestock. We can never know for sure, but a theory is that these Amalekites were descended from the Nephilim, and therefore, not human. The book of Enoch details all of this and is an extra biblical text that was referenced in the Bible. Of course, Enoch was taken by God and was Noah's great grandfather. I'd say Enoch was a reliable witness.
Yes, I was shocked when I read the kill all men, women, children and livestock for the first time as an adult. Definitely not a topic that was ever mentioned or covered in my Sunday school classes***. I understand the context around the instructions but still a tough read.

A cover to cover read of the Bible is fascinating and action packed. It fills in a lot of gaps especially when you see a preacher using a verse out of context to support a sermon. Still, you'd think there would be more text around the Nephilim if they were such a threat.
 

HRMSU

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That makes absolutely no sense. You don’t spend billions to “toy” with other expensive weapons. You can’t even sneeze in the navy without tons of planning and paperwork and that’s where these videos come from, the navy.
One of the explanations that is used is the US government has a secret program that is tied to the hip of the defense industry. A black op skunk works where they've allowed access to the technology in exchange for "product development" and secrecy. Since it's technically an NGO they avoid the public records act. I'm not saying I believe it but that's the claim.
 

OG Goat Holder

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Older I get, the idea of aliens seems sillier and sillier. The idea that we are here defies the odds millions of times over, which all points to an intelligent designer i.e. God.
 

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One of the explanations that is used is the US government has a secret program that is tied to the hip of the defense industry. A black op skunk works where they've allowed access to the technology in exchange for "product development" and secrecy. Since it's technically an NGO they avoid the public records act. I'm not saying I believe it but that's the claim.
Yes this part is likely BUT no way they mess around like that around all their other “toys”

The legacy program is what you are referring to, but that gets tested out in the desert away from billions of dollars worth of ships and planes imo
 
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ckDOG

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Older I get, the idea of aliens seems sillier and sillier. The idea that we are here defies the odds millions of times over, which all points to an intelligent designer i.e. God.
I feel like an intelligent designer wouldn't have limited themself to just our tiny blue dot. There's more out there.
 
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ReverseCowbell

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I love these debates but the hard truth is none of our brains are equipped to even grasp the question of where we fit into the universe, much less answer it.

There are an estimated septillion (that’s 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000) potentially Earth-like planets in the observable universe. The observable universe has been around for 13.8 billion years.

Compress that into one calendar year and all of human history fits into the last ten seconds of December 31st. Planet Earth itself wouldn’t show up until after Labor Day. Dinosaurs didn’t show up until Christmas Day. Humans showed up ten seconds ago and we immediately started writing books explaining how everything works.

So our tiny blue ball that didn’t even show up until September is the whole point of everything, and a species that crawled out of the water ten seconds ago somehow has the capacity to explain it all? It’s preposterous.

Thats like picking up one grain of sand on a beach and declaring that this particular grain is the reason all the rest of the sand on planet Earth exists.

Hold whatever you believe. Just hold it a little more loosely than you probably do.
 
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ReverseCowbell

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Your comments, and comments from others in this thread, make it seem like you all only view possible extraterrestrial life as similar/same to humans and what we have on Earth.

Perhaps life was sparked and took hold differently.
Perhaps those conditions kept traditional warfare from taking hold.
Perhaps they have no legs and 3 arms.
Perhaps they stumbled into space travel through some fluke portal on their planet and they are real dummies.
My theory is that we are the Myrtle Beach of the cosmos and other species allow their drunk teenagers to visit us in Mom’s station wagon spaceship for Spring Break. Probably why they crash. We being visited by the Snookies of the universe just for kicks.
 
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OG Goat Holder

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I love these debates but the hard truth is none of our brains are equipped to even grasp the question of where we fit into the universe, much less answer it.

There are an estimated septillion (that’s 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000) potentially Earth-like planets in the observable universe. The observable universe has been around for 13.8 billion years.

Compress that into one calendar year and all of human history fits into the last ten seconds of December 31st. Planet Earth itself wouldn’t show up until after Labor Day. Dinosaurs didn’t show up until Christmas Day. Humans showed up ten seconds ago and we immediately started writing books explaining how everything works.

So our tiny blue ball that didn’t even show up until September is the whole point of everything, and a species that crawled out of the water ten seconds ago somehow has the capacity to explain it all? It’s preposterous.

Thats like picking up one grain of sand on a beach and declaring that this particular grain is the reason all the rest of the sand on planet Earth exists.

Hold whatever you believe. Just hold it a little more loosely than you probably do.
Actually not true. The chances that a place can support life is actually septillions of chances of not happening.
 

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I feel like an intelligent designer wouldn't have limited themself to just our tiny blue dot. There's more out there.
Simply put, I disagree. That’s the ingenious part of it.

There’s more out there, yes. It’s the realm of heaven and hell.

Give me some proof of them there UFOs and aliens.
 

ReverseCowbell

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Actually not true. The chances that a place can support life is actually septillions of chances of not happening.
“Actually” you’ve got the odds thing backwards.

The fact that life emerged here means the probability of life forming under the conditions of the known universe is non-zero. Even if the chance is vanishingly small, spread across a septillion planets and 13.8 billion years, it doesn’t remain unlikely. It approaches a near certainty that it happens more than once.

The main counter to this is the Rare Earth argument, that Earth’s exact conditions are too specific to repeat. But that assumes life has to look like us: liquid water, carbon, oxygen. That’s just one example, not a rule. We don’t know what other forms life might take under different conditions.

So the choice is pretty simple. Either life is so constrained that it happened once and never again (a single lightning strike across an infinite sky) or the universe can and will produce it in multiple places given opportunity and time.

We are proof that the latter is the only statistically defensible position.
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